Australian rePublic wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
This is a drastic reduction of what you said earlier.
What about if a woman uses contraception, and her partner does too, and she still gets pregnant?
Is it "acceptable" or is it "murder" to then get a termination?
Murder. Everything in life has consequences. Whether it's right or wrong, whether pleseant or unpleseant.
I do not like your tack. Murder is 10 to 15 years in prison, at taxpayer expense.
Under your idea of law, thousands of women go to prison, wasting their potential for society. And doctors I expect too, will go to prison, wasting their training and skills. For nothing, no wait, for less than nothing. We all have to pay for their imprisonment.
If you invest your entire lifesavings in the world's biggest company on the stock market, and it goes broke, the you have to live the consequneces of losing your savings. If you play $10,000 at the casino, you run the risk of losing 100% of the money. Similarly, if you have sex, you run the risk of both of your cintroceptives failing and getting pregnant. Things in life have consequences.
Yes things in life have consequences. Kid. What you're saying is that there should be more negative consequences for certain things, which it pleases you to call murder.
You're here on an adult forum making serious arguments, so let me put this to you. A law criminalizing abortion can exist, or it can not exist. Whether it exists or not, fetuses will be terminated, but the only effect of more or less fetuses being terminated is that more or less abstract human lives will commence or not commence.
Are you really so confident in your judgement as one of the grown adult human beings who make the laws, that you want to throw thousands of people into prison (at your expense and mine) to protect potential people?
That's one of them. You knew that controseptives weren't 100% effective, and you still agreed to use it. You took a gamble, you lost, you live with the consequences. As long no one cheats. If someone cheats, it changes everything
For instance they got pregnant then accused the partner of rape. Because that was the only way they could get a legal abortion.
Changes everything, right?
Big ass dualism just falls apart when one person lies.
Oh dear me. I'm so sorry for your dualism. It was better than that. It didn't deserve to be shot in the back like that ...