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by Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:37 pm
by Island Girl Herby » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:52 am
by The ethno-state of Trashys » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:03 am
by Greifenburg » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:52 am
The ethno-state of Trashys wrote:“Guys there is already a movement to repeal this. Let’s not vote for it.”
by Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:26 am
The ethno-state of Trashys wrote:“Guys there is already a movement to repeal this. Let’s not vote for it.”-
World Assembly Delegate Michael Bader.
by The ethno-state of Trashys » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:13 am
Island Girl Herby wrote:Okay so this is a good idea but the execution here is a little off bud. This one-eighth thing means giving people six and a half weeks off of leave. That’s a bit too much. Also there should be exceptions for critical services like emergency and medical personnel, pharmaceutical suppliers, military, supply chain workers, yada yada yada. Otherwise you’re just makin’ things worse for everyone.
by Authoritaria-Imperia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:29 pm
by ArenaC » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:27 am
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:As much as we appreciate the sentiment behind this resolution, Authoritaria-Imperia is voting against it, for many of the same reasons as other nations. This resolution fails to accomodate for the situations of crucial employees and emergency services in special circumstances. In medical or environmental catastrophes, for example, employees cannot simply "take time off" and leave the national and international economies at a standstill. Additionally, this attempt appears rushed, not just for these reasons but for glaring grammatical errors and major loopholes as well. In such a major institution as the World Assembly, professionalism and formality must be upheld, and such a low-quality, one-size-fits-all approach is not acceptable.
If more time had been spent on this resolution, perhaps we would be able to provide our support, but in its current form it must not be passed. If it is, Authoritaria-Imperia will strongly consider voting in favour of a repeal.
— D. Nile, Head of International Affairs for the Great Empire of Authoritaria-Imperia
by Cosmosplosion » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:02 am
by Marxist Germany » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:16 pm
by Araraukar » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:36 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Cisairse » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:59 pm
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Okay, so slightly less tired brain, but doesn't "Mandates that all workers receive reasonable work leave in the amount of one-eigth of all expected work periods within the typical fiscal period," mean that if you're paid by the hour, then it's the one-eigth of the hour? Reseting at the start of the next work hour? So you could take 7.5 minutes off, but would need to be back at work when your next work hour begins? Given the lack of definition of "fiscal period", that sounds strange but possible.
Not going to repeat what all the others have said about this being rushed and the requirements for the leave being awfully lax and poorly defined.
by Cisairse » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:05 pm
Lothric- wrote:considering that i have literal slavery, i dont think this could work, because the workers dont get sick leave or time off. vote against this retarded proposal
by Cosmosplosion » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 pm
Lothric- wrote:considering that i have literal slavery, i dont think this could work, because the workers dont get sick leave or time off. vote against this retarded proposal
by Parti Ouvrier » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:47 pm
Cosmosplosion wrote:It is with some regret that I must announce my support for delegates and individual nations to vote AGAINST this proposal as-is.
It has been correctly pointed out to me three fatal flaws with this legislation as is that, in my opinion, while still doing some to improve the rights of workers', also make it ineffective in other ways.
First, creating an umbrella program for sick leave, family medical leave, and maternity/paternity leave was a mistake. Those should all be seperated, and more specifically a higher amount of maternity/paternity leave should be granted.
Further, the current version doesn't mandate a minimum amount, but instead an exact amount, of time off of work.
And finally, the failure to include nonsalaried/commission/freelance based work is not acceptable. These workers also deserve protections in this case.
It is my intention to fix these problems, and offer a much better proposal in its place.
TLDR; So please, at my request Vote Against "On The Health And Financial Well-being Of Workers".
by Araraukar » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:33 am
Cisairse wrote:Fiscal period means the length of time which each paycheck provides compensation for.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by The Yellow Monkey » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:35 am
by Lothric- » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:29 am
Cisairse wrote:Lothric- wrote:considering that i have literal slavery, i dont think this could work, because the workers dont get sick leave or time off. vote against this retarded proposal
Slavery has been prohibited in World Assembly nations since GA#23: Ban on Slavery and Trafficking passed in October, 2008.
by Cosmosplosion » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:48 am
Lothric- wrote:Cisairse wrote:
Slavery has been prohibited in World Assembly nations since GA#23: Ban on Slavery and Trafficking passed in October, 2008.
