by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:44 am
by Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:53 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:57 am
Rojava Free State wrote:James Buchanan sucked shit at being a president. If you are ever upset that Trump is the president, just know that it could be alot worse. If you ever say "man I'm so stupid," nah man. James Buchanan was stupid. 0/10, fuck Buchanan, may he burn in hell for being such a trash president.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:59 am
Aeritai wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:James Buchanan sucked shit at being a president. If you are ever upset that Trump is the president, just know that it could be alot worse. If you ever say "man I'm so stupid," nah man. James Buchanan was stupid. 0/10, fuck Buchanan, may he burn in hell for being such a trash president.
After looking him up I can see why, who do you consider to be the best president and why?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:00 am
by Arcturus Novus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:00 am
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Neanderthaland » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:01 am
by Nakena » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:02 am
by Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:04 am
Aeritai wrote:Ever since the United States of America has formed we had many presidents come and go, some of them were the best and some were the worst. And since NSG is home to some interesting opinions, I like to ask: Who do you consider to be the best and worst U.S. President in history and explain why. Which means we will not include recent Presidents like Obama and Trump, the list of Presidents will be George Washington-George W. Bush. However if you want to choose Obama and Trump you can if you want to. With that out of the way let us began the discussion and see who is the best or worst President in American history.
My Opinion
Best
George Washington- He led the young United States against the British in the American Revolutionary War and would shape how Presidents would run the nation in the future. And he wanted the United States to remain neutral in any conflicts.
Abraham Lincoln- He tried his best to hold the nation together while also dealing with the Civil War and he freed the African-Americans from slavery.
Worst
Andrew Jackson- His Indian Removal Act caused the deaths of many Native Americans and forced them to move from their original homes. So yeah I'm not fond of him for killing innocent Native Americans.
by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:05 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Aeritai wrote:
After looking him up I can see why, who do you consider to be the best president and why?
The best president was George Washington. Not only was he a war hero, but he was probably one of the most humble men in history. He asked his people to only refer to him as "Mr. President" and not "your highness" or "your excellency," and when he could have run for a third time, he decided not to, and instead passed the torch to new blood.
by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:08 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Aeritai wrote:Ever since the United States of America has formed we had many presidents come and go, some of them were the best and some were the worst. And since NSG is home to some interesting opinions, I like to ask: Who do you consider to be the best and worst U.S. President in history and explain why. Which means we will not include recent Presidents like Obama and Trump, the list of Presidents will be George Washington-George W. Bush. However if you want to choose Obama and Trump you can if you want to. With that out of the way let us began the discussion and see who is the best or worst President in American history.
My Opinion
Best
George Washington- He led the young United States against the British in the American Revolutionary War and would shape how Presidents would run the nation in the future. And he wanted the United States to remain neutral in any conflicts.
Abraham Lincoln- He tried his best to hold the nation together while also dealing with the Civil War and he freed the African-Americans from slavery.
Worst
Andrew Jackson- His Indian Removal Act caused the deaths of many Native Americans and forced them to move from their original homes. So yeah I'm not fond of him for killing innocent Native Americans.
Without Jackson people without property dont get the vote. No American president treated the native population well, with the possible exception of Jefferson Davis.
by Arcturus Novus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:09 am
Aeritai wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
The best president was George Washington. Not only was he a war hero, but he was probably one of the most humble men in history. He asked his people to only refer to him as "Mr. President" and not "your highness" or "your excellency," and when he could have run for a third time, he decided not to, and instead passed the torch to new blood.
If only modern Presidents acted like Washington being humble and respectful. He would be disappointed of what the United Statea has become.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:11 am
by Agarntrop » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:11 am
Arcturus Novus wrote:Aeritai wrote:
If only modern Presidents acted like Washington being humble and respectful. He would be disappointed of what the United Statea has become.
