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Postby Britanania » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:58 pm

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Britanania wrote:This is interesting, but I do have a few questions that were not entirely answered through the Q&A nor the Lore page.

1. Historically, Latin and Roman culture, in general, persisted in Britain until after the total subjugation by the Saxon. You mentioned that the Britons went back to their old ways, but I'm assuming Latin and the nascent British Roman language still exist?

2. What are the absolute limits on magical abilities? I'm not asking about being able to call fire from the heavens but is this closer to how magic works in Lord of the Rings, which is more "technology" based? You mentioned artefacts but does that exclude small conjuration?

3. At least one character is a female warrior. What are the limits of female knights?


Thanks for the questions, I'll add these answers to the Q & A as well.

1. What I meant by "the old bad ways' after Arthur's death was back to individual kingdoms acting in their own self interest first as opposed to the interest of all Britons as they had done under the leadership of Arthur. Under Arthur the Britons were united under his rule and while each kingdom was separate they were united to the cause of protecting each other. After Arthur is gone that central leader figure is left void and so the kingdoms drift apart. I mention that Powys skirmishes with Dummonia from time to time over the right to get tribute from a chain of smaller kingdoms between them, and the political rivalry with Gwynned and Rheged. Those are examples of what I meant. The Latin is still widely spoken among the upper classes of Briton society but its died out among the commoners save where its become part of the Brythonic lexicon.

2. I'm still trying to decide what kind of limits I'm placing on magic... I might restrict the use of conjuring to NPCs, but I will grant the players use of magic by finding enchanted artifacts from Pre-Roman and Arthurian times when I think its appropriate. The Sword of Peace is an artifact that will show up VERY early for example, but someone would need to earn the right to be worthy of it through RP. The sword White Hilt, and Arthur's invisibility cloak are also potential artifacts.

3. There is no requirement for any of the characters to be a knight. Celtic society in general was rather more permissive to women than Rome was as things went and while it may be a stretch, for the sake of RP I'm allowing it permissible for a woman to be a warrior, especially if she can keep her own.

Thanks for answering my questions, that claifies alot. I do have a final question: I have an idea of making twins as characters, would that be permissible?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Britanania wrote:
SaintB wrote:
Thanks for the questions, I'll add these answers to the Q & A as well.

1. What I meant by "the old bad ways' after Arthur's death was back to individual kingdoms acting in their own self interest first as opposed to the interest of all Britons as they had done under the leadership of Arthur. Under Arthur the Britons were united under his rule and while each kingdom was separate they were united to the cause of protecting each other. After Arthur is gone that central leader figure is left void and so the kingdoms drift apart. I mention that Powys skirmishes with Dummonia from time to time over the right to get tribute from a chain of smaller kingdoms between them, and the political rivalry with Gwynned and Rheged. Those are examples of what I meant. The Latin is still widely spoken among the upper classes of Briton society but its died out among the commoners save where its become part of the Brythonic lexicon.

2. I'm still trying to decide what kind of limits I'm placing on magic... I might restrict the use of conjuring to NPCs, but I will grant the players use of magic by finding enchanted artifacts from Pre-Roman and Arthurian times when I think its appropriate. The Sword of Peace is an artifact that will show up VERY early for example, but someone would need to earn the right to be worthy of it through RP. The sword White Hilt, and Arthur's invisibility cloak are also potential artifacts.

3. There is no requirement for any of the characters to be a knight. Celtic society in general was rather more permissive to women than Rome was as things went and while it may be a stretch, for the sake of RP I'm allowing it permissible for a woman to be a warrior, especially if she can keep her own.

Thanks for answering my questions, that claifies alot. I do have a final question: I have an idea of making twins as characters, would that be permissible?

Perhaps a descendant of Sir Balin? He carried two swords, they could carry one of those each.
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Postby Kaledoria » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:17 am

NS Name: Kaledoria
Character Name: Niall Mac Ewan Ní Bhrún
Culture: Scottish Gael
Gender: male
Lineage and Biography:
Niall's Lineage can be traced back to his Great-Great-Grandfather Esclanor the Black, a soldier-of-fortune and self-proclaimed Hedge-Knight who grew up in the aftermath of the Roman withdrawal a good hundred years ago.

