[PASSED] Provisional Rule in Wartime

[Wallenburg]

"Exactly what do you mean by "frustrate" here? Laws are not entities that could feel frustration."

Bell taps on a touchscreen to bring up a projector and types 'frustrate' into a search bar.

Dictionary
frus·trate
/ˈfrəstrāt/
verb
verb: frustrate; 3rd person present: frustrates; past tense: frustrated; past participle: frustrated; gerund or present participle: frustrating
prevent (a plan or attempted action) from progressing, succeeding, or being fulfilled.
"his attempt to frustrate the merger"

"While this is all easily understood, I do have a lingering concern that this terminology could have...unforeseen consequences."

[Sciongrad]

Bell taps on a touchscreen to bring up a projector and types 'frustrate' into a search bar.

Dictionary
frus·trate
/ˈfrəstrāt/
verb
verb: frustrate; 3rd person present: frustrates; past tense: frustrated; past participle: frustrated; gerund or present participle: frustrating
prevent (a plan or attempted action) from progressing, succeeding, or being fulfilled.
"his attempt to frustrate the merger"

"While this is all easily understood, I do have a lingering concern that this terminology could have...unforeseen consequences."

Such as?

[Tinhampton]

Support. Clause 8 gives me an excuse to repeal NAPA on the grounds that there are no more nukes to keep out of the wrong hands

[The New Sicilian State]

Support. Clause 8 gives me an excuse to repeal NAPA on the grounds that there are no more nukes to keep out of the wrong hands

“But if this is repealed and all the nukes un-explode, wouldn’t that be an issue?”

[Separatist Peoples]

Support. Clause 8 gives me an excuse to repeal NAPA on the grounds that there are no more nukes to keep out of the wrong hands

“But if this is repealed and all the nukes un-explode, wouldn’t that be an issue?”

"Sounds like an excellent excuse to repeal Repeal GAR#10."

[Separatist Peoples]

Bump

[Honeydewistania]

Remove all the filler that is Clauses 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7, then we can support.

-Jake Potter
Local Vagabond that Wandered into HQ

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: Edits made

[Separatist Peoples]

Bump

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: since PoWO got feedback and this didn't, this gets a promotion on my submission queue. I intend to submit Thursday or Friday. Possibly with another proposal.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: I submitted this, as there has been no feedback. I assume that means there are no flaws.

[Tinhampton]

Something's missing here

[Separatist Peoples]

Something's missing here

"Not missing. Invisible."

[Merni]

OOC

5. The International Humanitarian Aid Coordination Committee will:

1. Liaise with both military and civilian authorities within an occupied territory;
2. Independently inspect occupying operations;
   
   
3. Provide guidance, technical expertise, and aid for occupied civilian populations; and
   
   
4. Report violations directly to the World Assembly Compliance Commission.

6. Member states must consider any serious or systematic breach of § 5, either intentionally, through gross negligence, or nonfeasance, a war crime and prosecute violators accordingly.


7. Member states need not treat isolated and de minimis violations as war crimes, provided they are reasonably redressed and do not continue.

So... member states must treat violations by the IHACC as war crimes? How would the IHACC even commit violations? Clause 6 evidently meant to refer to clause 4.

Also:

Rejecting military success and profiteering as the penultimate goals of an occupation;

Penultimate = second to last. Ultimate = last.
Edit: OOC

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC

5. The International Humanitarian Aid Coordination Committee will:

1. Liaise with both military and civilian authorities within an occupied territory;
2. Independently inspect occupying operations;
   
   
3. Provide guidance, technical expertise, and aid for occupied civilian populations; and
   
   
4. Report violations directly to the World Assembly Compliance Commission.

6. Member states must consider any serious or systematic breach of § 5, either intentionally, through gross negligence, or nonfeasance, a war crime and prosecute violators accordingly.


7. Member states need not treat isolated and de minimis violations as war crimes, provided they are reasonably redressed and do not continue.

So... member states must treat violations by the IHACC as war crimes? How would the IHACC even commit violations? Clause 6 evidently meant to refer to clause 4.

Also:

Rejecting military success and profiteering as the penultimate goals of an occupation;

Penultimate = second to last. Ultimate = last.
Edit: OOC

Always good to have these noted after it reaches quorum.

[Tinhampton]

OOC

So... member states must treat violations by the IHACC as war crimes? How would the IHACC even commit violations? Clause 6 evidently meant to refer to clause 4.

Also:

Penultimate = second to last. Ultimate = last.
Edit: OOC

Always good to have these noted after it reaches quorum.

