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Postby Telconi » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:57 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It's like people aren't satisfied with her losing twice, they also want her to die in prison then take a dump in her coffin too. What happened to "Get Over It" or does that only apply to Democrats?


I didn't know that Trumpsters being petty bitches made Hillary Clinton an honorable person and not a snake.


What makes you think Gauth supports honorable people? His entire political view is one of hatred and malice.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 am

Telconi wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I didn't know that Trumpsters being petty bitches made Hillary Clinton an honorable person and not a snake.


What makes you think Gauth supports honorable people? His entire political view is one of hatred and malice.


Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.
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Postby Page » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:59 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:At least she never said to inject bleach into people.


Low bar. Reeeaaallly low bar.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:59 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Eh fair enough.

I'm not saying she would have been a good president, she would have been shit and an embarrassment to the Democratic party.

Still it's hard of me to think she would fuck up as bad as Trump is.

Again tho, 2016 was trash year and both candidates where garbage.


Even if she didn't fuck up like trump, honestly what kind of comparison is it? Anyone should be able to be better than trump, the bar is set low there.


Again yeah but I think with her in charge things would be slightly less horrifying right now.

Like instead of being near apocalyptic right now it would only be a major catastrophe instead.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:00 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What makes you think Gauth supports honorable people? His entire political view is one of hatred and malice.


Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.

So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:01 am

Page wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:At least she never said to inject bleach into people.


Low bar. Reeeaaallly low bar.

Trump is the best at setting low bars. The best.

No one can set a tremendous low bar like Donald Trump.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:01 am

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.

So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?


I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:02 am

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.

So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?


Ah yes, the old "if you don't like Hillary, you must love Trump" dichotomy.

Newsflash Gauth, I despise Trump. But in Hillary all I see is the same old shit with a more polished cover. What, you think a woman who threatens sexual abuse victims is better than a sexual abuser?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Page wrote:
Low bar. Reeeaaallly low bar.

Trump is the best at setting low bars. The best.

No one can set a tremendous low bar like Donald Trump.

Trump sinks bars like icebergs sink cruise ships.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?


I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.


Youre desperate if you think the only reason I don't like Hillary is her emails.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Page » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:02 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What makes you think Gauth supports honorable people? His entire political view is one of hatred and malice.


Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.


Have some theoretical NationStates Reddit gold for that post.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:03 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.


Youre desperate if you think the only reason I don't like Hillary is her emails.


You get used to it eventually.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:04 am

Page wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Hillary supporters don't even realize the contradiction their existence is.

Imagine criticizing trump for being a racist while supporting a woman who's Warhawk policies killed thousands of black and brown people. I didn't know offensive words were worse than mass murder collateral damage.


Have some theoretical NationStates Reddit gold for that post.


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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:06 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?


Ah yes, the old "if you don't like Hillary, you must love Trump" dichotomy.

Newsflash Gauth, I despise Trump. But in Hillary all I see is the same old shit with a more polished cover. What, you think a woman who threatens sexual abuse victims is better than a sexual abuser?

With Clinton, the Senate GOP would have been looking to hobble or remove her at every opportunity as opposed to rubber stamp Trump's impulse engine bursts so your nightmare scenario of her passing bad laws would have been a spook story at best, and once in office she could have been replaced by the VP or Speaker. Compare the hawkish Nonocracy to the current Yes Dear permissiveness given to Trump.
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Postby Page » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So Trump and the pandemic is much better than Clinton then?


I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.


She wanted to try a no-fly zone in Syria while Russia was intervening there. That could have gone one of two ways:

1) World War 3

2) Russia calls her bluff and she backs down.

I will admit that #2 is the more probable outcome though.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:08 am

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Ah yes, the old "if you don't like Hillary, you must love Trump" dichotomy.

Newsflash Gauth, I despise Trump. But in Hillary all I see is the same old shit with a more polished cover. What, you think a woman who threatens sexual abuse victims is better than a sexual abuser?

With Clinton, the Senate GOP would have been looking to hobble or remove her at every opportunity as opposed to rubber stamp Trump's impulse engine bursts so your nightmare scenario of her passing bad laws would have been a spook story at best, and once in office she could have been replaced by the VP or Speaker. Compare the hawkish Nonocracy to the current Yes Dear permissiveness given to Trump.


Upholding the GOP controlled Senate as a moral paragon to own the cons.

Stay classy my dude.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:09 am

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Ah yes, the old "if you don't like Hillary, you must love Trump" dichotomy.

