Quite certain.
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by Bienenhalde » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
by LRON » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Purple Rats wrote:LRON wrote:I do not understand the contemporary liberal position that because some people break the law that means that criminal actions ought to be legalised.
It's not about law and law breaking. It's more about safety. I am not saying that everything should be legal, because people break law... what?
But yes, trafficking will still be a problem.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Fahran wrote:Shall I start the next iteration or would someone else like to take the helm?
by Italios » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Purple Rats wrote:Diopolis wrote:While I am not pro-prostitution, the tendency to use slaves for the dirty work is the only reason that comes to mind that it's any worse than regular fornication. And we have plenty of people who admit to that.
It's difficult topic, because if prostitution is illegal, then it does not mean that people don't do it. If it would be legal, but highly regulated, it's not gonna end illegal prostitution, but it could minimize it.
It's like banning drugs is not gonna save you from drug addicts from dying.
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Fahran wrote:Shall I start the next iteration or would someone else like to take the helm?
by Italios » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:08 pm
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Italios wrote:legalizing, or even just decriminalizing sex work increases sex trafficking. read this article for more information. here's the article it cites. saying that something is always going to happen regardless of its legality is a terrible argument. by that metric no action should be illegal because the laws against that action can always be violated. the point of keeping sex work illegal to ensure that people responsible for coerced or forced sex work can always be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because they're taking away an individual's agency to their own body.
by Bienenhalde » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:10 pm
by Purple Rats » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:11 pm
Italios wrote:that statement is just not supported by fact. it's already been posted in this thread that among western nations with adequate social services for sex workers, with regulatory measures in place, legalizing, or even just decriminalizing sex work increases sex trafficking. read this article for more information. here's the article it cites. saying that something is always going to happen regardless of its legality is a terrible argument. by that metric no action should be illegal because the laws against that action can always be violated. the point of keeping sex work illegal to ensure that people responsible for coerced or forced sex work can always be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because they're taking away an individual's agency to their own body.
by LRON » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm
by Diopolis » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm
Purple Rats wrote:Italios wrote:that statement is just not supported by fact. it's already been posted in this thread that among western nations with adequate social services for sex workers, with regulatory measures in place, legalizing, or even just decriminalizing sex work increases sex trafficking. read this article for more information. here's the article it cites. saying that something is always going to happen regardless of its legality is a terrible argument. by that metric no action should be illegal because the laws against that action can always be violated. the point of keeping sex work illegal to ensure that people responsible for coerced or forced sex work can always be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because they're taking away an individual's agency to their own body.
I already agreed that trafficking will still be a problem, I am not denying it.
by Italios » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm
Purple Rats wrote:Italios wrote:that statement is just not supported by fact. it's already been posted in this thread that among western nations with adequate social services for sex workers, with regulatory measures in place, legalizing, or even just decriminalizing sex work increases sex trafficking. read this article for more information. here's the article it cites. saying that something is always going to happen regardless of its legality is a terrible argument. by that metric no action should be illegal because the laws against that action can always be violated. the point of keeping sex work illegal to ensure that people responsible for coerced or forced sex work can always be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because they're taking away an individual's agency to their own body.
I already agreed that trafficking will still be a problem, I am not denying it.
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:13 pm
LRON wrote:You know there was a time where if you wanted to lop the old diddly doo ha off, you would be considered particularly insane. Or a devout Methodist with a penchant for killing actors turned assassins. Mhm hm.
by Diopolis » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:13 pm
LRON wrote:You know there was a time where if you wanted to lop the old diddly doo ha off, you would be considered particularly insane.
Or a devout Methodist with a penchant for killing actors turned assassins. Mhm hm.
by Nakena » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:16 pm
by Hanafuridake » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:17 pm
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:17 pm
by Cekoviu » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:17 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Im pro death penalty for drug trafficking but I like doing drugs anyway rip
Sometimes internal consistency is just a spook. You don't need to stand for everything. You only need to stand for one thing.
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:18 pm
The most dangerous drug I ever took is the one that's legal and consumed by 90% of the population and that's honestly true. Cocaine is not that bad for you. That doesn't mean you should be able to buy it in the supermarket
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:19 pm
by Purple Rats » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:19 pm
Italios wrote:you literally just said that legalizing sex work decreases sex trafficking, i'm saying that's a false narrative that's used to defend a position that actually sees more men, women and children involved in sexual slavery
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