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Postby Diahon » Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:It seems that OP is, as the cool kids say, an antisemite.


The Jews get treated like this boogeyman and all I can think is "jeez, what did San Lumen and Fahran ever do to you, you racist asshole?"


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed May 13, 2020 5:18 pm

Accelerationism is a form of Nazism, so keep that in mind when discussing the OP.

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Postby Kathol Rift » Wed May 13, 2020 5:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:I dunno, maybe the OP got rejected from art school.


Thanks for making me spit my tea. :lol2:

You’re welcome. I’ve been thinking it for a while now, finally saw an opportunity to post it.

In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Wed May 13, 2020 5:20 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Accelerationism is a form of Nazism, so keep that in mind when discussing the OP.

Objectively untrue. While right-wing accelerationism is definitely a thing, as evidenced by OP, the ideology itself is associated with the left and the right. Accelerationism itself is just "let's crash and burn the status quo".
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed May 13, 2020 5:21 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Negev Chan wrote:
What did he mean by this?


Well they would have avoided the virulent racism of the post antebellum US.

That and many African-Americans today really don't want to live here. Not most, but many.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed May 13, 2020 5:21 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thanks for making me spit my tea. :lol2:

You’re welcome. I’ve been thinking it for a while now, finally saw an opportunity to post it.

In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.


Your guess is as good as mine. I do think it’s just a silly skreed. Sadly though, some people actually think this way. And the fact that one needs to explain the obviousness of why racism is wrong is... well... wow.
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Postby Diahon » Wed May 13, 2020 5:21 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thanks for making me spit my tea. :lol2:

You’re welcome. I’ve been thinking it for a while now, finally saw an opportunity to post it.

In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 5:23 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Accelerationism is a form of Nazism, so keep that in mind when discussing the OP.


All this time I thought he was a socialist

Instead he may be a national socialist.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed May 13, 2020 5:24 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Accelerationism is a form of Nazism, so keep that in mind when discussing the OP.

Objectively untrue. While right-wing accelerationism is definitely a thing, as evidenced by OP, the ideology itself is associated with the left and the right. Accelerationism itself is just "let's crash and burn the status quo".

I'm talking about the Nazi version of it, which is what is getting all the attention these days, and arguably redefined the term.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 5:25 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Accelerationism is a form of Nazism, so keep that in mind when discussing the OP.

Objectively untrue. While right-wing accelerationism is definitely a thing, as evidenced by OP, the ideology itself is associated with the left and the right. Accelerationism itself is just "let's crash and burn the status quo".


For example, Thermodalia may or may not be an acceleratiomist and he is left wing.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed May 13, 2020 5:26 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.


It's simple, the fundamental assumption by the OP is that they will be one of the oppressors, not the oppressed.

Same with the various authoritarian types around here, they all assume they'll be the ones in power riding along in a ZiS limousine in Moscow with a spacious private flat in the House on the Embankment rather than living in a barracks and toiling in a steel mill cranking in the pollution-choked hellscape of Magnitogorsk, or more likely doing time in the GULAG because they pissed off the wrong person and got denounced to the NKVD.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 13, 2020 5:29 pm

If you between the two ends of the horseshoe things can get blurry and confusing. Like in a quantum soup.

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Postby Kathol Rift » Wed May 13, 2020 5:30 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.


It's simple, the fundamental assumption by the OP is that they will be one of the oppressors, not the oppressed. Same with the various authoritarian types around here, they all assume they'll be the ones in power.

Agreed. I doubt the OP would be touting the benefits of racism if they were part of one of the oppressed races in the system. But then again, with the type of person they seem to be, they would then just advocate for racism against the oppressor race instead of seeing that racism is wrong no matter what way you slice it.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed May 13, 2020 5:34 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:Agreed. I doubt the OP would be touting the benefits of racism if they were part of one of the oppressed races in the system. But then again, with the type of person they seem to be, they would then just advocate for racism against the oppressor race instead of seeing that racism is wrong no matter what way you slice it.


