Coronavirus Thread mark II: Official Apocalyptic Edition

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I'd hope that if he did that, lots of international investers would start arbitration proceedings against the UK.

Nothing would come of it.

I wouldn't be too certain about that. They'd have to prove to them that they took the least restrictive possible option.

[San Lumen]

and he could threaten state governments, colleges and companies if they disobey him

With what, exactly?

withholding funds and other aid.

a pandemic is not an excuse to create a dictatorship and suspend all civil liberties

Restriction on civil liberties is always an option in extreme national emergencies. Now, it would not have to occur if the average person was not a moron and followed guidelines but here we are.

No it shouldnt be. If people want to be morons that's their choice unless you want a police state

[Greater vakolicci haven]

a pandemic is not an excuse to create a dictatorship and suspend all civil liberties

Restriction on civil liberties is always an option in extreme national emergencies. Now, it would not have to occur if the average person was not a moron and followed guidelines but here we are.

Restrictions on civil liberties are literally never justifiable.

[LRON]

I thought you were against him doing such things?

When did I say otherwise?

Well given your recent turn that the economy is more important than saving your healthcare sector from collapsing and scores of people dying tied in with Trump's recent opening that he wants to scale back guidelines in the vain hope that will win him reelection, I kind of assumed you were okay with forcing the lockdowns to end and for people to die. It would seem to be up your boulevard as it were, old chap.

[LRON]

Restriction on civil liberties is always an option in extreme national emergencies. Now, it would not have to occur if the average person was not a moron and followed guidelines but here we are.

Restrictions on civil liberties are literally never justifiable.

Of course they. There are times when they have to be restricted so that the nation can make it through an emergency such as a major war, think World War II, or major devastating acts of nature such as a major pandemic.

[San Lumen]

When did I say otherwise?

Well given your recent turn that the economy is more important than saving your healthcare sector from collapsing and scores of people dying tied in with Trump's recent opening that he wants to scale back guidelines in the vain hope that will win him reelection, I kind of assumed you were okay with forcing the lockdowns to end and for people to die. It would seem to be up your boulevard as it were, old chap.

what i have said was you need to strike a balance. Lockdowns cannot be done indefinitely. The world is vastly different from 1918.

If your economy collapses the healthcare sector would be affected too.

[Lost Memories]

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/

But we shouldn't call it kung flu or the chinese virus cause that's allegedly racist.

That article forgot to mention the various other people who tried to report what was going on in Wuhan at the start of the outbreak and who disappeared without trace.

Coronavirus: Why have two reporters in Wuhan disappeared?

At least 5 people in China have disappeared, gotten arrested, or been silenced after speaking out about the coronavirus

[The New California Republic]

The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

[LRON]

With what, exactly?

withholding funds and other aid.

Restriction on civil liberties is always an option in extreme national emergencies. Now, it would not have to occur if the average person was not a moron and followed guidelines but here we are.

No it shouldnt be. If people want to be morons that's their choice unless you want a police state

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Restrictions on civil liberties are literally never justifiable.

Of course they. There are times when they have to be restricted so that the nation can make it through an emergency such as a major war, think World War II, or major devastating acts of nature such as a major pandemic.

I couldn't even support it during a war honestly, largely because I don't think my country should be involved in wars.

[Nakena]

The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

They could call it Tokyo 21 and make it like be the first true Olympics of the 21th century marketing or whatever.

[Ethel mermania]

Restriction on civil liberties is always an option in extreme national emergencies. Now, it would not have to occur if the average person was not a moron and followed guidelines but here we are.

Restrictions on civil liberties are literally never justifiable.

Sure they are, prison is a restriction of civil liberties

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Restrictions on civil liberties are literally never justifiable.

Sure they are, prison is a restriction of civil liberties

I'm a prison abolitionist. I've discussed this on ns before.

Next?

[Nakena]

Sure they are, prison is a restriction of civil liberties

I'm a prison abolitionist. I've discussed this on ns before.

Next?

You are in favor of a mad max tier society with hoppean characteristics. We know that by now.

[San Lumen]

withholding funds and other aid.


