by Bombadil » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:00 pm
by USS Monitor » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:12 pm
by The Free Joy State » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:29 pm
by Galloism » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:30 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:30 pm
by Geneviev » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:33 pm
by Bombadil » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:45 pm
Geneviev wrote:This isn't really the media's fault. They need to give people what they want in order to survive, and this is the sort of thing we want. Our culture has become so obsessed with fame that we clearly don't seem to have any problem with intruding in anyone's life and forming an opinion about it because they're famous. To change the media, we would have to change that first.
by Farnhamia » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:48 pm
Bombadil wrote:Geneviev wrote:This isn't really the media's fault. They need to give people what they want in order to survive, and this is the sort of thing we want. Our culture has become so obsessed with fame that we clearly don't seem to have any problem with intruding in anyone's life and forming an opinion about it because they're famous. To change the media, we would have to change that first.
I think we've become obsessed with judging people, which has extended to judging anything and everyone.. Jon Ronson wrote a good book called 'So you've been publicly shamed', where even those not seeking fame suddenly become widely reviled entirely out of context.
However consciously seeking fame thinking it's a good thing.. in this day and age, people need to be really really careful about what they wish for. Beyond that it starts one to consider the morality of child fame, or any parent pushing their child to be famous. Seems littered with tragedy.
by Geneviev » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:50 pm
Bombadil wrote:Geneviev wrote:This isn't really the media's fault. They need to give people what they want in order to survive, and this is the sort of thing we want. Our culture has become so obsessed with fame that we clearly don't seem to have any problem with intruding in anyone's life and forming an opinion about it because they're famous. To change the media, we would have to change that first.
I think we've become obsessed with judging people, which has extended to judging anything and everyone.. Jon Ronson wrote a good book called 'So you've been publicly shamed', where even those not seeking fame suddenly become widely reviled entirely out of context.
However consciously seeking fame thinking it's a good thing.. in this day and age, people need to be really really careful about what they wish for. Beyond that it starts one to consider the morality of child fame, or any parent pushing their child to be famous. Seems littered with tragedy.
by The Free Joy State » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:00 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I think we've become obsessed with judging people, which has extended to judging anything and everyone.. Jon Ronson wrote a good book called 'So you've been publicly shamed', where even those not seeking fame suddenly become widely reviled entirely out of context.
However consciously seeking fame thinking it's a good thing.. in this day and age, people need to be really really careful about what they wish for. Beyond that it starts one to consider the morality of child fame, or any parent pushing their child to be famous. Seems littered with tragedy.
I think, Eldest, that people have always judged others, it's just that our ability to do so has been greatly enhanced.
by Radiatia » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:04 pm
by Imperial Joseon » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:13 pm
Albrenia wrote:I'd never want to be famous. Wealth and power would be nice, but not fame.
Particularly in our toxic age of social media.
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by Katganistan » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:30 am
Geneviev wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I think we've become obsessed with judging people, which has extended to judging anything and everyone.. Jon Ronson wrote a good book called 'So you've been publicly shamed', where even those not seeking fame suddenly become widely reviled entirely out of context.
However consciously seeking fame thinking it's a good thing.. in this day and age, people need to be really really careful about what they wish for. Beyond that it starts one to consider the morality of child fame, or any parent pushing their child to be famous. Seems littered with tragedy.
Child fame gets really dangerous once it interferes with being a child. I think that causes a lot of the problems as well. The parents who do those things almost look abusive at times.
by Urlendia » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:06 am
by Ifreann » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:33 am
by Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:47 am
by Saiwania » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:03 am
by Geneviev » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:11 am
Katganistan wrote:Geneviev wrote:Child fame gets really dangerous once it interferes with being a child. I think that causes a lot of the problems as well. The parents who do those things almost look abusive at times.
If you read accounts by former child actors, there is a lot of abuse going on. Not all actors of course but -- some never wanted to be there, some had their entire earnings taken from them, some were flat out abused.... some were put on drugs to make them lose weight....
There should be a lot of people looking VERY closely at child actors' lives making sure they're as on board as their folks are.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:39 am
by Galloism » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:59 am
Ifreann wrote:Inspiring to see that when someone has been driven to suicide, NSG concludes that it is her own fault for working in television in the first place. That's what one gets for chasing fame, apparently.
The fact he’s taken his own life proves his guilt. He’s massively fucked up somewhere & didn’t want to face the consequences
by Galloism » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:25 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I have no idea who the dead person is and have no idea why they killed themselves. Anyone who aspires to fame should prepare themselves mentally and monetarily. You will have stalkers. You will get threats. You will be criticized. You will be vilified. You will lose friends and family.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:55 am
Galloism wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I have no idea who the dead person is and have no idea why they killed themselves. Anyone who aspires to fame should prepare themselves mentally and monetarily. You will have stalkers. You will get threats. You will be criticized. You will be vilified. You will lose friends and family.
Basically, and keep in mind this is all allegedly, she was snooping in his phone and found text messages that she interpreted as him cheating while he was asleep.
Then she took a lamp and started beating him in the head with it.
He fought her back and called police, whereupon they showed and found them both covered in blood, saying that, and I quote the prosecutor "Both were covered in blood and in fact one of the police officers likened the scene to a horror movie."
Then she flipped over a table while in custody and had to be restrained.
So the crown prosecution service charged her, sheposted bail, and then almost immediately violated the conditions of her bail by contacting the victim.
And the internet being what it is, people started harassing her over it.
Then she committed suicide.
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