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$52m for failing to protect moderators from 'horrors'

Postby Bombadil » Tue May 12, 2020 8:32 pm

Facebook has agreed to pay a settlement of $52m in a court case alleging the company failed to protect workers tasked with moderating disturbing content from the grave mental health impacts of the job.

As part of the settlement, which was announced Tuesday, moderators will get a minimum of $1,000 each from Facebook with the potential for additional compensation if they have been diagnosed with mental health disorders, including PTSD.


Don't know if Max has $52M but worth a shot Mods..

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Thanks for cleaning our boards without needing to inject bleach.
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Postby Audioslavia » Wed May 13, 2020 6:34 am

As horrifying as some of the dead-on-arrival takes on General are, I'm not sure they're $52m horrifying.

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 13, 2020 9:01 am

Pretty sure we see nothing as bad as what the mods on facebook see.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed May 13, 2020 9:12 am

Audioslavia wrote:As horrifying as some of the dead-on-arrival takes on General are, I'm not sure they're $52m horrifying.

You are the worst negotiator.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 13, 2020 10:53 am

So ... $52,000,000 and each Mod gets a grand ... they have 5,200 moderators? :blink:
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Postby Juristonia » Wed May 13, 2020 11:01 am

Farnhamia wrote:So ... $52,000,000 and each Mod gets a grand ... they have 5,200 moderators? :blink:

There is a lot of content to moderate on FB, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Specially if you want round the clock worldwide moderation.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed May 13, 2020 11:08 am

It'd be 52,000 mods if they all got 1,000. But it does say minimum of 1,000, so there's probably some variance in payout.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed May 13, 2020 11:11 am

Luna Amore wrote:It'd be 52,000 mods if they all got 1,000. But it does say minimum of 1,000, so there's probably some variance in payout.

11,000 eligible claimants according to the article, claims are subject to increase based on, for example, cases of PTSD or other harm.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed May 13, 2020 11:12 am

It might cover mods that have come and gone over the years, not just how many they have now.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed May 13, 2020 11:22 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:It'd be 52,000 mods if they all got 1,000. But it does say minimum of 1,000, so there's probably some variance in payout.

11,000 eligible claimants according to the article, claims are subject to increase based on, for example, cases of PTSD or other harm.

You expect me to read the article? Pashaw.

The most reasonable way to imagine it was divvied up is $1,000 to 10,999 mods and one (un)lucky mod got $41,001,000.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed May 13, 2020 12:02 pm

Imagine if the NS Staff got all this, either due to Max diverting it from Mark, or just pure random luck.

Counting just the active staff, I counted... 24-25? That's 2 mil for each of you.

You could establish your own island with that amount. :3



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Postby Green October Z » Wed May 13, 2020 12:10 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:So ... $52,000,000 and each Mod gets a grand ... they have 5,200 moderators? :blink:

There is a lot of content to moderate on FB, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Specially if you want round the clock worldwide moderation.


I also imagine that Facebook mods have to put with a lot worse content than you see here on NS.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed May 13, 2020 12:36 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Juristonia wrote:There is a lot of content to moderate on FB, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Specially if you want round the clock worldwide moderation.


I also imagine that Facebook mods have to put with a lot worse content than you see here on NS.

True that, we only occasionally get things like gore and porn images compared to the unending torrent of that crap. But then, we're only an itty bitty, teeny tiny fraction of Facebook's size too. :lol2:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 13, 2020 1:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Pretty sure we see nothing as bad as what the mods on facebook see.


Oh yea. I know one. He once described it as there are times you just want the ability to bleach your brain.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 13, 2020 1:28 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Pretty sure we see nothing as bad as what the mods on facebook see.


Oh yea. I know one. He once described it as there are times you just want the ability to bleach your brain.

Oh there are times that brain bleach is something I desperately wanted, I just doubt it is as common here as it is on facebook.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed May 13, 2020 3:21 pm

The stuff posted here isn't that bad considering. There has been some graphic imagery that has lingered for a while in full view before being thrown into the evidence locker, but I think most Moderators have seen far worse outwith NS.
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Reploid Productions wrote:...porn images...

Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed May 13, 2020 4:47 pm

Kyrusia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:...porn images...

Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]

There have been a few occasions where I have seen an image posted and wished I had access to the tools to yeet it into the sun, due to there being no Mods around at the time and yet there being users browsing the thread, likely being subjected to the same image but possibly being more sensitive to them than I am.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed May 13, 2020 5:51 pm

Kyrusia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:...porn images...

Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]

Makes me want to come out of retirement! Uhhh... I mean... yeah, that was terrible! :unsure:
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Postby Lamoni » Wed May 13, 2020 10:48 pm

You certainly see some weird/gory/NSFW stuff as an NS mod, but not nearly as much as Facebook mods do.

Kyrusia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:...porn images...

Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]


Could be worse Kyru, you could be having Vietnam Flashbacks.
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Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Kyrusia wrote:Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]

Makes me want to come out of retirement! Uhhh... I mean... yeah, that was terrible! :unsure:


If there are moth nipples, does that mean that there is also moth milk?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 14, 2020 9:51 am

Luna Amore wrote:It'd be 52,000 mods if they all got 1,000. But it does say minimum of 1,000, so there's probably some variance in payout.

*counts on fingers* Tsk.

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Farnhamia wrote:So ... $52,000,000 and each Mod gets a grand ... they have 5,200 moderators? :blink:

There is a lot of content to moderate on FB, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Specially if you want round the clock worldwide moderation.

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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu May 14, 2020 4:11 pm

Lamoni wrote:You certainly see some weird/gory/NSFW stuff as an NS mod, but not nearly as much as Facebook mods do.

Kyrusia wrote:Moth nipples... [flashback intensifies]


Could be worse Kyru, you could be having Vietnam Flashbacks.


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Have we all already forgotten about the Great Telegram RP Porn Republic of 2016? Some of that stuff sounded...uh... well, I won't rehash. Suffice to say Mr. Barry could consider -
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