While little is known about Esclanor, his son Sir Brunor was a well-known man, called "the Good Knight Without Fear", he was named King of Estrangore by King Uther but was murdered just a few years after this (in 495), after which the title was contested and ultimately was not inherited by his family.

His son, also named Sir Brunor, with the epithet "the Black" avenged his father and ultimately became a Knight of the round table under Athur and Lord of Pendragon Castle after he and Lancelot conquered it back from the villainous Sir Brian. He died in 531 of old age.

Sir Brunor's second son (And Niall's father) was Sir Ewan, who brought the Blood Feud between his father and Sir Brian into the second generation. After a failed assassination attempt on his father's life, Evan traveled to the Isle of Man and ultimately to Dál Riata. The two sons of Sir Brian were responsible for the attempt and in 518 Ewan's quest was successful, he had vanquished them both. Moreover, on his journey he had also met young King Comgall and fell in love with his sister Sorcha. While she was technically above his peerage, Ewan court-shipped Sorcha for a year and through his persistence (and much convincing by Lady Sorcha, who returned his love and warded off all other suitors) Ewan finally got Comgall's permission to marry the princess in return for an oath of vassalage.

Niall was born two years later and followed his father's footsteps, becoming a squire at the age of 15 and was knighted at age 18, earlier then usual due to getting battlefield experience in Comgall's campaign in the north. The campaign proceeded well for two years, as the Picts were currently disorganized and the tribes in the west received no help from the stronger tribes to the east. But it came to a sudden stop, when Comgall was ambushed and killed by some Picts. His brother Gabran succeeded Comgall to the throne and stopped expansion in favor of securing the lands so far conquered. It was also Ewan's last war, while the old knight survived, he lost his leg below the knee in the same skirmish in which his king died. He was taken prisoner but Niall rescued him on a mission to recover Comgall's corpse from the Picts.

For his valor and sacrifice (and probably to a degree due to the success of his son), Ewan was made Toisech (=thegn) of Caer Breadhaig, a hill-fort on the Isle of Arran by King Gabran. Niall decided to travel to Castle Pendragon, that he had last visited 9 years ago to the funeral of his grandfather Brunor, to tell his uncle Dinadan the younger (who now rules over it) of his father's new title (and maybe to find a lady of his own, the courtship situation in Dál Riata is a bit sparse at the moment).

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Gambeson, long maille byrnie, Spangenhelm with a nose-guard and iron cheek-flaps, thick cloth gloves and trousers, leather bracers and boots, over-tunic in his new family tartan
Fighting spear (2-handed, tough enough for swinging), Celtic Sword (Pattern-welded), Shield (Black oval shield with white hand holding sword, replica of replica of his grandmother's shield), quiver w. 5 javelins, sling with 12 sling-stones, Dagger
His horse Acha, large sattlebags, simple sattle
Bag of Caltrops, pocket knife, hammock, blankets, 5 sq-ft linen cloth, tarpaulin, rations, waterskin, rope, grapple hook, personal utensils (soap, comb, ...), everyday tools (needle&thread, prongs and spare rings for maille-fixes, small hammer, spade), flint-stone and tinderbox, torch, pan, pot, cutlery, some coins, firewood, hay, spare clothes (simple outdoor, cold weather, decent looking tunic), clean bandages in waxed bag

Notes:
- Niall was raised tri-lingual, Gaelic being his primary language, Britonic, the native language of his father secondary and Pictish, the language of many of the common folk under the rule of the Scots on the Greater British Isle tertiary. Sometimes he mixes up words from the wrong language when speaking in one of the later two.
- Niall follows the old faith but respects Christians
- Friend of Tarnist Conall of Dál Riata




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Postby SaintB » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:18 pm

Britanania wrote:
SaintB wrote:
Thanks for the questions, I'll add these answers to the Q & A as well.