Sadly that is exactly what happened in Liberia...the Americo-Liberians were every bit as racist against the native Africans as the whites in America were against them, and in later years flat out sold them as slaves in everything but name (as slavery was expressly prohibited in the Liberian constitution) to colonial European powers. A similar situation happened in Haiti as well, with much more destructive and genocidal results but the mindset was the same.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 13, 2020 5:35 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence?


Hyperactive (or even manic) episode, lots of caffaine, or lots of some really strong other stuff.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 5:35 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:In all seriousness, why in the hell is this thread in existence? Under what possible circumstances do any supposed benefits of racism outweigh the suffering caused by it? I’ve seen photos of white racists in the south, after the civil war, after reconstruction, standing and posing over the body of a black man that was burned alive because he was falsely accused of being a rapist. The courthouse handed this man to the mob instead of giving him a fair trial, and let him get burned alive. In what world is the nonexistent benefits of racism worth that? None, that’s the answer.


It's simple, the fundamental assumption by the OP is that they will be one of the oppressors, not the oppressed.

Same with the various authoritarian types around here, they all assume they'll be the ones in power riding along in a ZiS limousine in Moscow with a spacious private flat in the House on the Embankment rather than living in a barracks and toiling in a steel mill cranking in the pollution-choked hellscape of Magnitogorsk, or more likely doing time in the GULAG because they pissed off the wrong person and got denounced to the NKVD.


It's like the ancoms who think they'll get their way and won't be shot dead after a communist revolution.
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Hmmm. I see
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Postby Vallermoore » Wed May 13, 2020 5:56 pm

Racism is bad because of
-The violence it causes-all the times people were injured or killed because of their skin colour.
-The economic waste
-The sheer nastiness of it.

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Postby Vetalia » Wed May 13, 2020 6:01 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:It's like the ancoms who think they'll get their way and won't be shot dead after a communist revolution.


Or the ancaps who believe they'll all be a captain of industry but will end up scrubbing the toilets.
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Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:<wall of text screed snipped for brevity>

Good lord, way to try and sneak an anti-Semitic screed under the radar.

Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:But why is it bad? Why is that bad?

This post makes it look like you're saying "the bullying, ostracizing, and downright abuse of people based on race is okay"... which is pretty much trolling.

Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Everyone and their mother was racist before 1960
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:white bydlo assaulting migrants
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote: Most people are retards.
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:The interests of an ethnic diaspora who have had to be on the lookout for the majority turning against them for 2000 years are not the same as the interests of the majority, who may or may not want to turn on the diaspora but who certainly shouldn't be defanged by manipulation of their economic, political and media apparatuses in a way that exclusively benefits the diaspora. Look at America today - people love the Jews mostly, but the Jews still feel the urge to aggressively agitate for increasingly making America even more of a hodge-podge country where they can more easily blend in and not get unified opposition from any angry majority than it already is. The Kochs and the Bezos's of America happily oblige, they wanted the labour anyway, but the agitation doesn't help and neither does putting a subversive diaspora in charge of a revolutionary state.

People like Trotsky were butchers lashing out against not just the Tsarist status quo but also the Christian, European gentiles that had lived under it.
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:I was referring to the Yamnaya and their immediate descendants, not their muttoid rape baby spawn a thousand years down the line that weren't even aware of them.

<snip>
Jews basically own the world now so I think it's fair to say they got more powerful.

<snip>
Today's "racists" are just civic nationalists with no desire to have an organic connection with their racial kindred. They worship a flag and a tax office and get butthurt when you file your tax returns in moon runes because it's bad for their zionist overlords.

<snip>

For someone so vehemently against capitalism you are a big fan of integrating brown people into capitalism. They clearly aren't agitating for gommunism now that you brought them to America to work for $2 an hour and live in a shoebox
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Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Goebbels was correct though, those fuckers have so much $$$$. They just use shit like central banks and rio tinto as fronts for their money making schemes.
Of course you can't have merchants without a marketplace
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:jew doesn't give you some fancy jew magic that makes you instantly have a million bajillion dollars.

Yeah and Goebbels was also correct about this one.
You don't change people's minds by calmly explaining what is the case to them, you do kind of need to give it a little bit of flair. Propaganda is whatever
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