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Postby Osea 767 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:09 am

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Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance

Preamble

The Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance, also officially known as the Serovskaya Pact (SP) and referred as such in all official alliance documents, exists for the intention of ensuring collective security and prosperity for all the members of the Pact. In turn, the members of the Serovskaya Pact declare their unshakable support for Socialist ideals, proletarian internationalism and for implacable defence of our enlightened ideals against the forces of bourgeois ideology, anti-socialists and the agents of imperialism and similarly regressive ideologies.


Alliance Rules


Article one: Application process

- If a nation wishes to join the Serovskaya Pact, they are required to fill out the application form below. Note that we require applicants to have a population that is 50 Million or more. Decisions on applications can be made by either the General Secretary of the Serovskaya Pact or the Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs. If a decision is not made or a large percent of members of the Serovskaya Pact object to the decision made, the applications will be decided by a vote by the Representatives of the member nations in the Council of Representatives. If a nation has their application approved, they are expected to join the Serovskaya Pact forum


- If a nation that wishes to join the Serovskaya Pact is already a member of any other military alliances, they are required to inform the Pact of their membership in those alliances in their application. They are then expected to keep the alliance informed of all military alliances they are members of in addition to the SP. This is to ensure that there are no conflicts of interest that could pose a threat to the collective security of the Serovskaya Pact.

- The Serovskaya Pact is an alliance dedicated to the support of socialism, and so only accepts socialist nations, or with ideologies that are are closely tied to socialist principles, as members. This includes democratic socialism, though Osea feels that socialism is only healthy when mated with democratic institutions and so feels that the addition of "Democratic" with "Socialism" is superfluous. Therefore, states without healthy democratic institutions are not allowed in the pact. With that in mind, nations following the following ideologies are not allowed in the Pact.

. Stalinism
. Maoism

- There are two types of membership, full member and probationary. The full member status is one where all the rules apply and the state has all the rights and duties of a member. Then there is probationary membership. This type of membership may be desired by the applicant, or the only type of membership they can acquire. This could be because the applicant does not meet the RP standard expected for members. It could also be because they do not meet the size requirement for members or are still new to NS. Either way, those who get this membership status cannot vote like full members. They do get to make input into the pact decision making process though, along with defence by pact members and support by the pact to help them become a valued member of this organisation. For the acquisition of full member status, the probationary member must be able to RP with a good standard, show that they will work as a part of the pact and meet the requirements on population size and economic donations, with the last requirement one that can be suspended if the member has an appropriate economic reason to be incapable of meeting it.


Membership Application Form

Full nation name:
Population:
Desired Membership type (Probationary/Full):
Your present relationship with pact members:
National leader's title:
Type of Political system:
Type of Economic System:
State ideology (if applicable):
Current wars?(if any):
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any):
Role Play Examples (please give at least two examples if possible, along with links to those examples):
Additional Information that you wish to add:


Article two: Basic Alliance Structure

- The members of the Serovskaya Pact shall be represented by the Serovskaya Pact Council of Representatives. As a matter of fairness, each member shall get only one representative on the Council, to avoid smaller nations getting bullied by the larger nations of the pact. Each council's representative will be there to allow each nation to voice their opinions and encourage discussion between the member nations. The Council of Representatives will be lead by the General Secretary of the Serovskaya Pact, a position which will be held by the leading nation of the Serovskaya Pact. This position will also hold the ability to veto proposals. However, ownership of this position means that the leading nation does not have a regular representative like the other members of the pact.

- While the Serovskaya Pact Council of Representatives will be the main legislative body of the Serovskaya Pact, the executive body of the pact will be the Serovskaya Pact Council of Commissioners. Each of these Commissioners will manage one of the Commissions that handle the day-to-day affairs of the alliance. These will be elected by the member nations of the Pact. selected from applicants from member nations by the General Secretary of the Serovskaya Pact. The General Secretary of the Serovskaya Pact will act as the head and chairman/woman of the Council of Commissioners. The Council as a whole will serve as the executive body of the Serovskaya Pact, handling all matters related to the portfolios of the Commissioners and the day to day matters of the alliance. The Council members, apart from the General Secretary, are subject to the power of both the member state or the Council of Representatives to instantly recall a Commissioner if it it thought they are not doing their job or are abusing their position.

