Has atheism made the world a better place?

[Satuga]

I'll quote Karl Marx here: "Religion is opium for the people"

You realize Marx meant that as a sort of compliment to religion, right?

I thought marx was against religion?

[Panslav]

I'll quote Karl Marx here: "Religion is opium for the people"

You realize Marx meant that as a sort of compliment to religion, right?

Not really, he meant that Religion can be used to manipulate people.

[Hakons]

That's a disgusting analogy

Disgusting, yet so true.

The propegation of my religion isn't comparable to child rape. It's a disgusting analogy that can only be maintained by internet anonymity. Would you say such a repulsive thing in front of your parents, your neighbors, your children?

[United Muscovite Nations]

You realize Marx meant that as a sort of compliment to religion, right?

I thought marx was against religion?

Marx was, but in the context of that quote, he is using Opium in the sense of a painkiller, not in the sense of a narcotic.

[Geneviev]

No. The world can only be made a better place by equality and protection of human dignity. Neither religion nor atheism can accomplish that.

[United Muscovite Nations]

You realize Marx meant that as a sort of compliment to religion, right?

Not really, he meant that Religion can be used to manipulate people.

No he wasn't, lol, read Marx.

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

[Satuga]

Disgusting, yet so true.

The propegation of my religion isn't comparable to child rape. It's a disgusting analogy that can only be maintained by internet anonymity. Would you say such a repulsive thing in front of your parents, your neighbors, your children?

It's not literal child rape it's still an analogy about not preaching your religion to everyone and anyone.

[Alvecia]

Disgusting, yet so true.

The propegation of my religion isn't comparable to child rape. It's a disgusting analogy that can only be maintained by internet anonymity. Would you say such a repulsive thing in front of your parents, your neighbors, your children?

I would actually. My mum would probably laugh.

[Antityranicals]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

[Geneviev]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

That's not necessarily accurate. Although atheism hasn't made the world a better place, it has been incredibly beneficial to individual people.

[Panslav]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

"Ladies and gentlemen, religion is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that atheism made the world a better place, but Religion has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield."

I think you meant this, right?

[The Emerald Legion]

The propegation of my religion isn't comparable to child rape. It's a disgusting analogy that can only be maintained by internet anonymity. Would you say such a repulsive thing in front of your parents, your neighbors, your children?

It's not literal child rape it's still an analogy about not preaching your religion to everyone and anyone.

Is there a reason you shouldn't?

[Hakons]

The propegation of my religion isn't comparable to child rape. It's a disgusting analogy that can only be maintained by internet anonymity. Would you say such a repulsive thing in front of your parents, your neighbors, your children?

It's not literal child rape it's still an analogy about not preaching your religion to everyone and anyone.

What if I don't want you to teach secular morality to my children? Is that a similar situation? Why do you single out religious belief, when society imposes morality on every child? Further, why is it wrong to teach good morality. Would it be analogous to child rape if a child was taught that murder is wrong?

[Antityranicals]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

"Ladies and gentlemen, religion is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that atheism made the world a better place, but Religion has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield."

I think you meant this, right?

Not at all. The idea that the universe came to be without a cause is simply senseless. Claiming that you don't know much about that cause is respectable, that is the position of deism. But to claim that it has no cause is simply daft.

[Satuga]

It's not literal child rape it's still an analogy about not preaching your religion to everyone and anyone.

Is there a reason you shouldn't?

Because people get annoyed to shit when you push shit onto them.

[Antityranicals]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

That's not necessarily accurate. Although atheism hasn't made the world a better place, it has been incredibly beneficial to individual people.

Whom, exactly, has atheism benefitted?

[Chan Island]

Atheism has proliferated apostasy from the truth of religion. This alone makes it a negative effect on society, and more importantly it is deadly to heavenly society. Atheism destroys the joy of souls.

And yet on average the non-religious are happier than the religious according to surveys.

And what truth? The one about an angry old man in the sky who will throw you into a burning pit for eternity because one time you smoked pot or you didn't quite sing his praises in the right way? Or the one about how God will only ever interact with his creations through his chosen (surprisingly often very rich and powerful) representatives- who often are the most psychotic, greedy, corrupted and uncaring specimens that humanity has to offer?

No. The world can only be made a better place by equality and protection of human dignity. Neither religion nor atheism can accomplish that.

But religion has become a default refuge and excuse for those who seek to justify inequality or destroying human dignity.

[Geneviev]

"Ladies and gentlemen, religion is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that atheism made the world a better place, but Religion has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield."

I think you meant this, right?

Not at all. The idea that the universe came to be without a cause is simply senseless. Claiming that you don't know much about that cause is respectable, that is the position of deism. But to claim that it has no cause is simply daft.

There are scientific explanations of the cause.

[Duvniask]

Not really, he meant that Religion can be used to manipulate people.

No he wasn't, lol, read Marx.

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

I think they might be referring to the view of religion as false consciousness, which seems to be a fairly accurate interpretation of Marx.

[Satuga]

What if I don't want you to teach secular morality to my children? Is that a similar situation? Why do you single out religious belief, when society imposes morality on every child? Further, why is it wrong to teach good morality. Would it be analogous to child rape if a child was taught that murder is wrong?

Did I say atheists could do it? No i didn't. Also you can teach good morality without religion, its not a religious exclusive thing you know.

[Alvecia]

That's not necessarily accurate. Although atheism hasn't made the world a better place, it has been incredibly beneficial to individual people.

Whom, exactly, has atheism benefitted?

Yo

[United Muscovite Nations]

No he wasn't, lol, read Marx.

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

I think they might be referring to the view of religion as false consciousness, which seems to be a fairly accurate interpretation of Marx.

Then they're misphrasing it badly.

[Panslav]

It's not literal child rape it's still an analogy about not preaching your religion to everyone and anyone.

What if I don't want you to teach secular morality to my children? Is that a similar situation? Why do you single out religious belief, when society imposes morality on every child? Further, why is it wrong to teach good morality. Would it be analogous to child rape if a child was taught that murder is wrong?

Religion preaches about things that probably don't exist, atheism doesn't. Religion is a postive claim, atheism (as a whole) isn't. Religion wastes your time on useless things like prayer, atheism doesn't.

[Satuga]

Ladies and gentlemen, Atheism is a meritless delusion which defies all sense and restricts the mind, plain and simple. There is an argument to be made that deism made the world a better place, but Atheism has dulled the minds of generations, and must be fought and killed on the intellectual battlefield.

Lmao sure dude.

[Chan Island]

That's not necessarily accurate. Although atheism hasn't made the world a better place, it has been incredibly beneficial to individual people.

Whom, exactly, has atheism benefitted?

Me? I was a totally miserable sod when I dabbled in belief.

Also when should I point out that the list of the least religious places on Earth overlaps pretty well with the list of the most prosperous, equal and cohesive societies on Earth?