2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

[Ethel mermania]

Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.

California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.

NAh, the media wants bernie, the polls will predict his victory.

[Necroghastia]

California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.

NAh, the media wants bernie, the polls will predict his victory.

...Since when did the media want Bernie?

[Ifreann]

California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.

NAh, the media wants bernie, the polls will predict his victory.

Why would the media want Sanders?

[Jerzylvania]

NAh, the media wants bernie, the polls will predict his victory.

Why would the media want Sanders?

Next punching bag?

[Aureumterra]

Well, Sanders just got hit with the reality hammer

[Sougra]

Well, Sanders just got hit with the reality hammer

What specifically are you referring to, if I may?

[Sougra]

Why would the media want Sanders?

Next punching bag?

I think they'd rather have someone they like as President, fits their political views, and also doesn't threaten their livelihoods in certain ways.

[Cannot think of a name]

Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.

California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.

If we listened to our senators Harris would still be in the race.

[Bear Stearns]

lmao

[Jerzylvania]

Bernie Sanders ...has been issued a cease and desist from Flavor Flav...

[Ethel mermania]

NAh, the media wants bernie, the polls will predict his victory.

Why would the media want Sanders?

The us media is about 25% as left as you, And he got screwed out of it in 2016

[Ifreann]

Why would the media want Sanders?

The us media is about 25% as left as you,

Individual journalists might be, but I have trouble believing that the media corporations that employ them are anything except profit driven.

And he got screwed out of it in 2016

So?

[Hakons]

If you want a moderate, Biden seems to be the only choice going forward. Because of proportional representation, voting Biden even when he won't win in your state still helps him get more delegates.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar don't have much national support. Bloomberg is a Sanders foil, an ex-Republican, and would lose 1-on-1. The only moderate with national support, the only moderate that could take in most of Bloomgerg's, Steyer's, Klobuchar's, and Buttigieg's support is Biden. This is how I see it. Moderates and liberals should rally around Biden as soon as possible, unless they want socialism on their ticket.

After capitalism gave us Trump, why wouldn't they want socialism on their ticket?

Because they're moderates and liberals? They're still firmly supportive of capitalism. Think of the voters that have been trending Democratic: highly educated suburbans. Why would this professional class want socialism, when they're doing so well under capitalism? Think of social conservatives in the party. Why would they want a revolutionary candidate so opposed to traditional American systems? If Sanders is the nominee, I think Republicans can make an effective argument of how damaging socialist policies would be to America society and the economy. This would be even more effective if Republicans hadn't spent the last decade calling everything mildly social democratic socialist. If Republicans hammered Sanders on what he actually means by socialism, he would have to either renounce socialism or be unelectable.

[United States of Devonta]

Bernie Sanders ...has been issued a cease and desist from Flavor Flav...

Lol, I think it's only one half of Public Enemy

[South Odreria 2]

538 now gives a 60% chance that no candidate will win a majority of delegates.

[Cisairse]

Sigh. I said I'd make a choice after South Carolina, didn't I? Can I get an extension?
I also said right after Iowa that I wouldn't choose to endorse anyone who didn't get delegates in all four February states. That only leaves Biden and Bernie.
Oh well.

I'm now begrudgingly endorsing Bernie Sanders in the primary, and will try to advocate on his behalf to my colleagues. I am very worried about Biden's support of the TPP and similar trade deals — both for their destructive impact on Americans, and also that his support of them will likely prove to be a major challenge to retaking the Rust Belt in November. Mr. Sanders has a much more working class centered policy slate, and while he would never be my first choice in this race, he seems to be America's best change right now to actually move towards economic equality and a worker-oriented economy. I will vote (D) in the general election no matter what, but if Mr. Sanders wins the nomination I will actively consider helping out with the campaign. My state is not a contest (it's too late in the primary to matter at all, and its Cook PVI makes is a no-op in November), but I would happily donate and maybe textbank.

I would just like to reiterate that I say begrudgingly for a reason — Mr. Sanders is really my second choice among those still in the race, and my fourth or fifth choice among everyone who ran. But I gave myself strict standards for who I will consider supporting for a reason, and I fully believe that Mr. Sanders is the compromise candidate that I can be most happy with.

[Thermodolia]

Did anyone expect differently?

Debbie Wassermann-Schultz (D-FL) and disgraced DNC chair endorsed him too.

The lady who rigged it for Clinton endorsed Biden. I’m shocked I tell you shocked

[Thermodolia]

YouGovUS/CBSNewsPoll

California:

Sanders 31%
Biden 19%
Warren 18%
Bloomberg 12%
Buttigieg 9%
Klobuchar 4%

Texas:

Sanders 30%
Biden 26%
Warren 17%
Bloomberg 13%
Klobuchar/Buttigieg 6%

(Poll Conducted Feb 27-29)

YouGov has been pretty heavy on Warren this cycle, that could explain her high numbers.

Positive view on:

Texas:

Socialism 56 (+19)
Capitalism 37

California:

Socialism 57 (+12)
Capitalism 45

(CBS News/YouGov poll of Dem voters)

That's good for Sanders if true ^^

That’s interesting it doesn’t even seem like Biden really got much of a bump in Texas

[Ifreann]

Debbie Wassermann-Schultz (D-FL) and disgraced DNC chair endorsed him too.

The lady who rigged it for Clinton endorsed Biden. I’m shocked I tell you shocked

No doubt this will be a huge boon to Biden.