- The General Secretary will be the head of the Serovskaya Pact and will be selected by the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea to act on its behalf as the leader of the Pact. Under the General Secretary will be the Deputy Secretary of the Serovskaya Pact. The owner of this office will be selected by a general pact vote. He/she will have the same powers in the Pact as the General Secretary, such as veto power, and sits over Pact meetings with the General Secretary. If the General Secretary is absent, the Deputy Secretary will be expected to take over the duties of the General Secretary during the time of absence. If the two Secretaries disagree, they will be expected to reach one. If they cannot, the General Secretary may override decisions of the Deputy Secretary, though this should only be done if there are no other options


These Commissions are:-

The Commission for Internal Pact Affairs
The Commission for External Pact Affairs
The Commission for Pact Defence
The Commission of Economic Affairs
The Commission for Technological and Infrastructural Development




Article three: Military Structure and Rules

- The members of the Serovskaya Pact will defend any member of the Pact if they come under attack. This extends from attacks by non member nations to rogue members. However, if the rest of the alliance decides that the nation being attacked has either done something that conflicts with the principles of the alliance or that the attacker has reasons that can be justified properly to the Council of Representatives, the alliance can decide not to act in defence of the member being attacked.

- As mentioned, if a member attacks another member, the other members of the alliance are expected to come to the attacked members defence. The attacking nation will also be thrown out of the Serovskaya Pact. A possible exception to this is if the attacking nation had good reasoning behind its actions. If that is the case, then the Serovskaya Pact Council of Representatives will vote on whether to expel the attacking nation or the attacked nation from the Serovskaya Pact. They will also discuss alternative actions that the Pact could undertake.

- The defence of socialism, like that in the member states, is therefore a pillar of what the Serovskya Pact stands for. To protect our socialist ideals from counter-revolutionary and anti-socialist forces, member nations will allow the Soviet Union of Osea and other Serovskaya Pact members to intervene in their internal affairs if the legitimate socialist government is under threat from hostile forces. In this, Osea wishes to remind those reading this that there have been instances in the past of oppressive nations financing the overthrow of legitimate governments, which is why this measure is necessary. It is the ultimate guarantee against attempts by foreigners to try and cause the overthrow of governments that they do not like.

- As the military forces of the Serovskaya Pact will need to be capable of reacting in a coordinated and unified manner to military threats. Therefore, a Unified Command of Serovskaya Pact Armed Forces will be established for the command of Serovskaya Pact forces during a military situation. This will be headed by the Chief of the Unified Staff. As the SSUO is the leading nation of the Serovskya Pact, this position will be given to the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Soviet Union. In peacetime, the Chief of the Unified Staff will serve his role in the Pact under the command of the Commissioner for Pact Defence.

- Given the need for the Serovskya Pact to react quickly to changing situations and unexpected event on the international stage, Serovskaya Pact members will agree to allow the Unified Command to create strategic bases in the territory of Pact members where it is deemed necessary by the Unified Staff. This will allow Pact forces to react quickly to protect members rather than first need to move forces to members before they can do anything. In this respect, there will also be a need to local commanders. Therefore, if Serovskaya Pact forces are acting in support of each other, members will allow their forces to be put under the command of a overall commander, who will be given the role so that he or she can effectively direct the Serovskaya Pact forces in that area.


Article four: Alliance Economics

- Due to the financial requirements of the Serovskaya Pact, it is a necessary that member nations provide a sum of money equivalent to about one percent of their GDP to the Pact treasury. However, if a member is experiencing economic troubles and feels that they cannot pay this, they can ask for the sum to either be reduced or cut completely, depending on the circumstances of the member.

- The nations of the pact should, because of their socialist principles, consider it a priority to avoid having economic ties to capitalist nations and entities that are not tolerant of our socialist ideals and/or ready to act against the Pact. To aid the nations of the pact in this endeavour, the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea will agree to buy large amounts of export goods from the other member nations of the pact at prices inflated above the market average. It will also agree to sell export goods to member nations at reduced export prices.

- While reducing economic ties with capitalist and imperialist nations and entities is important, the opposite is true for nations on the political left, such as socialist nations. Since the Serovskaya Pact is one created for socialists, this principle is applicable to its members. To ensure healthy and well developed economic ties, members of the Serovskaya Pact will not implement tariffs of more than 5% on other members of the Pact.

- It is important that the members of the Serovskaya Pact stand together in all areas of life. Considering this, the Serovskaya Pact will allow member nations with troubled economies to apply for an economic package from the pact to enable an economic recovery. The member nation will not have to pay back the package. However they might have to agree to undertake economic reforms before they are allowed to receive the package. There is also a application form that members have to fill in before a decision can be made by the pact. If the request is due to sudden events, unconnected to the actions of the nation's government, like a natural disaster or terrorist attack, there is a second, alternate form for the member to fill out in place of the first form.



