by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:04 pm
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 8:35 pm
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:36 pm
Geneviev wrote:Abuse is always wrong, whether it's by a man, woman, or organization. I'd be surprised if people really disagree with that.
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 8:38 pm
Green October Z wrote:Geneviev wrote:Abuse is always wrong, whether it's by a man, woman, or organization. I'd be surprised if people really disagree with that.
Sadly, many people believe that some forms of abuse are more acceptable than others and may even write-off some as not being abuse at all because the genders of the perpetrator and the victim.
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:40 pm
Geneviev wrote:Green October Z wrote:
Sadly, many people believe that some forms of abuse are more acceptable than others and may even write-off some as not being abuse at all because the genders of the perpetrator and the victim.
I'm sure that people will misinterpret situations, but they can't possibly condone abuse.
by Tadreodal » Sun May 10, 2020 8:43 pm
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 8:43 pm
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:48 pm
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:48 pm
Tadreodal wrote:A lot of people say they have an unbiased view of it and would take action but I seriously doubt that everyone who claims this legitimately notices abuse from women in the same way they do abuse from men. I'd like to think I'm pretty good about being unbiased but even I probably am not completely even. It sucks that society kinda ingrains in us that women can't do that much damage -- sure, on average, a man getting hit by a woman is probably going to hurt less than vice versa, but the emotional damage is still there.
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 8:54 pm
Green October Z wrote:Geneviev wrote:I hate to be that person, but do you have a source? It seems impossible to believe that people can treat some abuse as being okay.
It's not that they consider it okay. Rather it is that they don't consider it abuse at all or lesser abuse. But, here are some sources for ya.
https://thriveglobal.com/stories/lets-d ... tic-abuse/
https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/male-a ... 3-Oct2017/
https://www.seacoastonline.com/news/201 ... le-victims
https://psychcentral.com/lib/men-as-vic ... tionships/
Plus personal experience.
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 8:54 pm
Geneviev wrote:Green October Z wrote:
It's not that they consider it okay. Rather it is that they don't consider it abuse at all or lesser abuse. But, here are some sources for ya.
https://thriveglobal.com/stories/lets-d ... tic-abuse/
https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/male-a ... 3-Oct2017/
https://www.seacoastonline.com/news/201 ... le-victims
https://psychcentral.com/lib/men-as-vic ... tionships/
Plus personal experience.
Well, that's terrible. You would think it would be more obvious to people.
by Final Universal Order » Sun May 10, 2020 8:56 pm
Green October Z wrote:Geneviev wrote:Abuse is always wrong, whether it's by a man, woman, or organization. I'd be surprised if people really disagree with that.
Sadly, many people believe that some forms of abuse are more acceptable than others and may even write-off some as not being abuse at all because the genders of the perpetrator and the victim.
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 8:57 pm
Final Universal Order wrote:Green October Z wrote:
Sadly, many people believe that some forms of abuse are more acceptable than others and may even write-off some as not being abuse at all because the genders of the perpetrator and the victim.
Sometimes religion will emotionally abuse people too. Jehovah’s Witness are an example.
Sometimes a corporation will abuse people who tinker with their products too much. Texas Instruments Education is an example.
Sometimes a government will abuse her citizens. Taxation is an example.
Abuse is always wrong. This goes for all perpetrators, male, female, religious, corporate, or governmental.
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 9:06 pm
Geneviev wrote:Final Universal Order wrote:
Sometimes religion will emotionally abuse people too. Jehovah’s Witness are an example.
Sometimes a corporation will abuse people who tinker with their products too much. Texas Instruments Education is an example.
Sometimes a government will abuse her citizens. Taxation is an example.
Abuse is always wrong. This goes for all perpetrators, male, female, religious, corporate, or governmental.
Yeah. I was thinking of organizations too, when I saw this thread.
by Rojava Free State » Sun May 10, 2020 9:09 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 9:11 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Abusive girlfriends and I go together like drugs and a ziploc bag.
by Geneviev » Sun May 10, 2020 9:12 pm
by Albrenia » Sun May 10, 2020 9:25 pm
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 9:29 pm
Albrenia wrote:I'll admit to probably being more permissive of female-on-male violence than the opposite, but only to a point. It's not right, but I can't really honestly say I'd treat a woman slapping a man in public the same as the opposite. Neither would make me think the slapped party 'deserved' it, but I'd be much more likely to jump to the slapped woman's defence than the man's.
I'm trying to be more egalitarian though. This is a nice reminder to keep it up.
by Albrenia » Sun May 10, 2020 9:31 pm
Green October Z wrote:Albrenia wrote:I'll admit to probably being more permissive of female-on-male violence than the opposite, but only to a point. It's not right, but I can't really honestly say I'd treat a woman slapping a man in public the same as the opposite. Neither would make me think the slapped party 'deserved' it, but I'd be much more likely to jump to the slapped woman's defence than the man's.
I'm trying to be more egalitarian though. This is a nice reminder to keep it up.
May I ask why you have that mindset?
by Stellar Colonies » Sun May 10, 2020 9:43 pm
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I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
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Add 1200 years.
by Green October Z » Sun May 10, 2020 9:50 pm
Albrenia wrote:Green October Z wrote:
May I ask why you have that mindset?
Upbringing, maybe? Might be I just consider men to be more dangerous than women in a general sense, so a hit from a man is more likely to cause serious harm or death than from a woman.
Use of weapons obviously changes this, and a woman going at a guy with a knife or gun would be the same as a guy doing the same.
by SangMar » Sun May 10, 2020 10:06 pm
Green October Z wrote:Albrenia wrote:
Upbringing, maybe? Might be I just consider men to be more dangerous than women in a general sense, so a hit from a man is more likely to cause serious harm or death than from a woman.
Use of weapons obviously changes this, and a woman going at a guy with a knife or gun would be the same as a guy doing the same.
Well, you have helped prove my point...
by Aeritai » Sun May 10, 2020 10:15 pm
by Albrenia » Sun May 10, 2020 10:16 pm
Green October Z wrote:Albrenia wrote:
Upbringing, maybe? Might be I just consider men to be more dangerous than women in a general sense, so a hit from a man is more likely to cause serious harm or death than from a woman.
Use of weapons obviously changes this, and a woman going at a guy with a knife or gun would be the same as a guy doing the same.
Well, you have helped prove my point...
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