[United States of Devonta]

Sigh. I said I'd make a choice after South Carolina, didn't I? Can I get an extension?
I also said right after Iowa that I wouldn't choose to endorse anyone who didn't get delegates in all four February states. That only leaves Biden and Bernie.
Oh well.

I'm now begrudgingly endorsing Bernie Sanders in the primary, and will try to advocate on his behalf to my colleagues. I am very worried about Biden's support of the TPP and similar trade deals — both for their destructive impact on Americans, and also that his support of them will likely prove to be a major challenge to retaking the Rust Belt in November. Mr. Sanders has a much more working class centered policy slate, and while he would never be my first choice in this race, he seems to be America's best change right now to actually move towards economic equality and a worker-oriented economy. I will vote (D) in the general election no matter what, but if Mr. Sanders wins the nomination I will actively consider helping out with the campaign. My state is not a contest (it's too late in the primary to matter at all, and its Cook PVI makes is a no-op in November), but I would happily donate and maybe textbank.

I would just like to reiterate that I say begrudgingly for a reason — Mr. Sanders is really my second choice among those still in the race, and my fourth or fifth choice among everyone who ran. But I gave myself strict standards for who I will consider supporting for a reason, and I fully believe that Mr. Sanders is the compromise candidate that I can be most happy with.

I understand it might be hard, but you made the right choice. Thank you for your support of Bernie Sanders and welcome to the Revolution. NotMeUS means something here. It's not just a saying.

If you wanna know more info on how to phone or text bank, and/or canvass, I'd download the Bern App. And yes, make sure to talk to as many people as possible about Bernie. I'm already talking to my family and friends about the primary.

[Cisairse]

Sigh. I said I'd make a choice after South Carolina, didn't I? Can I get an extension?
I also said right after Iowa that I wouldn't choose to endorse anyone who didn't get delegates in all four February states. That only leaves Biden and Bernie.
Oh well.

I'm now begrudgingly endorsing Bernie Sanders in the primary, and will try to advocate on his behalf to my colleagues. I am very worried about Biden's support of the TPP and similar trade deals — both for their destructive impact on Americans, and also that his support of them will likely prove to be a major challenge to retaking the Rust Belt in November. Mr. Sanders has a much more working class centered policy slate, and while he would never be my first choice in this race, he seems to be America's best change right now to actually move towards economic equality and a worker-oriented economy. I will vote (D) in the general election no matter what, but if Mr. Sanders wins the nomination I will actively consider helping out with the campaign. My state is not a contest (it's too late in the primary to matter at all, and its Cook PVI makes is a no-op in November), but I would happily donate and maybe textbank.

I would just like to reiterate that I say begrudgingly for a reason — Mr. Sanders is really my second choice among those still in the race, and my fourth or fifth choice among everyone who ran. But I gave myself strict standards for who I will consider supporting for a reason, and I fully believe that Mr. Sanders is the compromise candidate that I can be most happy with.

I understand it might be hard, but you made the right choice. Thank you for your support of Bernie Sanders and welcome to the Revolution. NotMeUS means something here. It's not just a saying.

If you wanna know more info on how to phone or text bank, and/or canvass, I'd download the Bern App. And yes, make sure to talk to as many people as possible about Bernie. I'm already talking to my family and friends about the primary.

We'll see how Super Tuesday and the rest of the primary goes. I'll start more actively exploring how I could help out if Sanders becomes the presumptive nominee.

A decent amount of my friends and immediate family support Bernie, but my SO is a Pete supporter so I have my work cut out for me already

[United States of Devonta]

I understand it might be hard, but you made the right choice. Thank you for your support of Bernie Sanders and welcome to the Revolution. NotMeUS means something here. It's not just a saying.

If you wanna know more info on how to phone or text bank, and/or canvass, I'd download the Bern App. And yes, make sure to talk to as many people as possible about Bernie. I'm already talking to my family and friends about the primary.

We'll see how Super Tuesday and the rest of the primary goes. I'll start more actively exploring how I could help out if Sanders becomes the presumptive nominee.

A decent amount of my friends and immediate family support Bernie, but my SO is a Pete supporter so I have my work cut out for me already

What state do you live in btw? Is it Bernie friendly?

[Cisairse]

We'll see how Super Tuesday and the rest of the primary goes. I'll start more actively exploring how I could help out if Sanders becomes the presumptive nominee.

A decent amount of my friends and immediate family support Bernie, but my SO is a Pete supporter so I have my work cut out for me already

What state do you live in btw? Is it Bernie friendly?

Hillary Clinton won my state by 26 points in the 2016 primary; 538 says that Bernie is leading here right now, but not by much (47% chance of victory vs 41% for Biden). Of course, because my state is so late in the primary there is very little relevant polling to judge from, and it's more or less impossible for my state to be a deciding factor (either someone will already have a majority of pledged delegates, or it will be obvious that no candidate will).

The demographics of my state are definitely favorable to Joe Biden, and is one of the reasons why Clinton won so handily in 2016. Of course, the major reason for Clinton's victory was that she was already the presumptive nominee which meant that turnout for Sanders was lackluster anyway.

[Aureumterra]

Well, Sanders just got hit with the reality hammer

What specifically are you referring to, if I may?

South Carolina. So far, he was in the idealistic leftist bubble

[Cisairse]

What specifically are you referring to, if I may?

South Carolina. So far, he was in the idealistic leftist bubble

Mr. Sanders spent much of the weekend in Texas. How is that an idealistic leftist bubble?