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by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:53 am
by Plzen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:55 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Territorial Core : England, Scotland, Ireland
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Capital City : Cardiff
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Government Type : Absolute monarchy
by The Felan Federation » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:57 am
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:07 am
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:08 am
The Felan Federation wrote:Hmm.
I wonder if I could play as perhaps Mayans whom survived until this day?
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:13 am
by Plzen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:26 am
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:31 am
Plzen wrote:
I doubt the medieval Varangian arrangement would have survived... Scandinavia isn't exactly the destitute homeland of barbarians that it was a millennia ago - now drawing men away from Scandinavia will need a bigger lure than mere military service, no matter how glorious or well-paid.
That being said... I can imagine the practice being revived in the Romantic Nationalist wave of the 19th Century... a unit - a ceremonial guards unit, fit for combat but more often used for parades and government security - of maybe 500, 1,000 men in the Scandinavian Army, deployed to the Roman Empire for "cultural exchange."
by Plzen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:34 am
Tracian Empire wrote:The one way this would be stopped if Scandinavia itself would be taking measures and laws to stop people from joining - but like I said, the Varangians would recruit from nearly anywhere outside of the empire, with the notable exception of its closest enemies.
by Kargintina the Third » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:37 am
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:37 am
Plzen wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:The one way this would be stopped if Scandinavia itself would be taking measures and laws to stop people from joining - but like I said, the Varangians would recruit from nearly anywhere outside of the empire, with the notable exception of its closest enemies.
Hmm... yes, I can see that might be viable. Provided that you offer a big enough incentive to keep them coming. Romanticist nationalism alone won't propel more than a tiny trickle of men.
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:38 am
Kargintina the Third wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Republic of Sassania
Territory: Iran, Iraq
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by Kargintina the Third » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:49 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Kargintina the Third wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Republic of Sassania
Territory: Iran, Iraq
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A Sassanid Republic? I'm not sure how that concept would work, but the reservation is accepted!
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:53 am
Kargintina the Third wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:A Sassanid Republic? I'm not sure how that concept would work, but the reservation is accepted!
The idea is that instead of Islamic conquest, Miaphysitism started growing in the Empire in large amounts, eventually forcing it to liberalize and have a Parliament. This in turn eventually forced it to eventually abolish the monarchy entirely and become a Republic. Now there is freedom of religion between the Zoroastrians and the Miaphystites.
by Reverend Norv » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Plzen wrote:I doubt the medieval Varangian arrangement would have survived... Scandinavia isn't exactly the destitute homeland of barbarians that it was a millennia ago - now drawing men away from Scandinavia will need a bigger lure than mere military service, no matter how glorious or well-paid.
That being said... I can imagine the practice being revived in the Romantic Nationalist wave of the 19th Century... a unit - a ceremonial guards unit, fit for combat but more often used for parades and government security - of maybe 500, 1,000 men in the Scandinavian Army, deployed to the Roman Empire for "cultural exchange."
It would be a private thing anyway - the guard itself certainly does survive for the entire duration of the empire, even if its membership would have, much like in real life, stopped being made only of Norse. I don't think that it would be impossible for at least some Scandiavians to try to join the Varangians however - much like how there are mercenary groups in real life.
The one way this would be stopped if Scandinavia itself would be taking measures and laws to stop people from joining - but like I said, the Varangians would recruit from nearly anywhere outside of the empire, with the notable exception of its closest enemies.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Kargintina the Third » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:23 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Kargintina the Third wrote:The idea is that instead of Islamic conquest, Miaphysitism started growing in the Empire in large amounts, eventually forcing it to liberalize and have a Parliament. This in turn eventually forced it to eventually abolish the monarchy entirely and become a Republic. Now there is freedom of religion between the Zoroastrians and the Miaphystites.
Well, I'll see how you can explain it in the app. Two things though: the first is that the Islamic Conquests still happened, so you have to find a way to explain Persia's survival, and secondly - I do think that you should perhaps choose another name - Sassania is a bit too dynastic and was also not the official name of the Sassanid realm.
by Plzen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:24 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Common enemies go a long way.
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:33 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:It would be a private thing anyway - the guard itself certainly does survive for the entire duration of the empire, even if its membership would have, much like in real life, stopped being made only of Norse. I don't think that it would be impossible for at least some Scandiavians to try to join the Varangians however - much like how there are mercenary groups in real life.
The one way this would be stopped if Scandinavia itself would be taking measures and laws to stop people from joining - but like I said, the Varangians would recruit from nearly anywhere outside of the empire, with the notable exception of its closest enemies.
Thus died the dreams of a thousand French schoolboys of one day becoming Varangians. Well, maybe not a thousand.
by Reverend Norv » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:34 am
Plzen wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:Common enemies go a long way.
Well, unless Exilvania has been feeding me a pack of lies, I don’t think I have that much to frear from Germany. The Association’s foreign policy, in this case, will probably be focused towards playing mediator between France and the Central European Empire. We would benefit from a strong Continental bloc against Russia and Anglelond.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:37 am
Kargintina the Third wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:Well, I'll see how you can explain it in the app. Two things though: the first is that the Islamic Conquests still happened, so you have to find a way to explain Persia's survival, and secondly - I do think that you should perhaps choose another name - Sassania is a bit too dynastic and was also not the official name of the Sassanid realm.
I suppose I’ll come up with a different backstory and name then, but reservation still stands for Iraq and Iran.
by Kargintina the Third » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:04 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Kargintina the Third wrote:I suppose I’ll come up with a different backstory and name then, but reservation still stands for Iraq and Iran.
Well, if you feel any help, feel free to ask xD
I'm the ERE player, and it would really be nice to have a strong Iran to the east, it opens many historical possibilities
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:07 am
by The Felan Federation » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:11 am
by Tracian Empire » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 am
The Felan Federation wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Duchy of Ansburg
Territory: Central America
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by Kargintina the Third » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:23 am
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