by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:05 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Galloism » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:15 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:18 pm
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:18 pm
Galloism wrote:I'm going to ignore all the hysteria and cut straight to the heart of the matter.
What centralized board of directors will represent "religion" in the suit? Who are the common owner(s) of "religion" that you could sue it/them?
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Ifreann » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:20 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Is there any hope of a lawsuit against religion for all the deaths it has caused?
by Galloism » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:20 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Galloism wrote:I'm going to ignore all the hysteria and cut straight to the heart of the matter.
What centralized board of directors will represent "religion" in the suit? Who are the common owner(s) of "religion" that you could sue it/them?
Clergy in the different churches. Catholicism, protestantism, orthodoxy, etc...
...would it need to be targeted at a specific denomination?
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:26 pm
Galloism wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Clergy in the different churches. Catholicism, protestantism, orthodoxy, etc...
...would it need to be targeted at a specific denomination?
Yes, you can't sue religion just like you can't sue conservatism or liberalism.
There's a lack of common ownership and control, which is needed for an entity to be one entity (and therefore a legal "person"), and only legal persons can be named in court suits.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:28 pm
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by Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:29 pm
Galloism wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Clergy in the different churches. Catholicism, protestantism, orthodoxy, etc...
...would it need to be targeted at a specific denomination?
Yes, you can't sue religion just like you can't sue conservatism or liberalism.
There's a lack of common ownership and control, which is needed for an entity to be one entity (and therefore a legal "person"), and only legal persons can be named in court suits.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Pacomia » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:32 pm
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:36 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This thread reminds me of the plot of the Indian movie OMG, where the main character, after his anti-religious behavior and losing his livelihood in an earthquake, and being told by his insurance that his policy wouldn’t pay for “acts of God”, decides to sue all Gods. And where does the lawsuit goes to? To every religious institution in India: Hindu, Catholic (Christian), and Muslim.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:37 pm
Pacomia wrote:You can't sue an idea.
The idea of suing religion is ridiculous- how would that even work? Besides, religion in general isn't the problem, it's extremism.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Risottia » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:37 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Galloism wrote:Yes, you can't sue religion just like you can't sue conservatism or liberalism.
There's a lack of common ownership and control, which is needed for an entity to be one entity (and therefore a legal "person"), and only legal persons can be named in court suits.
Fair enough, then.
So what of the notion of "simultaneous" lawsuits against the leaders of different denominations, such that they can't hide behind the "why are you suing only us and not them" platitude?
by Purgatio » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:37 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This thread reminds me of the plot of the Indian movie OMG, where the main character, after his anti-religious behavior and losing his livelihood in an earthquake, and being told by his insurance that his policy wouldn’t pay for “acts of God”, decides to sue all Gods. And where does the lawsuit goes to? To every religious institution in India: Hindu, Catholic (Christian), and Muslim.
Pfft, that sounds amusing as hell. I can almost imagine the bewilderment on the priests'/imams'/clergies' face when they receive the lawsuit.
On the topic itself, no? Religion is a set of ideas and so on depending on the definition and since it doesn't manifest physically, I don't think it can be sued. The closest thing is as in Nana's quote, the institutions themselves but....Idk.
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by Ayytaly » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:48 pm
by Tinhampton » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:53 pm
>>> "2015 Global Peace Index" passed off as accurate indicator of global violence rates in 2020LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Meanwhile in the real world, the correlation is clear.
https://mbbnet.ahc.umn.edu/scmap.htmlLimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Parkinson's or diabetes or cancer. Embryonic stem cell research could've cured them if not for religion holding it back.
by Deacarsia » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:56 pm
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by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:58 pm
Purgatio wrote:Vatican City in any national court would be barred under State immunity
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:59 pm
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