Application Form 1 (economic aid)

Full nation name:
Population:
Type of Political system:
Type of Economic System (please provide as much detail as possible on how the economy is structured and how it is run):
Is your nation running a trade deficit or a surplus?
Is your nation involved in any particular costly projects or wars?
How bad is the economic situation in your nation?
What problems would you personally identify with how your economy is presently structured and run?


Application Form 2 (disaster relief)

Full nation name:
Population:
Type of Political system:
Type of Economic System:
Reason for the request:



Article five: External Relations of the Alliance

- The Serovskaya Pact must be capable of representing itself in a unified manner on the international stage. This task will be given to the Commission for External Pact Affairs. This Commission will be structured like the foreign nation, but with alterations to account for the multinational nature of the Pact and will be headed by the Commissioner for External Pact Affairs. The diplomats will be initially from the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea, with diversification off the diplomatic corps created as diplomats are recruited from other member nations.

- Serovskaya Pact members will agree to the construction and operation of an Internal Political Commission, for diplomatic and administrative purposes, in its political capital. These are to be funded by the member nations which the Commissions are based in, unless the member is incapable of supporting their Internal Political Commission branch. If that is the case, the Internal Political Commission will be funded by the Serovskaya Pact.

- Citizens of Serovskaya Pact members will be allowed to apply for a Serovskya Pact Visa. This Visa, in addition to working like a normal visa, will allow Citizens of Serovskaya Pact members to move around Serovskaya Pact nations without having to go through the usual security checks. The Visas will be distributed by the Commission for Internal Pact Affairs. These visas will also allow the citizens of member nations to settle in the territory of other Pact members than their own, with the condition that the citizen acquires work in their new country of residence. Member nations can request exception for their nation in regards to this section, such as restrictions on the travel of certain groups. The acceptance of these limitations depends on a decision from the Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs.

- The Soviet Socialist Union of Osea has long maintained a programme which allows the citizens of other nations to go to Osea to receive education in the schools and Collages constructed as part of Osea's program, the International Education Program (IEP). For this program, there are specially constructed education centres, though many are still sent to normal Soviet educational centres. This applies to all who seek university level education, as the creation of new universities is considered to be unproductive. In the Serovskaya Pact, the Osean programme will be linked to other such programs through the Association of International Educational Programs, so that they can coordinate their efforts in making the best education opportunities be available to the citizens of all Serovskaya Pact Nations.


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Full Members Present (18)

. The Federal Socialist Republic of Osea (FSRO)
. The Commonwealth of Concordeia (CC)
. The Grand Proletariat State of Rusikstan (GRSR)
. The United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia (USSS)
. The Eco-Socialist Federation of the Floridian Coast (ESFFC)
. The Slavic Republic of Vostria (SRV)
. The United Socialist Republic of Neo-Sincostan (USRNS)
. The Soviet States of Great Lenin (SSGL)
. The Independent Socialist Nation of Gandoor (ISNG)
. The Martilian Soviet Socialist Republic (MSSR)
. The Grand People's Republic of Hypparchia (GPRH)
. The Republic of Thurask (RT)
. The Most Serene Patronship of Atomosea (MSPA)
. The Postan Federative Socialist Republic (PFSR
. The United Socialist States of America (USSA)
. The Social Democracy of Linistea (SDL)
. The Most Serene Republic of Avenio (MSRA)
. The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR)

Former Member list (15)

. The Communist Federated Union of the Nuclear Fist (CFUNF)
. The United Socialist States of Shrillland (USSS)
. The Joint-Interest Cooperative of Bentietum (JICB)
. The Fourth Republic of Polska Rzeczpolspolita (FRPR)
. The Republic of the Warsaw Vanguard (RWV)
. The Socialist Republic of British Kuwait (SRBW)
. The United Socialist States of Soviet Shlyapy (USSSS)
. The Zizek Trilemma of Honourable Angels (ZTHA)
. The Democratic Socialist Republic of North Orus (DSRNO)
. The Free Land of the New Congo Republic (FLNCO)
. The Juche-Socialist Korean Union (JSKU)
. The United Socialist States of Ebana (USSE)
. The Greater Korean Republic (GKR)
. The Democratic Republic of The Union of Myanmar (DRUM)
. The Social Democratic Republic of Kosmanium (SDRK)

Probationary Members List (6)

. The People's Republic of Timpetotia (PRT)
. The People's Republic of Repac (PRP)
. The Confederacy of Terran Soviet States (CTSS)
. The Soviet Republic of Ea90 (SRE)
. L'etats Socialistes Unis de Capisaria (LSUC)
. The United Socialist States of Yuktova (USSY)

Observers List (5)