No it shouldnt be. If people want to be morons that's their choice unless you want a police state

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

[Ifreann]

With what, exactly?

withholding funds and other aid.

He can't withhold funds unless Congress lets him withhold funds.

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The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

I dunno, I think it's kinda funny to hold Tokyo 2020 in 2021. Says something about what a shambles the world is.

[San Lumen]

withholding funds and other aid.

He can't withhold funds unless Congress lets him withhold funds.

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The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

I dunno, I think it's kinda funny to hold Tokyo 2020 in 2021. Says something about what a shambles the world is.

They said it was ok to hold up aid to Ukraine.

[Nakena]

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

Vote by mail. Or suspend the constitution.

[LRON]

Well given your recent turn that the economy is more important than saving your healthcare sector from collapsing and scores of people dying tied in with Trump's recent opening that he wants to scale back guidelines in the vain hope that will win him reelection, I kind of assumed you were okay with forcing the lockdowns to end and for people to die. It would seem to be up your boulevard as it were, old chap.

what i have said was you need to strike a balance. Lockdowns cannot be done indefinitely. The world is vastly different from 1918.

If your economy collapses the healthcare sector would be affected too.

A balance could have been struck had we not wasted our opportunity. Westerners however are too used to comfort, too soft and with a warped sense of libertas and pietas, mainly by the lack of the latter. So we did nothing. That moment to strike a balance is over, chap. Let me tell you this, as someone with lots of money - the economy will always bounce back. Dead people do not, unless you believe in zombies or something. If scores of people start dying and are being hospitalized and the healthcare system crashes even more severely I can assure you that the economic consequences of that will be far, far more devastating than a lockdown of a month or two. Investors are like zebras, they are easily scared by the slightest movement in the bush let alone if they started being chased by a lion. What you are proposing. Will. Not. Work.

[The New California Republic]

Sure they are, prison is a restriction of civil liberties

I'm a prison abolitionist. I've discussed this on ns before.

Next?

Getting someone sectioned on mental health grounds to stop a person from murdering any passerby they see because the person imagines voices are telling them to purge the world.

Yeah you are probably against someone being sectioned too.

[Ethel mermania]

Sure they are, prison is a restriction of civil liberties

I'm a prison abolitionist. I've discussed this on ns before.

Next?

I never knew, because I really dont care about you, but I am not surprised.

[LRON]

Of course they. There are times when they have to be restricted so that the nation can make it through an emergency such as a major war, think World War II, or major devastating acts of nature such as a major pandemic.

I couldn't even support it during a war honestly, largely because I don't think my country should be involved in wars.

Well if you want to believe in that kind of stupidity, you go right ahead.

[San Lumen]

what i have said was you need to strike a balance. Lockdowns cannot be done indefinitely. The world is vastly different from 1918.

If your economy collapses the healthcare sector would be affected too.

A balance could have been struck had we not wasted our opportunity. Westerners however are too used to comfort, too soft and with a warped sense of libertas and pietas, mainly by the lack of the latter. So we did nothing. That moment to strike a balance is over, chap. Let me tell you this, as someone with lots of money - the economy will always bounce back. Dead people do not, unless you believe in zombies or something. If scores of people start dying and are being hospitalized and the healthcare system crashes even more severely I can assure you that the economic consequences of that will be far, far more devastating than a lockdown of a month or two. Investors are like zebras, they are easily scared by the slightest movement in the bush let alone if they started being chased by a lion. What you are proposing. Will. Not. Work.

What;'s your solution then? Keep everything closed until there is a vaccine? You;'ll have no economy, unemployment at record highs. almost every business large and small bankrupt and a government default on the debt.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I'm a prison abolitionist. I've discussed this on ns before.

Next?

Getting someone sectioned on mental health grounds to stop a person from murdering any passerby they see because the person imagines voices are telling them to purge the world.

Yeah you are probably against someone being sectioned too.

It's a potential masters dissertation topic of mine, in fact.

[LRON]

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

Well Americans, much like quite a number of Britons, have shown they are incapable of partaking voluntarily - so perhaps, yes?