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US States names and shapes: What would you change?

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Your opinion on US States?

1: They're just fine
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19%
2: Some changes could be made
91
52%
3: They're horrific
31
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4: No opinion/why is this even a matter of discussion?
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Total votes : 176

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Postby New haven america » Fri May 15, 2020 7:39 pm

Makersaulache wrote:
New haven america wrote:I give Long Island and its bits of NYC to New Jersey to further the NY/NJ fued.

Yes, little pockets of NJ territory desperately trying to defend themselves as angry New Yorkers take back their former territory. Wonderful

If you think them fighting over the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are funny, oh boy, then this'll be next level.

Can't wait.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri May 15, 2020 7:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I would rename Montana to West Dakota; and Minnesota to East Dakota

The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

Everything West of the Mississippi is "Dakota." Everything East is "Minnesota."
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 15, 2020 7:40 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

Everything West of the Mississippi is "Dakota." Everything East is "Minnesota."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 15, 2020 7:41 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I would rename Montana to West Dakota; and Minnesota to East Dakota

The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

We might as well just call the whole thing Ohio.
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Postby Atheris » Fri May 15, 2020 7:41 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

Everything West of the Mississippi is "Dakota." Everything East is "Minnesota."

Well, at least my friend (who was born in Minnesota) would be in the same state now...
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Fri May 15, 2020 7:43 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I would rename Montana to West Dakota; and Minnesota to East Dakota

The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.


Every state is just Dakota, but with cardinal directions in relation to the position of South Dakota.

Hey, you live in "California"? Ha, I think you mean "South West South West West West Dakota".

Huh, you live in "New York"? Bro, that's just "West West West South West West West North Dakota" to us.

What's that, chap? You live in "Britain"? Ugh, why can't you just say "West West West South West West West Overseas Dakota" properly?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 15, 2020 7:43 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

We might as well just call the whole thing Ohio.

Well, we ... no.
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Postby Atheris » Fri May 15, 2020 7:45 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.


Every state is just Dakota, but with cardinal directions in relation to the position of South Dakota.

Hey, you live in "California"? Ha, I think you mean "South West South West West West Dakota".

Huh, you live in "New York"? Bro, that's just "West West West South West West West North Dakota" to us.

What's that, chap? You live in "Britain"? Ugh, why can't you just say "West West West South West West West Overseas Dakota" properly?

"I live in Virginia."

"Don't you mean Southeast Southeast Southeast Southeast East East East East Dakota?"
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri May 15, 2020 7:46 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The Dakotas east of the Missouri are West Minnesota, whatever's left is just Dakota.

We might as well just call the whole thing Ohio.

That's what we'll call Puerto Rico.
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La Paz de Los Ricos
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Fri May 15, 2020 7:54 pm

Atheris wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
Every state is just Dakota, but with cardinal directions in relation to the position of South Dakota.

Hey, you live in "California"? Ha, I think you mean "South West South West West West Dakota".

Huh, you live in "New York"? Bro, that's just "West West West South West West West North Dakota" to us.

What's that, chap? You live in "Britain"? Ugh, why can't you just say "West West West South West West West Overseas Dakota" properly?

"I live in Virginia."

"Don't you mean Southeast Southeast Southeast Southeast East East East East Dakota?"


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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 15, 2020 8:00 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:We might as well just call the whole thing Ohio.

That's what we'll call Puerto Rico.

https://www.elyrics.net/read/w/west-sid ... yrics.html
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:That's what we'll call Puerto Rico.

https://www.elyrics.net/read/w/west-sid ... yrics.html

All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 15, 2020 8:35 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:

All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.

Boooo! And what is this?
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Postby Atheris » Fri May 15, 2020 8:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.

Boooo! And what is this?
Image

That's a building, duh. How did you get onto the mod team if you don't know what a building is? (I jest.)
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Postby Makersaulache » Fri May 15, 2020 8:40 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:

All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.

kell"s hitchen
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-Astoria
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Postby -Astoria » Fri May 15, 2020 9:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:Any state which has to distinguish itself from another by putting "North" or "South" or other cardinal direction in front of their name should either be renamed or destroyed.

Except West Virginia. We like you. You can stay.

West Virginia is unambiguously the worst of those states, tho

South Carolina called.

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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Fri May 15, 2020 9:06 pm

-Astoria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:West Virginia is unambiguously the worst of those states, tho

South Carolina called.


Yeah but they get the rare claim-to-fame that someone liked them enough to design a competent flag.
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Postby -Astoria » Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:Yeah but they get the rare claim-to-fame that someone liked them enough to design a competent flag.

:thonk: *y u forget Colorado*

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Postby Atheris » Fri May 15, 2020 10:44 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
-Astoria wrote:South Carolina called.


Yeah but they get the rare claim-to-fame that someone liked them enough to design a competent flag.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

No.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 16, 2020 7:21 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.

Boooo! And what is this?
Image

A hotel, across the street from the bus terminal. Let that sink in for a minute.

From the bus terminal
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--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 16, 2020 7:22 am

Makersaulache wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:All gone, all gentrified. It's not even hell's kitchen anymore.

kell"s hitchen

"midtown west"
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Aclion » Sat May 16, 2020 7:34 am

get rid of the Southwick Jog.

Also i'd make the shape of Tennessee more penisy for Mimal's beneft.
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Postby Asardia » Sat May 16, 2020 2:51 pm

Mzeusia wrote:Worried about border gore? Does the OP play HOI IV or any similar game?


Yes I have. I also played EU4 and Crusader Kings 2 where I see these memes often.

Neanderthaland wrote:Mississippi only borders the Mississippi river. And there are states that completely straddle it. One of those should be called "Mississippi" instead.

"Mississippi" can be renamed "East Louisiana" or "West Alabama." Whichever they prefer.


PLEASE DO THIS MISSISSIPPI

Bear Stearns wrote:I would have renamed most of the French, Spanish, and Indian names new territories to Anglo-Saxon names (whether an Anglicization of the old name or a new name entirely).


This. Or we could just give them English spelling. For example, Spanish uses words from Latin and other languages, but the words/names make sense because they follow Spanish rules.

Atheris wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Yes.

Time to make it uglier than Maryland's. How's this?

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If I could banish this image to Mars I would do so. But that discussion did get me thinking about state flags. Illinois, my home state, has the most random and boring flag in the Union
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Postby Asardia » Sat May 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:Better idea: Make every city Semi-Autonomous


Aren't the states and by extension, its cities already semi-autonomous?

Solomons Land wrote:This had probably been said already, but Virginia needs to change its name to East Virginia.


Eastginya would be the perfect name!!!
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Postby Grahnol » Sat May 16, 2020 5:26 pm

Every single US state west of MIMAL should have their borders redrawn because I hate how most borders west of MIMAL are all straight up just straight lines and it looks really ugly to me. Not exactly saying I would get rid of all of them but I would get rid of as many as it is sensible in a way that looks pretty on the map.

States east of MIMAL aren't spared though. Seriously what is up with Tennessee? Pennsylvania and Mississippi too what the hell? Virginia is somewhat passable but it needs some fixing and Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut should all be redrawn.

Some highlights for the places west are Colorado and Wyoming which are literally squares (curved squares with the curvature of the Earth), the Dakotas, Montana which looks like water spewing out of a thick pipe, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. California isn't so good either but at least it isn't as perfectly shaped as some of the other states.

All the names of the states are perfectly fine although this is coming from someone who doesn't have much knowledge in alternative state names.
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