El Cargotá: Latin American Political RP [OOC|OPEN]

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Ah, alright. Although, I would note, the president would not only need the assembly to keep his prime minister, but also to get his legislation passed. Of course, the Indigenous Party is not required for a normal majority, but could be instrumental for a 2/3rds majority required for constitutional amendments. So, it would be profitable for the president both to placate the Indigenous Front, while also promoting the left wing of the party (instead of the more nationalistic and violent right wing) and having someone on his side who is a socialist in all but name.

But, if you say the president is more inclined to keep loyalists on his council, that’s completely understandable. If that’s the case, I think I’d rather go for a somewhat corrupt finance minister.

Would this finance minister be open to a $6 million "gift" to make them join the Liberals when the time comes? Perhaps a luxury yacht on top of that...

[Rentandy]

Ah, alright. Although, I would note, the president would not only need the assembly to keep his prime minister, but also to get his legislation passed. Of course, the Indigenous Party is not required for a normal majority, but could be instrumental for a 2/3rds majority required for constitutional amendments. So, it would be profitable for the president both to placate the Indigenous Front, while also promoting the left wing of the party (instead of the more nationalistic and violent right wing) and having someone on his side who is a socialist in all but name.

But, if you say the president is more inclined to keep loyalists on his council, that’s completely understandable. If that’s the case, I think I’d rather go for a somewhat corrupt finance minister.

Would this finance minister be open to a $6 million "gift" to make them join the Liberals when the time comes? Perhaps a luxury yacht on top of that...

*taking notes*

No, go on. Don't mind me!

[Kargintina the Third]

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[Dayganistan]

I might see about doing a journalist character, depending on how prominent they and their publication are then they could have some wide reaching effects on the government. If not that, maybe a National Police inspector in the financial crime department who as a result would come into contact with corrupt politicians and launch cases against them.

[Aureumterra]

I might see about doing a journalist character, depending on how prominent they and their publication are then they could have some wide reaching effects on the government. If not that, maybe a National Police inspector in the financial crime department who as a result would come into contact with corrupt politicians and launch cases against them.

We already have similar characters, and I’m worried we’re getting too many non-politicians, so I may have to limit that for now

[Aureumterra]

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His rhetoric regarding foreign influence will be his biggest strength

[Kargintina the Third]

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His rhetoric regarding foreign influence will be his biggest strength

Are you gonna do polls like showing how well candidates are doing?

[Aureumterra]

His rhetoric regarding foreign influence will be his biggest strength

Are you gonna do polls like showing how well candidates are doing?

Once primaries for all parties start, yes

[Grand Bangouthia]

The National Government of El Cargotá

Name: Rodrigo Vulerio
Position in government: Maj. General of the 2nd Mechanized Division
Political Party: Apolitical, but a former Liberal
Race: Spanish celtic
Religion: Catholic
Gender: Male
Age: 61
General Political Ideology: A former liberal party member, he beliefs the state/provincial governments should have more say over the federal government. But now, as a military man, and more importantly, a Commanding officer he finds it unproper for a General to voice his political opinions and that General officers should refrain in case of inspiring false intentions by their words.
Character intentions: Defend the Constitution of El Cartoga and her people from all threats. Foreign and domestic. Serve the officers appointed over him and follow the commands of his Commander and Chief, as long as lawful.

Biography: (At least two paragraphs, in depth)
Born in Caitadó. His father a former member of the Cartgao military as well. Vulerio grew up on the stories of the heroic soldiers of the past. As a child he lived on the streets after his father had died in the war. His mother abandoned him since she could no longer support him. As a teenager he enlisted in the ranks to fight in 5th Jungle Infantry. Having served valiantly. Following Primos and Walshes example, he climed the officers ladders. Walsh was raising to the joint-chiefs. Primo departed after capping out as a Colonel and moving to the Ministry of Defense. He was apart of the old outfit. He knew it. The oldguard as it was. The men of his caliber were far and few between. And they were quickly dying off. Not many like Walsh and Primo left. But Vulerio was damned to give them both a run for their money. He often mused if this is what it was like in the CSA army in the American Civil War. A brotherhood of valor. Yet the political climate forced them apart. Vulerio held distaste for the false unity he saw amongst the Assembly and the President. It was clear to him that they only needed a spark before Walsh ordered men like his 2nd Division to march into Bartago and put down the revolts. Or worse, his own Caitado. Primo was just the man to light that fuse if Taffa wanted a Civil War so bad. Would it be arrogance or a thirst for power that would see his country be torn by war.


Until then, gladly he remained in the rank and file. Becoming a Brigadier General over the 2nd Division of Caitado. He learned in the United States well. Reading and constantly reorganizing how the military worked. Seeing the modernization taking place with air cavalry, Vulerio helped implement these ideas in his own 2nd Division. After his commander retired, Vulerio was promoted once again to his current post as the Major General of the 2nd Mechanized of Caitado. His unit stood, in his own huberous, as the best damn division in the whole army. The 5th Jungle Infantry was transferred to his command upon his implementing the new changes to the Division. Vulerio hoped for the promotion to a lieutenant general so he might command the entire 1st army corp. But if that promotion came with crushing his brothers from the old outfit. could he do it? Would he do it?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Are you gonna do polls like showing how well candidates are doing?

Once primaries for all parties start, yes

You can just smell the liberal coup in the water - the head of the military and police chief are both liberals, whilst Kalinsky is one of the richest men on the continent and has the ear of the CIA.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Would this finance minister be open to a $6 million "gift" to make them join the Liberals when the time comes? Perhaps a luxury yacht on top of that...