. The Mystical and Magical Realms of the Beatus (MMRB)
. The Federal Republic of Pennsylvania (FRP)
. The Most Royal And Holy Empire of St George of England (MRHESGE)
. The Socialist Republic of Hahklallah (SRH)
. The Constitutional Monarchy of Mytannion (CMM)


OOC: Yes, we're back again. Here is a link to our alliance forum. Activity on it is essential to this alliance. Also, as I'm unsure which former members are interested, we will be starting with a clean slate. Former members will need to put in a application like everyone else.
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Postby Osea 767 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:03 am

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Postby Concordeia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:53 pm

Full nation name: The Commonwealth of Concordeia
Population: ~2.3 billion
National leader's title: Chief of State Robert Dacosta
Type of Political system: Participatory Representative Democracy
Type of Economic System: Mixed Market (Social Democracy)
Current wars?(if any): Parthian-Kahanistani War
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Postby The Beatus » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:14 pm

Official Message

To the Serovskya Pact,

While we do not subscribe to the socialist economic theory, we do believe that it takes different strokes to move the world. To that end, we wish to foster cordial relationships with nations off all types. We wish to request observer status in this organization, so as to better relate, and understand our Socialist brothers. Should we be accepted, we hope for this to be the first in many steps towards a peaceful world, populated not with capitalists and socialists, but with people, of all kinds and socioeconomic beliefs, where one not need to fear revealing their true economic leanings, and where wars are fought over mineral rights and diplomatic faux pas , not economic theories.
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Postby Osea 767 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:16 pm

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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: The Commonwealth of Concordeia
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We are pleased to say that your application has been accepted Welcome to the Serovskaya Pact.

Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Acting Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs



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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: The Theocratic Republic of The Beatus
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

Your interest in improved rations with us is delightful news. We will therefore accept your application for observer status. If more nations were as tolerant as yours, the world would surely be a better place.

Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Acting Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs



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Postby The Grand World Order » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:32 pm

Official Response of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order


It appears that yet another War Council has been established to murder, rape, and enslave the innocent peoples of the Federation, its allies, and many more Enlightened states.

We hereby submit the following excerpt as proof, as a preemptive against Communist objections:

In turn, the members of the Serovskaya Pact declare their unshakable support for Socialist ideals, proletarian internationalism and for implacable defence of our enlightened ideals against the forces of bourgeois ideology, anti-socialists and the agents of imperialism and similarly regressive ideologies.


The Serovskaya Pact's preamble is all the justification we require to immediately declare this alliance defunct. This declaration will be enforced by the Unified Federal Armed Forces of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order, as per the Causes for National Defense of the Federation Against Hostile International Coalition Procedures, which permit the aforementioned Federal Armed Forces to utilize any and all force they can muster to eliminate this threat against GWO sovereignty.
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Postby Union Soviet Socialist » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:01 pm

Offical Communique of the Federal Soviet Duma of the Soviet Socialist Union

It has come to our attention that as the "Fascist Enlightenment" can see no moral limitations on the battlefield, it can also see no restraint of its hypocrisy on the political landscape as they can call a peaceful alliance of Leftist ideals a council for "murder, rape, and enslave"-ment when they only defend those who commit genocide on other peoples based on political ideology. I myself could see the way they describe this alliance as merely themselves plastering their image unto those they see as heretics to their ideals. When will their people rise to see how they have been fooled into thinking that their society is just when they have traded all freedom for the mere feeling of safty from the unknown as they fear and demonize the Left political field as the Devil's playground. When will the world turn its glaze from their pits of bliss and notice that the natural urges of our race have grown out of proportion as to manifest itself into the oppressed nation of the Grand World Order who smites those who object to their ideals merely to keep their ideology alive and their economy growing. As the World is unwilling to notice this, it is left to those who are under the threat from such nations as the Grand World Order to elimnate this threat, the Socialist nation of Osea is a prime example of the threatened nations and if they can stand alone against them then the world will no longer have to fear the manifestation that is the Grand World Order. We assert this alliance as a true defender of the human mind as it encourages those who wish for equality to unite against those who are against equality in their attempts enrich themselves at the expense of those they mindlessly conquer in the name of their "Fascist Enlightenment". We wish to say to Osea that they should not stand down but fight as we are to ensure that the people within both of bot of our borders are able to think freely and thus be able to advance into a more civil society where we are unable to merely fight amoungst ourselves but to solve their differences by debate and dialoge in an unviolent manner that those in the Fascist Federation are unable to do so but only feel the cold, hard boots of their oppressors upon their necks tightening ever more until they finally sofficate from their unwillingness to fight back against their self-proclaimed masters.
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Postby Osea 767 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:59 pm

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Official Osean Communique


Message Encription Level: 5
To: Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order
From: Council of Ministers, Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

Ah, we'd forgotten about you. How have things been for you?

