[DRAFT] Reduce Abortions Act

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:48 am

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Strong

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the act of Abortion to be both morally wrong and heinous,

Noting that thousands, maybe millions, of infants are killed everyday by this act,

Hereby,

Proposes to limit all abortions by nearly 50%.

by **Marxist Germany** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:53 am

"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:54 am

Marxist Germany wrote:"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

I do not understand.

by **BlackLight Covenant** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:55 am

OOC: pretty sure the right to abortion has been guaranteed by a previous resolution that was passed with a notable majority. While I don't know whether this would contradict with that (although I think it would, considering how this would restrict that freedom to have an abortion), I can already tell you that stating that you're aiming to outright ban abortion later down the line will result in this getting gunned out of the sky almost instantly should it ever reach the voting floor. That you call abortions morally wrong won't help, either.

The WA is notably pro-abortion, or rather, pro- the right to have an abortion as one chooses.

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:56 am

BlackLight Covenant wrote:OOC: pretty sure the right to abortion has been guaranteed by a previous resolution that was passed with a notable majority. While I don't know whether this would contradict with that (although I think it would, considering how this would restrict that freedom to have an abortion), I can already tell you that stating that you're aiming to outright ban abortion later down the line will result in this getting gunned out of the sky almost instantly should it ever reach the voting floor. That you call abortions morally wrong won't help, either.

The WA is notably pro-abortion, or rather, pro- the right to have an abortion as one chooses.

That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

by **The Brytish Isles** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:57 am

Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

by **Marxist Germany** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:57 am

Legolannd wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

I do not understand.

"I believe it is illegal for contradicting GA#286 Reproductive 'Freedoms', ambassador."

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:58 am

The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

by **Bears Armed** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:59 am

Legolannd wrote:
The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

by **Bears Armed** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:00 am

Legolannd wrote:
The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

OOC
The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

Proposal Rules: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
Passed Resolutions (searchable thread): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:01 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Legolannd wrote:Abortion is not a right.

OOC
The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

Proposal Rules: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
Passed Resolutions (searchable thread): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

Again, it's not a right.

by **BlackLight Covenant** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:02 am

Legolannd wrote:
BlackLight Covenant wrote:-snipping my own post to save space-

That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

by **San Andrreas** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:03 am

I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.

Abortion=Murder

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:04 am

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Legolannd wrote:That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

by **Outboundstagnate** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:05 am

San Andrreas wrote:I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.

Abortion=Murder

(OOC) That is a moral argument, not one bound in concrete facts.

by **BlackLight Covenant** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:06 am

Legolannd wrote:
BlackLight Covenant wrote:
OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

OOC: Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:08 am

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Legolannd wrote:Why? Because people are heartless killars?

Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

by **Galactic Republicc** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:09 am

Legolannd wrote:
BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

Exactly right.

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:10 am

Outboundstagnate wrote:
San Andrreas wrote:I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.

Abortion=Murder

(OOC) That is a moral argument, not one bound in concrete facts.

No, it is a FACT. You kill the fetus, you are a murderer.

by **The Brytish Isles** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:11 am

The only possible way of passing this or any other proposal is to repeal GA#286 and replace it with another piece of WA legislation. However many, many others have attempted to repeal GA#286 and every attempt has failed. It is a waste of time attempting to repeal it.

by **Outboundstagnate** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:12 am

Legolannd wrote:
BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

by **Legolannd** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:12 am

Outboundstagnate wrote:
Legolannd wrote:Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

by **The Legendary** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:14 am

Legolannd wrote:
BlackLight Covenant wrote:
OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

"Liberty above all" - My nation's motto.
In my nation it's up to individuals to decide,the government has no say in the matter - for liberty.

by **The Brytish Isles** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:14 am

Legolannd wrote:
Outboundstagnate wrote:
(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

Non-human member states constitute a notable percentage of WA membership. These same non-human majority member-states remain committed to GA#286 and abide by WA rulings.

by **Outboundstagnate** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:15 am

Legolannd wrote:
Outboundstagnate wrote:
(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

(OOC) That is philisophical.

[DRAFT] Reduce Abortions Act

[DRAFT] Reduce Abortions Act

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