That sucks, because if you look at my policies, I have slavery enacted..And Child Labour. Sucks to be a WA lackey having to pay your workers, I suppose, while I rake in the big bucks off free labour.
Quite simply, if you are a member of the World Assembly, everything that has been passed by the General Assembly is as good as law in your country. There is no optionality and no way not to comply (as is the case with the real United Nations where countries can simply declare "your laws do not apply to me!"). All member nations are bound by the passed resolutions....As a matter of game mechanics, non-compliance is simply impossible. Upon a resolution's passage, the "WA gnomes" come into your nation and make it compliant, leaving behind a little telegram as a token of their visit. While there are times when you can select a non-compliant issue option, the general consensus is that the gnomes then come in and make everything compliant again.
by Lothric- » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:01 pm
Cosmosplosion wrote:Lothric- wrote:That sucks, because if you look at my policies, I have slavery enacted..And Child Labour. Sucks to be a WA lackey having to pay your workers, I suppose, while I rake in the big bucks off free labour.
From Kelssek;Quite simply, if you are a member of the World Assembly, everything that has been passed by the General Assembly is as good as law in your country. There is no optionality and no way not to comply (as is the case with the real United Nations where countries can simply declare "your laws do not apply to me!"). All member nations are bound by the passed resolutions....As a matter of game mechanics, non-compliance is simply impossible. Upon a resolution's passage, the "WA gnomes" come into your nation and make it compliant, leaving behind a little telegram as a token of their visit. While there are times when you can select a non-compliant issue option, the general consensus is that the gnomes then come in and make everything compliant again.
So no, you don't have slavery. or child labour, and or any of the other things you purport to have. So please stop. Thanks.
by Cosmosplosion » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:03 pm
Lothric- wrote:Cosmosplosion wrote:From Kelssek;
So no, you don't have slavery. or child labour, and or any of the other things you purport to have. So please stop. Thanks.
What a shame..For you that is. Simply looking at my policies, factbook on slavery, and my country's laws, one can tell that these dumb laws the WA passes has no effect on my country, merely because I do not abide by them. Complain as you will, as a member of NS, I have the right to chose how my country is organized and run, and as the policies say, "Slavery and Child Labour is allowed!"
Sooooooo...
by Lothric- » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:05 pm
Cosmosplosion wrote:Lothric- wrote:What a shame..For you that is. Simply looking at my policies, factbook on slavery, and my country's laws, one can tell that these dumb laws the WA passes has no effect on my country, merely because I do not abide by them. Complain as you will, as a member of NS, I have the right to chose how my country is organized and run, and as the policies say, "Slavery and Child Labour is allowed!"
Sooooooo...
So why are you here? All you are doing is...pissing people off and making yourself look like someone incapable of playing the game. You clearly do not understand the game mechanics and how things work around here. With all due respect, find somewhere else to troll.
by Cisairse » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:06 pm
Cosmosplosion wrote:Lothric- wrote:That sucks, because if you look at my policies, I have slavery enacted..And Child Labour. Sucks to be a WA lackey having to pay your workers, I suppose, while I rake in the big bucks off free labour.
From Kelssek;Quite simply, if you are a member of the World Assembly, everything that has been passed by the General Assembly is as good as law in your country. There is no optionality and no way not to comply (as is the case with the real United Nations where countries can simply declare "your laws do not apply to me!"). All member nations are bound by the passed resolutions....As a matter of game mechanics, non-compliance is simply impossible. Upon a resolution's passage, the "WA gnomes" come into your nation and make it compliant, leaving behind a little telegram as a token of their visit. While there are times when you can select a non-compliant issue option, the general consensus is that the gnomes then come in and make everything compliant again.
So no, you don't have slavery. or child labour, and or any of the other things you purport to have. So please stop. Thanks.
by Cosmosplosion » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:08 pm
Lothric- wrote:Cosmosplosion wrote:So why are you here? All you are doing is...pissing people off and making yourself look like someone incapable of playing the game. You clearly do not understand the game mechanics and how things work around here. With all due respect, find somewhere else to troll.
I'm debating the WA proposal, as I am allowed to do. You on the other hand are here insulting somebody and trying to force your beliefs onto them, despite being told you're wrong by multiple people. If you're getting pissed, that's on you, 'kiddo.'
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