Seriously, we say that we will defend ourselves if attacked and you use this to justify declaring war on us. This is absurd to the extreme. It appears that you no longer bother finding reasons now, and merely ramble a bit before arbitarily declaring war on nations. Perhaps there is some logic behind this. We do not care enough to try and see what that is.

So, let us get to the heart of the issue. You desire the dismatling of our alliance, despite the fact that it is not threatening to you. Only a fool would assume you would ever accept peace with us, simply based on your nations history. You will attempt to destroy us anyway, so we say no to your demands. Our rivers will run red with the blood of your soldiers will flow before we ever surrender to the likes of you. If you send soldiers to the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea, we will kill them all. That is the reality of the situation.

So, what are you going to do next?



Signed,
Eric Ruhle,
Premier of the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

Co-signed by,
Mihail Kalinnikov,
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Postby The Beatus » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:42 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Official Response of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order


It appears that yet another War Council has been established to murder, rape, and enslave the innocent peoples of the Federation, its allies, and many more Enlightened states.

We hereby submit the following excerpt as proof, as a preemptive against Communist objections:

In turn, the members of the Serovskaya Pact declare their unshakable support for Socialist ideals, proletarian internationalism and for implacable defence of our enlightened ideals against the forces of bourgeois ideology, anti-socialists and the agents of imperialism and similarly regressive ideologies.


The Serovskaya Pact's preamble is all the justification we require to immediately declare this alliance defunct. This declaration will be enforced by the Unified Federal Armed Forces of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order, as per the Causes for National Defense of the Federation Against Hostile International Coalition Procedures, which permit the aforementioned Federal Armed Forces to utilize any and all force they can muster to eliminate this threat against GWO sovereignty.

Official Response

We thank the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order, for their long winded ramblings on this subject. It is always good to hear from nations with which relations transpire in the past. However, it is depressing, when it is under such circumstances as these. While it is none of our business to muddle in the sovereign affairs of other nations, we can't help but notice that the leadership of the Fascist Federation seems to be exhibiting warning signs of Alzheimer's Disease.

It is always regrettable to see yet another poor soul begin his decent into such a bleak place. However, we do wish to remind the leadership of the Fascist Federation, that early detection is key, and urge them to seek treatment immediately. Make every effort to preserve what time you have left.

On another note, we are more than willing to let these words slip by, quite understanding the illness that has gripped the Fascist Federation's leadership. We hope they seek treatment, if only to prevent similar misunderstandings in the future.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:42 pm

Osea 767 wrote:
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Official Osean Communique


Message Encription Level: 5
To: Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order
From: Council of Ministers, Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

Ah, we'd forgotten about you. How have things been for you?

Seriously, we say that we will defend ourselves if attacked and you use this to justify declaring war on us. This is absurd to the extreme. It appears that you no longer bother finding reasons now, and merely ramble a bit before arbitarily declaring war on nations. Perhaps there is some logic behind this. We do not care enough to try and see what that is.

So, let us get to the heart of the issue. You desire the dismatling of our alliance, despite the fact that it is not threatening to you. Only a fool would assume you would ever accept peace with us, simply based on your nations history. You will attempt to destroy us anyway, so we say no to your demands. Our rivers will run red with the blood of your soldiers will flow before we ever surrender to the likes of you. If you send soldiers to the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea, we will kill them all. That is the reality of the situation.

So, what are you going to do next?



Signed,
Eric Ruhle,
Premier of the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

Co-signed by,
Mihail Kalinnikov,
Chief of the Soviet General Staff



Official Communique of the Fascist Federation


"Defense" is just a veil for war, including aggressive war. Ever wonder why so many nations changed their "Departments/Ministries of War" into ones of Defense?

Threatening us was not well within your interests. Now, you have threatened our youth with genocide. This is far more than simple defense of nation interests now, Mr. Ruhle. No, this is where it becomes a personal matter between you and every father and mother in the nation.

We will see to it that you, personally, are punished for your crimes, both against us and humanity. Your cries for mercy will go unappeased, the only response being a reminder of this day, where you threatened to make rivers of blood flow from our children. You will be reminded of how proud, how confident you were when the Federation peacefully approached.

If we didn't have a reason before, we certainly do now. Of course, we really don't need one in the first place- in the end, it will be our boots separating your mandible from your maxilla.


