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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:46 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Is forming a voting bloc to keep out someone whose region has repeatedly tried to self-commend and also take over TNP actually unethical tho?

Excuse me, this is wrong, there was absolutely nothing unethical about our attempt to take over TNP. It's just politics. If TNP can't take politics they shouldnt be playing a politics simulator game.

Try reading what I said again, as you have totally misinterpreted it.

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The New California Republic wrote:You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

This is also verifiably wrong. Our self-commend attempts were a large part of what led to our shiny Liberation badge. :hug:

Wow, more misinterpretation.
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Postby Kuriko » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:58 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:OP - your proposal needs some significant work on grammar, structure and formatting, but fundamentally I support what you're going for here.

Once you've tided it up, you're free to pop into the CCD and gain a couple of endorsements to submit it yourself.

The New California Republic wrote:Is forming a voting bloc to keep out someone whose region has repeatedly tried to self-commend and also take over TNP actually unethical tho?

Excuse me, this is wrong, there was absolutely nothing unethical about our attempt to take over TNP. It's just politics. If TNP can't take politics they shouldnt be playing a politics simulator game.

The New California Republic wrote:You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

This is also verifiably wrong. Our self-commend attempts were a large part of what led to our shiny Liberation badge. :hug:

I know you can't respond after your forum ban, but if you want to help the OP with this be my guest :) I'll just sit here silently laughing, and if it passes I'll laugh even harder.
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Postby OOFD » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:14 am

I honestly am saying that there was nothing happening. Other nations can team up. It is actually their will. I don't think this draft will work. It should say Commend Kuriko for using their intelligence to come up with a political plot that helps them take out an opponent. It is a very smart move from Kuriko. I applaud Kuriko for doing a very good job of winning. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Zeritae » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:18 am

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Oofd wrote:I honestly am saying that there was nothing happening. Other nations can team up. It is actually their will. I don't think this draft will work. It should say Commend Kuriko for using their intelligence to come up with a political plot that helps them take out an opponent. It is a very smart move from Kuriko. I applaud Kuriko for doing a very good job of winning. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Loconianiccurelliver » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:46 am

Yokiria wrote:(Image)

How many times will people use this same image? Get more creative
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Postby Duravia » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:50 am

This draft must be a joke.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:39 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
Yokiria wrote:(Image)

How many times will people use this same image? Get more creative

If the shoe fits...
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Postby Yokiria » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:15 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Get more creative
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Postby Loconianiccurelliver » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:48 am

CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:50 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

Nobody sees your point.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.
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Postby Loconianiccurelliver » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:55 am

The New California Republic wrote:CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.

Did Kuriko not win the election essentially Taking Over the Secretary General position
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:58 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.

Did Kuriko not win the election essentially Taking Over the Secretary General position

Only if you really want to bend and distort the English language to within an inch of its life to make that the case. ;)
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But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Chavandriclanderpleistan » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 am

Even if Joco had made it into the top five, previous round results indicated that an actual win for Joco was extremely implausible. This fact should mostly render the points of "rigging" as moot, whether or not it was truly the case.

I mean, Codemn a nation for allegedly keeping someone out of round 4, when they had already lost the previous 3 by a far margin? This is the kind of petty energy we want in the SC!

It'll be a good resolution when you put more deliberate jokes in it, to match the circumstances! I only laughed at the serious parts this time round, sorry.
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Postby OOFD » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 am

What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

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Postby Haruhi Japan » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 am

Oofd wrote:What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

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Postby Andsed » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:48 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.
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Postby Loconianiccurelliver » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am

[quote=Andsed]Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.[/quote]
what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:01 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out

Burying your head in euphemisms isn't going to redeem this godawful draft proposal. ;)
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Andsed » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:09 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.

what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out[/quote]

I don't give a shit about whatever this "WA allocation" was. All I give a damm about is your claim that the ""WA elite rigged"" the election. A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis. There was no bots or blackmail going on here, just people who did not want the CCD in the race and so they voted in a manner to prevent that. Maybe you guys should consider why people don't like the CCD instead of whining about it and making god awful proposals.
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Postby Kuriko » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:15 am

Oofd wrote:What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm far from popular.
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Postby Loconianiccurelliver » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:18 am

what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:19 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.

Grammar that still makes more sense than your proposal.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:22 am

Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.

Are you actually even working on this draft anymore, or has it just become a platform from which to snipe at your detractors?
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:22 am

Andsed wrote:
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar

Grammar that still makes more sense than your proposal.

And that proposal still isn't put in an appropriate box to make it clear it's their proposal.
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