Newsflash Gauth, I despise Trump. But in Hillary all I see is the same old shit with a more polished cover. What, you think a woman who threatens sexual abuse victims is better than a sexual abuser?

With Clinton, the Senate GOP would have been looking to hobble or remove her at every opportunity as opposed to rubber stamp Trump's impulse engine bursts so your nightmare scenario of her passing bad laws would have been a spook story at best, and once in office she could have been replaced by the VP or Speaker. Compare the hawkish Nonocracy to the current Yes Dear permissiveness given to Trump.


Ah yes, Russia is the boogeyman. We gotta fight them at every turn even if innocent people die in droves. Once again, refrain from criticizing trump for his bigotry when your preferred candidate would cause mass death and suffering across the global south.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:26 am

Page wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.


She wanted to try a no-fly zone in Syria while Russia was intervening there. That could have gone one of two ways:

1) World War 3

2) Russia calls her bluff and she backs down.

I will admit that #2 is the more probable outcome though.


Oh right, I forgot we're supposed to ignore her saying that this would involve working with rather than against Russia because narratives.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:With Clinton, the Senate GOP would have been looking to hobble or remove her at every opportunity as opposed to rubber stamp Trump's impulse engine bursts so your nightmare scenario of her passing bad laws would have been a spook story at best, and once in office she could have been replaced by the VP or Speaker. Compare the hawkish Nonocracy to the current Yes Dear permissiveness given to Trump.


Ah yes, Russia is the boogeyman. We gotta fight them at every turn even if innocent people die in droves. Once again, refrain from criticizing trump for his bigotry when your preferred candidate would cause mass death and suffering across the global south.


Appealing to worse problems to deflect Trump criticism. Classic Hillary Card behaviour.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 am

Vassenor wrote:
Page wrote:
She wanted to try a no-fly zone in Syria while Russia was intervening there. That could have gone one of two ways:

1) World War 3

2) Russia calls her bluff and she backs down.

I will admit that #2 is the more probable outcome though.


Oh right, I forgot we're supposed to ignore her saying that this would involve working with rather than against Russia because narratives.


Post proof. Infact, you can also post proof the Russians would have worked with the idea. Go ahead vass, give us some sources as you always demand of us.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh right, I forgot we're supposed to ignore her saying that this would involve working with rather than against Russia because narratives.


Post proof. Infact, you can also post proof the Russians would have worked with the idea. Go ahead vass, give us some sources as you always demand of us.

Something like this?

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Vassenor wrote:
I mean, the emails though. And the WW3 that totally would've happened because reasons.


She wanted to try a no-fly zone in Syria while Russia was intervening there. That could have gone one of two ways:

1) World War 3

2) Russia calls her bluff and she backs down.

I will admit that #2 is the more probable outcome though.

You make a lot of assumptions, though. Like, that she would not have cooperated with Russia to establish the zone, which was exactly what she wanted to do. Saying what you said is comperable to her saying "I'm going to ring at Jenny's house, see if she's in" and everyone responding with "Why are you going to break into her house?"
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Postby Telconi » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Ah yes, Russia is the boogeyman. We gotta fight them at every turn even if innocent people die in droves. Once again, refrain from criticizing trump for his bigotry when your preferred candidate would cause mass death and suffering across the global south.


Appealing to worse problems to deflect Trump criticism. Classic Hillary Card behaviour.


When your offered solution is the worse problem, it's entirely appropriate.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:52 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
If not even Hitler told people to inject disinfectant, and Trump did, then logically...


You did not just claim that trump is worse than a genocidal dictator. See, I thought your support for Hillary was ridiculous but it still is within the realm of reality. But trump being worse than Hitler? Forget about visiting Libya, let's go take a trip to visit some holocaust survivors instead.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:54 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
If not even Hitler told people to inject disinfectant, and Trump did, then logically...


You did not just claim that trump is worse than a genocidal dictator. See, I thought your support for Hillary was ridiculous but it still is within the realm of reality. But trump being worse than Hitler? Forget about visiting Libya, let's go take a trip to visit some holocaust survivors instead.


You mean like the holocaust survivors who keep calling out the conditions in Trump's concentration camps?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:58 am

Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
You did not just claim that trump is worse than a genocidal dictator. See, I thought your support for Hillary was ridiculous but it still is within the realm of reality. But trump being worse than Hitler? Forget about visiting Libya, let's go take a trip to visit some holocaust survivors instead.


You mean like the holocaust survivors who keep calling out the conditions in Trump's concentration camps?

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