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Offical Communique of the Federal Soviet Duma of the Soviet Socialist Union

It has come to our attention that as the "Fascist Enlightenment" can see no moral limitations on the battlefield, it can also see no restraint of its hypocrisy on the political landscape as they can call a peaceful alliance of Leftist ideals a council for "murder, rape, and enslave"-ment when they only defend those who commit genocide on other peoples based on political ideology. I myself could see the way they describe this alliance as merely themselves plastering their image unto those they see as heretics to their ideals. When will their people rise to see how they have been fooled into thinking that their society is just when they have traded all freedom for the mere feeling of safty from the unknown as they fear and demonize the Left political field as the Devil's playground. When will the world turn its glaze from their pits of bliss and notice that the natural urges of our race have grown out of proportion as to manifest itself into the oppressed nation of the Grand World Order who smites those who object to their ideals merely to keep their ideology alive and their economy growing. As the World is unwilling to notice this, it is left to those who are under the threat from such nations as the Grand World Order to elimnate this threat, the Socialist nation of Osea is a prime example of the threatened nations and if they can stand alone against them then the world will no longer have to fear the manifestation that is the Grand World Order. We assert this alliance as a true defender of the human mind as it encourages those who wish for equality to unite against those who are against equality in their attempts enrich themselves at the expense of those they mindlessly conquer in the name of their "Fascist Enlightenment". We wish to say to Osea that they should not stand down but fight as we are to ensure that the people within both of bot of our borders are able to think freely and thus be able to advance into a more civil society where we are unable to merely fight amoungst ourselves but to solve their differences by debate and dialoge in an unviolent manner that those in the Fascist Federation are unable to do so but only feel the cold, hard boots of their oppressors upon their necks tightening ever more until they finally sofficate from their unwillingness to fight back against their self-proclaimed masters.
Sincerly,
Supreme Soviet Yosif Palevnikov, Head Speaker of the Federal Soviet Duma of the Soviet Socialist Union



Official Communique of the Fascist Federation


The leftists in our nation did try to rebel en masse a few times, actually. The worst was the Magna Polis Uprising, which led to 18 million Federation citizens being murdered. Perhaps you chaps would be interesting in studying GWO history, particularly when the Liberty Confederation was still on our metaphorical radar. There, you will see the true face of Communist Revolution, just look past the piles of heads, bombed hospitals, and 12-year-old pregnant rape victims.

As for our nation being incapable of civilized and intelligent debate, that is far from true. In fact, we do not pursue censorship, because we have an elite corps of Orators ready to intelligently destroy the points of Communism. However, the intentionally ignorant, such as the political leaders of your nation, are part of the Great Problem. Our "cold hard boots" are just part of the Solution, specifically for the Communists toting AK-47s at home or abroad.

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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:18 am

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Official Osean Communique


Message Encription Level: 5
To: Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order
From: Council of Ministers, Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

What, more rambling? Are your writers payed for each word they type. You have managed to say very little using many words.

Your whole message was a steaming pile of crap. Defence means Defence, which all need since you are ready to declare war for no reason than a desire to murder us all. It is what you have always done, except you normally try to create a more convincing argument that what you did to us.

As for us supposing committing to genocide, all we said it that we will kill your soldiers if you try to invade us. It is better to use overwhelming force against an invader, otherwise they will more likely return again. I'm sure you would do the same if we actually had any interest in invading you. In fact, you had slipped from our minds until you had contacted us.

Peace offerings from you are a joke, as they require that the other nation be completely ignorant of your nature. Peace is not what you really want. So, let us end the pointless words here. You have delivered your threat, so try and act on them rather than send us more of your telegrams. We do not need any more toilet paper.



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Postby Concordeia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:02 am

To: The Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order
From: the Executive Office of the Commonwealth of Concordeia

I concur with Premier Ruhle. Either put up or shut up. Either way, stop wasting our time.

Signed,
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:48 am

The Great Celtic Federation of Ceannairceach
From: Grand Chancellor Markus Lindon
To: Whom it may concern of the Serovskaya Pact and Grand World Order
Subject: GWO and SP Dealings
Encryption Status: Open Message

Ah, once again the ultra-Fascists and the Commu-Socialists butt heads in, not only a conflict of ideology, but one of rhetoric. Just so you all are aware, I am currently laughing and clapping at the idiocy of this whole thing.

First off, directed to the Sero-Pact(shortened in my inability to keep spelling the damnable thing), your response to the both justified and unjustified rantings of the GWO leadership is simply against all I hear of your kind. Let a river of blood flow? How does this promote peace and equality? Where is the acceptance I hear so much from socialists? Nowhere, to be exact. Nowhere. Truthfully, if the GWO wished to invade you, he would have already. His forces would have raised that rather nice flag over your capital already. But he hasn't. Yet. But you threatened him, and provoked the giant. Prodding a bull is not a good idea, friend. It is my belief that they would have forgotten you in time. Or when more Commu-Socialists arrived in your support.