The advent of the "TV president", combined with the apotheosis of the American presidency, kind of makes a humble, respectful president impossible.
by Italios » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:12 am
by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:14 am
Italios wrote:"best" - ulysses s. grant, rutherford b. hayes, warren harding, franklin roosevelt (very iffy)
worst - all the others
op definitely got assigned a "rank the presidents" assignment for online school lol
by Neanderthaland » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:14 am
Arcturus Novus wrote:Aeritai wrote:
If only modern Presidents acted like Washington being humble and respectful. He would be disappointed of what the United Statea has become.
The advent of the "TV president", combined with the apotheosis of the American presidency, kind of makes a humble, respectful president impossible.
by Sail Nation » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:15 am
by Arcturus Novus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:16 am
Italios wrote:"best" - ulysses s. grant, rutherford b. hayes, warren harding, franklin roosevelt (very iffy)
worst - all the others
op definitely got assigned a "rank the presidents" assignment for online school lol
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:17 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Aeritai wrote:
After looking him up I can see why, who do you consider to be the best president and why?
The best president was George Washington. Not only was he a war hero, but he was probably one of the most humble men in history. He asked his people to only refer to him as "Mr. President" and not "your highness" or "your excellency," and when he could have run for a third time, he decided not to, and instead passed the torch to new blood.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:17 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Aeritai wrote:Ever since the United States of America has formed we had many presidents come and go, some of them were the best and some were the worst. And since NSG is home to some interesting opinions, I like to ask: Who do you consider to be the best and worst U.S. President in history and explain why. Which means we will not include recent Presidents like Obama and Trump, the list of Presidents will be George Washington-George W. Bush. However if you want to choose Obama and Trump you can if you want to. With that out of the way let us began the discussion and see who is the best or worst President in American history.
My Opinion
Best
George Washington- He led the young United States against the British in the American Revolutionary War and would shape how Presidents would run the nation in the future. And he wanted the United States to remain neutral in any conflicts.
Abraham Lincoln- He tried his best to hold the nation together while also dealing with the Civil War and he freed the African-Americans from slavery.
Worst
Andrew Jackson- His Indian Removal Act caused the deaths of many Native Americans and forced them to move from their original homes. So yeah I'm not fond of him for killing innocent Native Americans.
Without Jackson people without property dont get the vote. No American president treated the native population well, with the possible exception of Jefferson Davis.
by Aeritai » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:18 am
Sail Nation wrote:Can I suggest that Roosevelt was the best president- He led USA out of the great depression, after nearly 4 years of Hoover doing little to help. He set up 'Fireside Chats' to explain how and what he was doing to the American people. He set up 'Alphabet Agencies' to give people jobs and generally rebuild the economy. He lead America through WW2 (even though they joined late). What I consider most important is that he led even though he was disabled- something that wouldn't happen then and rarely now. He died while he was in office- a sign that he was committed to his job even when he was of very ill health; he was in a deteriorating condition. I am all for representation of disabled people in government (physical or hidden), as they see the world from a different perspective as they have to live their lives differently to most. He was overall, a great president.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:19 am
Italios wrote:"best" - ulysses s. grant, rutherford b. hayes, warren harding, franklin roosevelt (very iffy)
worst - all the others
op definitely got assigned a "rank the presidents" assignment for online school lol
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:20 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The best president will be the president who withdraws American soldiers from the Middle East and does not support terrorism.
by Italios » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:21 am
Arcturus Novus wrote:Italios wrote:"best" - ulysses s. grant, rutherford b. hayes, warren harding, franklin roosevelt (very iffy)
worst - all the others
op definitely got assigned a "rank the presidents" assignment for online school lol
Not sure if I'd rank the "let's send the Japanese-Americans to internment camps" guy as one of the best, personally. Maybe like, top 10, but still.Agarntrop wrote:Obama was quite humble i thought. mind you everyone looks fucking huble compared to donald t.
Obama had a very carefully-groomed media image to make himself appear approachable and relatable, all while granting massive corporate bailouts and carpet-bombing villages and weddings in the Middle East.
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