by Sedgistan » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:32 am
by Morover » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:51 am
by Zeritae » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm
Zurkerx wrote:Agarntrop wrote:snip
One already exists: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=484632&start=25
And seeing we're over the page limit, I #ilock now. We can't let the umm, super virus get out now.
by Valentine Z » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:59 pm
♪ If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down ! ♪
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
(✿◠‿◠) ☆ \(^_^)/ ☆
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Selanese Empire wrote:Not many would notice except for the little cult surrounding him.
[Sig] "Far-left neo-Valentinist party “Democratic” finally banned after investigations find that it sponsored anti-Selanese movements overseas."
by Zeritae » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:00 pm
Valentine Z wrote:I'm in full support for this! N-Day, Z-Day, Gen Sec, whatever else... I think there are always nations that shine on these limited-time events!
Zurkerx wrote:Agarntrop wrote:snip
One already exists: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=484632&start=25
And seeing we're over the page limit, I #ilock now. We can't let the umm, super virus get out now.
by Valentine Z » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:02 pm
♪ If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down ! ♪
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
(✿◠‿◠) ☆ \(^_^)/ ☆
♡ Issues Thread ♡ Photography Stuff ♡ Project: Save F7. ♡ Stats Analysis ♡
♡ The Sixty! ♡ Valentian Stories! ♡ Gwen's Adventures! ♡
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.
Selanese Empire wrote:Not many would notice except for the little cult surrounding him.
[Sig] "Far-left neo-Valentinist party “Democratic” finally banned after investigations find that it sponsored anti-Selanese movements overseas."
by Destructive Government Economic System » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:09 pm
Keshiland literally wrote:I would give it a no. A country that lies about how free, or how great, or how humanitarian it is can never be developed. Example, NK lies and says they are democratic and are not, the US lies and says we are free yet we incarcerate millions for a medical plant. See we are basically a larger more populated North Korea.
by Valentine Z » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:15 pm
♪ If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down ! ♪
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
(✿◠‿◠) ☆ \(^_^)/ ☆
♡ Issues Thread ♡ Photography Stuff ♡ Project: Save F7. ♡ Stats Analysis ♡
♡ The Sixty! ♡ Valentian Stories! ♡ Gwen's Adventures! ♡
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.
Selanese Empire wrote:Not many would notice except for the little cult surrounding him.
[Sig] "Far-left neo-Valentinist party “Democratic” finally banned after investigations find that it sponsored anti-Selanese movements overseas."
by Dabarastan » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 am
by Unibot III » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:49 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Aclion » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:32 am
by Lord Dominator » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:13 am
by Zeritae » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:15 am
Lord Dominator wrote:I agree with the concept, less so the execution. My issue with cards for Z or N Day is that Zombie ones would essentially be linked to population (or a gigantic tie), and N Day ones would similarly end up as gigantic ties, ruining what I assume is an intention for a limited number of these (not a whole season).
Zurkerx wrote:Agarntrop wrote:snip
One already exists: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=484632&start=25
And seeing we're over the page limit, I #ilock now. We can't let the umm, super virus get out now.
by Praeceps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:44 am
Aclion wrote:Sounds a lot like Rares in Runescape. A one time release of a tradeable item intended to be a fun way to commemorate something. Unfortunatly the effect on rares in RS has not been nice. "While seemingly innocuous, these rares are damaging Runescape’s already fragmented and fragile community." I expect it would have a similar result, though on a much smaller scale on Nationstates. Since no new cards are released the supply would steadily decrease as collectors leave. Demand on the other hand would increase as new collectors come in. This means the price would steadily, and reliably rise an over time their role as a commemorative item will be superseded by their role as an investment. This would have effects on the wider card game, and I'd expect the wider NS community, as farming in order to buy these cards inflates their price in a vicious cycle, and players look to means outside the card game to acquire them.
If you are going to release commemorative cards learn from RS's mistake, and make them untradable, released to those players who qualified for them in the event you are commemorating.
by Strike » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 am
by Praeceps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:36 pm
Strike wrote:Depends how you implement it.
For the recently completed event, you could make a total of 8 commemorative cards (1 each for the Candidate & Running Mates of the final round)
Then you simply give the cards for free to each nation that voted for those nations. So anyone who voted Kuriko would get a Kuriko card and a Salaxalands card. Same for the other 3 candidates.
Inherently this means that
1) While they are commemorative, there are more of these than a regular legendary card, mimimizing their theoretical trade value - but as they are limited edition there won't otherwise be a way to get them
2) No benefit to card farmers, as by definition no user could get more than 2 cards - as only WA members could vote.
by Noahs Second Country » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:24 pm
Praeceps wrote:Unfortunately, you are wrong on both points. On the first point, it matters less the number of owners per card but the total amount of cards for that category. There were a total of 3,544 WA votes in the final round. That's 7,088 cards that will be distributed (presumably some of those will go to nations that will CTE soon or don't trade at all thus depressing the number of cards that are in "circulation"). The best season of legendaries to compare this to the total amount of Season 1 legendaries. While this isn't ideal (the rate of finding legendaries was greater than S2 and there are more legendaries in S1 than S2), the season has finished so it is the best for getting the total amount of legendaries we can expect to be in circulation for a season. There are about 180 legendaries, the number of copies can range widely depending on the legendary. While some may only have a couple dozen due to the nation CTEing, there are also legendaries with over a hundred owners. For the purpose of comparison, even if we lowball by saying there are 50 copies of each season 1 legendary on average, that gives us a total of 9,000 legendaries which is more total than you mentioned.
As such you could expect prices for these commemorative cards to be higher than legendaries on average.
As to your second point, card farmers would be able to get multiple of these cards by buying them at the market.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
by Strike » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:35 pm
by Praeceps » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:16 pm
by Noahs Second Country » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:39 pm
Praeceps wrote:I took into consideration also that not everyone who receives one of these cards would be interested in them. We all know of someone who wants a particular card but the owners of the card don't seem to be interested in cards anymore/will not respond to telegrams. So a fair amount of those cards won't be entering into circulation. Additionally, presumably some of these owners will no longer be active on the site and these cards will cease-to-exist.
I am not sure where the number of a card having 3500+ copies came by. The most would be Kuriko's with 1600 copies. Addressing your point that aside, it is a poor analogy to compare one of the most expensive legendaries with what would be the most common (by number of copies) of these commemorative editions. A better measure would be comparing the average (and in which case Kuriko and Salaxalans would be the most copies for commemorative while Valentine would be only 300). While even on the low end compared to the NSC's numbers for average number of copies for S1 legendaries in addition to the aforementioned disinterest of some voters and them CTEing, what would be the major factor is that there would be no potential at all for anymore copies. At all. What we have is what we get and there's no ability to create more as we are able to do with other legendaries.
I think this idea would be fine if the cards were able to be found with the same mechanisms used to find s1 cards and should sufficiently suppress prices.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
by Authoritaria-Imperia » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:02 pm
by Strike » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:18 pm
by SherpDaWerp » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:06 am
Unibot III wrote:What if doing things in-game could earn you a shot at obtaining special cards from an easter egg loot box? Like, the admins hid “accomplishments” as easter eggs to be unlocked.
A special card might be, for instance, Maxtopia. Or [Violet]. Dredd. Mantle. Francos Spain. Cards for every GCR (including Warzones.)
The mechanics that unlocked the cards would remain a mystery for players. But once players started to earn them, the cards would be highly valued in circulation and players would desperately try to figure what combination of actions was resulting in a lootbox.
by Catsfern » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:33 am
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