Now, to Grand World Order. Let me first say I am a strong admirer of your work. To reign in a population so large under a Fascistic state is quite amazing, and I source you and your regime as one of my inspirations. Now, with that out, I wish to point out the faults with your response to this Commu-Socialist play group. I understand your laws which essentially make it legal to invade socialist and communists at will, as such to your people is acceptable cassus belli, but you must see that such is not acceptable to others. While I am confident--nay, sure as my life depends on it that you could defeat them, but what is the point? If this alliance works out like those in the past, it will destroy itself. And while I can understand how that part in the preamble can be interpreted as against anti-socialists in general, but you must admit its a poor excuse. Your people used to strike fear into the hearts of Commu-Socialists with a simple message, one with actual reasoning for attack! Where is that nation that I so love and admire?

Ah well. My words mean nothing when not heard, and barely anything when heard. Best of luck to both of you should war break out. I shall send roses to the winner, and a casket to the destroyed.

Good day,
Markus A. Lindon

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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:04 pm

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Official Osean Communique


Message Encryption Level: 5
To: The Great Celtic Federation of Ceannairceach
From: Council of Ministers, Soviet Socialist Union of Osea

First, I must ask how you got hold of our messages to the Grand World Order. They were encrypted after all. Perhaps you received copies from the Grand World Order, or perhaps you are spying on us. No matter. You have sent us your message and I will reply

The Grand World Order is irrelevant to us. As we said in our messages, we had no thoughts concerning the Order till they sent us their threats of annihilation. They are the ones who called for war. All we have done is maintained our right to our own affairs and informed the Grand World Order that we will use the level of force needed to ensure they do not attack us again. Since when was that a crime. Neither are your proclamations of us to be "Prodding a bull" justified. We have the means to throw back the invasion they are probably preparing to launch right now.

You also speak of acceptance in your message. So, I shall end this with the following question. If a man came to your door and threatened to kill you if you do not do as he says, would you consider yourself unaccepting if you told that man that you would not obey his orders and instead will defend your home with all means at your disposal?

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Postby United States of PA » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:14 pm

To: The Leadership of the Grand World Order
From: President Andrew Hundley, Vice President Levi Smith, Secretary of Defense William Petraeus, Speaker of the House Jackson Curtiss, General of the Armed Forces John Sheppard, and the Pennsylvanian Republic

Through various means that we cannot disclose at the moment, we have received words of your recent discussions of attack on the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea, and its pact, the Serovskaya Pact.

We must say that it takes a weak country, and a weak alliance, to attack a Friendship and cooperation pact, a very weak nation.

There is a saying here within my nation “The Brutal ones are the cowards”. We must say that this saying fits your nations of savages and cowards quite well.

We have decided beforehand that we will not waste our time with a lengthy response and/or letter, and will therefore sum up what we would’ve said otherwise in the following sentence:

Attempt to invade the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea, and the entire combined military prowess of the Region of Greater Dienstad, including such Military Entities as the Lyran Protectorate, the Free Republic of Lamoni, the Empire of the Golden Throne, and the Dictatorial Republic of Sumer, will respond with their entire Military Capability, and will not hesitate to deploy Thermonuclear Weapons in both Offensive and Defensive Nature.

Take this into consideration, for we know that no one wants it to come to this, but we will not hesitate to turn your invading forces into Vapor.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:25 pm

Full nation name: The Communist Federated Union of the Nuclear Fist
Population: 1.038 billion
National leader's title:
-Short: Supreme Chairman
-Long: Supreme Chairman, Head Councilman of the Council of Chief Marshals of the 7 Socialist republics of the Federated Union, supreme commander of the Ground forces, supreme admiral of the Naval forces, and chief admiral of the Air forces, Minister of the Serbiocroati Socialist Republic, Minister of the Georganian Socialist Republic, Head of the Board of Ministers of the Bosniakezegov Socialist Republic, Overseeing Director of the State Committee of Macedon Socialist Republic, Head Minister of the Monteslav Socialist Republic, Conducător of the Rustonian Socialist Republic, Leader of the Icelakjevelik Socialist Republic, Defender of the Communist Ideal, Friend of the Proletariat, and Guardian of the people.
Type of Political system: Parliamentary Limited Representative Democracy
Type of Economic System: Nationalist Communism (Titoism)
Current wars?(if any): N/A
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): Not technically a military alliance, but The Global Communist Bloc could count as one.
Additional Information that you wish to add: The Parliamentary Proletarian Committee finds it rather disturbing that any form of Communism is excluded from such an alliance. Maoism and Stalinism are not inherently oppressive, and must be treated as such. Although nations claiming to participate in Maoism or Stalinism should be thoroughly observed, they should be given the benefit of the doubt that they are not oppressing the proletarian of their nation.
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Postby Hungarian Regions » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:42 pm