To be fair, I pointed the Article 6 fuckup out on #snakes-on-a-wa two days ago (IRL CDSP time), lol

[Merni]

OOC

So... member states must treat violations by the IHACC as war crimes? How would the IHACC even commit violations? Clause 6 evidently meant to refer to clause 4.

Also:

Penultimate = second to last. Ultimate = last.
Edit: OOC

Always good to have these noted after it reaches quorum.

You're lucky it hadn't reached vote yet. "Perfect draft", much?

[Separatist Peoples]

Always good to have these noted after it reaches quorum.

To be fair, I pointed the Article 6 fuckup out on #snakes-on-a-wa two days ago (IRL CDSP time), lol

Ooc not really. Pointing it out is more than a vauge comment.

Always good to have these noted after it reaches quorum.

You're lucky it hadn't reached vote yet. "Perfect draft", much?

Ooc: I think you may have missed the tongue in cheek tone I used. That was in response to absolutely no comments. I was hoping it would goad somebody into finding a flaw!

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: correction made. Now, is there something problematic hiding in this draft still? If I submit it, will somebody note it before I campaign or after?

[The New Nordic Union]

Ooc: correction made. Now, is there something problematic hiding in this draft still? If I submit it, will somebody note it before I campaign or after?

OOC: The most miniscule of cosmetic corrections, but “Military efforts’ should have either double or single quotes, not the mix.

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: correction made. Now, is there something problematic hiding in this draft still? If I submit it, will somebody note it before I campaign or after?

OOC: The most miniscule of cosmetic corrections, but “Military efforts’ should have either double or single quotes, not the mix.

Ooc: I am all about miniscule corrections! Make ten thousand of them. Thank you for posting them prior to submission!

[Kenmoria]

“As this has reached vote, I will reiterate my support for this well-crafted proposal.”

(OOC: Ah, wait - I have a minuscule correction! Clause 8 is written in a different style to all the others, and is the only clause not to form a proper sentence. On the other hand, that does give everyone a plausible reason to not detonate nuclear warheads, so maybe it was intentional.)

[Separatist Peoples]

“As this has reached vote, I will reiterate my support for this well-crafted proposal.”

(OOC: Ah, wait - I have a minuscule correction! Clause 8 is written in a different style to all the others, and is the only clause not to form a proper sentence. On the other hand, that does give everyone a plausible reason to not detonate nuclear warheads, so maybe it was intentional.)

OOC: You should compare the draft to the submitted proposal.

[Take One]

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[Take One]

Hello,

People's Republic of Take One is a newly-formed nation and we recently became a member state of General Assembly, so please accept our regret for late deliberation of this proposal since it has already entered voting. We found some concerns with the resolution, but are not sure of their weight and do not want to hold up crucial resolution on technicalities. Nevertheless, in the interest of due diligence, we seek input from other member states on whether these are worthy of a revision at this late stage.

3.c.iii. The service does not, in character or purpose, further military efforts; and

This appears to be in contradiction of 3.e and 3.f which appear to permit recruitment of volunteers into military service, and utilization of captured infrastructure for military efforts. If we surmise from 3.f that military occupation following armed conflict could potentially run into any recurrent instances of armed conflict in its attempt to pacify the region, then military service would require military efforts outside of administration and policing, and at that time, it shall be challenging for a military occupancy to not engage its military service volunteers in active military efforts.

3.d.ii. Do not further military efforts.

The same argument holds for this clause as well, the object of concern being commodity resources instead of volunteer recruits.

4.d. Restore and enforce public order and safety while respecting the laws of occupied land, to the extent that it does not frustrate World Assembly law.

This provision should also allow provisions for respecting the laws of occupied land, to the extent that it does not frustrate the laws of the occupying territory either. For eg -- a fair number of nations have laws more conservative or restrictive of individual freedom than do the majority members of World Assembly Law. The laws of such occupied nations could curtail the freedom of occupying military forces afforded to them in their own nation on home territory.

4.e. Narrowly tailor any restriction of individual freedoms;

This statement could also use qualifications to ensure that these freedoms should not impinge upon civic rights and liberties of other individuals. The laws an occupied territory arrives at upon attaining self-sufficiency of administration are it's own (and perhaps qualified by World Assembly Law), but until such time, occupying forces should be allowed to curtail inappropriate reaches of individual freedom that their own law might forbid.

We hope to get our vote in before the polling window ends, but hope our concerns are assuaged in some capacity before we need to make a call.