*taking notes*

No, go on. Don't mind me!

Fine, 50 million for you. Now, please, just shut up and cooperate.

[Kargintina the Third]

Once primaries for all parties start, yes

You can just smell the liberal coup in the water - the head of the military and police chief are both liberals, whilst Kalinsky is one of the richest men on the continent and has the ear of the CIA.

I thought civil wars aren’t allowed?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Ah, alright. Although, I would note, the president would not only need the assembly to keep his prime minister, but also to get his legislation passed. Of course, the Indigenous Party is not required for a normal majority, but could be instrumental for a 2/3rds majority required for constitutional amendments. So, it would be profitable for the president both to placate the Indigenous Front, while also promoting the left wing of the party (instead of the more nationalistic and violent right wing) and having someone on his side who is a socialist in all but name.

But, if you say the president is more inclined to keep loyalists on his council, that’s completely understandable. If that’s the case, I think I’d rather go for a somewhat corrupt finance minister.

Would this finance minister be open to a $6 million "gift" to make them join the Liberals when the time comes? Perhaps a luxury yacht on top of that...

A yacht sounds nice, yes...

[Aureumterra]

You can just smell the liberal coup in the water - the head of the military and police chief are both liberals, whilst Kalinsky is one of the richest men on the continent and has the ear of the CIA.

I thought civil wars aren’t allowed?

Yeah, no coups, both the police chief and the military is liberal leaning, but loyal to the republic

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I believe it's because authleft characters aren't really that fun to play as tbh.

I’ll allow second characters once things get going, I think people would want a second one on the other side

EDIT: Also, most leftists in Latin America IRL are Authleft

Not really, aside from FARC, most of them are libleft. Evo Morales, that guy in Ecuador, Dilma Rousseff...

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I thought civil wars aren’t allowed?

Yeah, no coups, both the police chief and the military is liberal leaning, but loyal to the republic

Wait, how are we supposed to operate then? Just let the PDP keep handing total shit to us?

EDIT: I mean, if you're going for an RP in a quasi/full dictatorship, then maybe you should allow coups and violence, since that's the only way the opposition can gain power.

[Rentandy]

Yeah, no coups, both the police chief and the military is liberal leaning, but loyal to the republic

Wait, how are we supposed to operate then? Just let the PDP keep handing total shit to us?

EDIT: I mean, if you're going for an RP in a quasi/full dictatorship, then maybe you should allow coups and violence, since that's the only way the opposition can gain power.

This isn't a dictatorship. It's still a democracy, albeit a flawed one.

And I don't know if I'd exactly call Garza a liberal...

[Cylarn]

Walsh only associates with the Liberals on occasion. He hardly votes outside of principle, never attends political rallies or donates money, and he certainly endorses no one.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Wait, how are we supposed to operate then? Just let the PDP keep handing total shit to us?

EDIT: I mean, if you're going for an RP in a quasi/full dictatorship, then maybe you should allow coups and violence, since that's the only way the opposition can gain power.

This isn't a dictatorship. It's still a democracy, albeit a flawed one.

And I don't know if I'd exactly call Garza a liberal...

Liberalism is economic outside of the USA, so I think we're fine.

And winning elections in El Cargota is like trying to win the House of Representatives if every single seat was gerrymandered for the opposing party.

It's theoretically possible, but, well...

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Walsh only associates with the Liberals on occasion. He hardly votes outside of principle, never attends political rallies or donates money, and he certainly endorses no one.

Yeah, but being ideologically close to liberalism makes you easier to bribe.

And the more power my allies have, the easier it is to rig election results.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Yeah, no coups, both the police chief and the military is liberal leaning, but loyal to the republic

Wait, how are we supposed to operate then? Just let the PDP keep handing total shit to us?

EDIT: I mean, if you're going for an RP in a quasi/full dictatorship, then maybe you should allow coups and violence, since that's the only way the opposition can gain power.

Like things work in a democracy. Work towards election. Try winning over cities and control the narrative.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

This isn't a dictatorship. It's still a democracy, albeit a flawed one.

And I don't know if I'd exactly call Garza a liberal...

Liberalism is economic outside of the USA, so I think we're fine.

And winning elections in El Cargota is like trying to win the House of Representatives if every single seat was gerrymandered for the opposing party.

It's theoretically possible, but, well...

Liberalism is economical as well as political outside the US. It’s as much about the rule of law as it is about capitalism.

[Kargintina the Third]

Liberals running a billionaire with US connections just gives Topo free ammo to say the Libs want to sell the country out to the USA

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Wait, how are we supposed to operate then? Just let the PDP keep handing total shit to us?

EDIT: I mean, if you're going for an RP in a quasi/full dictatorship, then maybe you should allow coups and violence, since that's the only way the opposition can gain power.

Like things work in a democracy. Work towards election. Try winning over cities and control the narrative.

I mean, again, it's like winning the House of Representatives when every district is gerrymandered against you, your voters are forced to travel twice the time and go through more hurdles than the opposite voters, but alright.

The legitimate route won't work. Kalinsky will work towards strong-arming, election tampering and subversive behaviour.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Liberals running a billionaire with US connections just gives Topo free ammo to say the Libs want to sell the country out to the USA

He can frame it as "Hey, look, TRADE DEALS!"

And tbh, he's probably not running. He's going to find a suitable puppet, influence his policies, do some campaigning for him and bankroll his campaign.

He'll work to subvert the ruling party as much as possible with CIA help, and hopefully reduce their election chances from 99% to 50%.