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National leader's title: Prime Minister Schmitt
Type of Political system: Parliamentary Democracy
Type of Economic System: Market Socialism
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Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any):None
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:49 pm

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To: The Communist Federated Union of the Nuclear Fist
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We are pleased to say that your application has been accepted. We welcome you as the newest member of the Serovskaya Pact. As for your remark, we wish to note that Stalinism is by its nature defined as dictorial, while Mao himself admired Stalin. Maoism as practised by Mao was also responsible for causing needless suffering amost his own people.

Putting this point aside, we again welcome you as our friend to this alliance.

Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Acting Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs



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To: The Republic of Hungarian Regions
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We will make a decision on your application soon.

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Postby Rusikstan » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:50 pm

((I some how lost track of this…))

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Population: 2.149 billion
National leader's title: Premier // President
Type of Political system: Premier-Presidential Federal Republic
Type of Economic System: Socialist Market Economy
Current wars?(if any): N/A
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): Rusikstan Prosperity Sphere (Inner-Regional National Alliance)
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:57 pm

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To: The Grand Proletariat State of Rusikstan
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

What a lovely surprise it is to see an application from you. Naturally, it has been accepted and we gladly welcome you back to the SP.

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Postby Union Soviet Socialist » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:04 pm

Full nation name: Communist Union of the Union Soviet Socialist (otherwise known as the Soviet Socialist Union)
Population: 2.387 Billion
National leader's title: Premier of the Soviet Socialist Union
Type of Political system: Limited Communist Democracy
Type of Economic System: Nationially Planned, Government Controlled
Current wars?(if any): Internal Affair Conflict
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): None, ex-FSSR
Additional Information that you wish to add: The Soviet Socialist Union has had a long history of conflict with Fascist or extreme-Right Wing groups and nations. Fascism is entirely banned within the Union and has lead to conflict with foreign nations who forcefully objected to the Act passed by the Federal Soviet Duma.
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:15 pm

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To: The Communist Union of the Union Soviet Socialist
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We are pleased to say that your application has been accepted. Welcome to the Serovskaya Pact.

Sincerely,
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Postby Sebastianalandia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:20 pm

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Full nation name: The United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia
Population: 3.7 billion
National leader's title:
-Short: Vozhd of the United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia
-Long: By the Will of the Sebastianalandian People and their Constitution, Vozhd of the United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia. - By the Tradition of the Sebastianalandian Armed Forces and in the Spirit of the Defence of the Revolution, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. - By the Power Invested by the Revolutionary Communist Party of Sebastianalandia, General-Secretary of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Party Congress of the Communist Party of Sebastianalandia.
Type of Political system: Authoritarian Semi-Unitary Parliamentary Single-Party Social Republic
Type of Economic System: Co-operative Socialism (Titoism) combined with elements of central planning
Current wars?(if any): None
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): COMINTERN (is probably defunct), the Workers' Pact (probably defunct)
Additional Information that you wish to add:
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:42 pm

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To: The United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We would be more than willing to accept you as a member of the Serovskaya Pact. However, we would like to ask what the meaning of the "Authoritarian" part of the name of your political system is. Could you please provide information to enlighten us on this matter?

Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Acting Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs
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Postby Sebastianalandia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:48 pm

Osea 767 wrote:
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To: The United Socialist States of Sebastianalandia
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskaya Pact

We would be more than willing to accept you as a member of the Serovskaya Pact. However, we would like to ask what the meaning of the "Authoritarian" part of the name of your political system is. Could you please provide information to enlighten us on this matter?

Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Acting Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs


The Authoritarian refers to the relatively powerful executive that wields power that is, by the standards of the average republic, "authoritarian". However, this power is wielded exclusively within the context of national law and the Constitution (which are determined by the democratically-elected people's Soviets).
Soldaten, Kameraden, kämpft alle für Euer Vaterland und die ruhmreiche Revolution, die es verkörpert!
Milites, Amici, decertate pro patria revolutioque pro qua designat!
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Saighdiúirí, Chomrádaithe, troid do dó thír agus an réabhlóid ghlórmhar a léiríonn sé!
Cabinet:
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