1. What I meant by "the old bad ways' after Arthur's death was back to individual kingdoms acting in their own self interest first as opposed to the interest of all Britons as they had done under the leadership of Arthur. Under Arthur the Britons were united under his rule and while each kingdom was separate they were united to the cause of protecting each other. After Arthur is gone that central leader figure is left void and so the kingdoms drift apart. I mention that Powys skirmishes with Dummonia from time to time over the right to get tribute from a chain of smaller kingdoms between them, and the political rivalry with Gwynned and Rheged. Those are examples of what I meant. The Latin is still widely spoken among the upper classes of Briton society but its died out among the commoners save where its become part of the Brythonic lexicon.

2. I'm still trying to decide what kind of limits I'm placing on magic... I might restrict the use of conjuring to NPCs, but I will grant the players use of magic by finding enchanted artifacts from Pre-Roman and Arthurian times when I think its appropriate. The Sword of Peace is an artifact that will show up VERY early for example, but someone would need to earn the right to be worthy of it through RP. The sword White Hilt, and Arthur's invisibility cloak are also potential artifacts.

3. There is no requirement for any of the characters to be a knight. Celtic society in general was rather more permissive to women than Rome was as things went and while it may be a stretch, for the sake of RP I'm allowing it permissible for a woman to be a warrior, especially if she can keep her own.

Thanks for answering my questions, that claifies alot. I do have a final question: I have an idea of making twins as characters, would that be permissible?

Some other people here have two characters so I cannot prevent you from doing so.
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Postby Britanania » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:45 pm

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Postby Kyraina » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:31 pm

Britanania wrote:NS Name: Brit
Character Name: Duke Gaius Cadorius and Duchess Cadoria of Cerniw, the grandchildren of Cador, Arthur's cousin
Culture: Latinised Britons
Gender: Male and Female, respectively
Biography: Gaius and Cadoria are the twin grandchildren of Duke Cador of Cerniw, by Cador's son Constantine. Following Arthur's death, Constantine was given rule over the whole of Briton, and whilst he reigned nobly and Arthur's ideals lived through Constantine, they were not enough to prevent total war from breaking out in Britain.

Gaius and Cadoria were born a year after Arthur's death at Constantine's capital Caer Uisc and dubbed the Duke and Duchess of Cerniw as heirs to the throne of Dummonia. As twins are a rare occasion, the seers noted that the pair would hold not only a special bond but a special destiny. The twins were raised in the old Roman style by Constantine's courtiers, and they had hopes that perhaps, due to their mystic nature, the twins could be magical practitioners. In addition to their classical education, both Gaius and Cadoria were trained in the arts of war in preparation for the long campaigns that followed the collapse of Arthur's rule.

The twins have, since their teens, participated in wars against Powys and the Saxon invaders and are known for their ferocity in combat, and in particular, have fought primarily in the Welsh Quagmire, as their father spends his time fighting in the East. On the field of battle, Gaius and Cadoria fight as a pair, Cadoria with her war axe and Gaius with his hasta, and on occasion, a spatha. As a unit, they are a deadly force that serves as both a boost of morale to their soldiers and dread to their enemies. Outside of battle, Gaius is a gregarious storyteller and bard, famous for his dark sense of humour and his knowledge of the old tales, while Cadoria is more reserved and bookish, another rarity.

As the wars in Wales continue to drag, and the invading Saxons growing ever stronger, however, the twins seek a way to break the stalemate.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33058085#p33058085

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Gaius' Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Mail cuirass
Ridge helmet
Late scuta
Hasta
Spatha
Mount

Cadoria's Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Bronze muscle cuirass
Late scuta
War axe

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As far as i know Arthur was the last king to rule over Britain, and the kingdom immediately fell with his death, splittinf into several smaller kingdoms
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is suppose to go here?

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Postby Britanania » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:34 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Britanania wrote:NS Name: Brit
Character Name: Duke Gaius Cadorius and Duchess Cadoria of Cerniw, the grandchildren of Cador, Arthur's cousin
Culture: Latinised Britons
Gender: Male and Female, respectively
Biography: Gaius and Cadoria are the twin grandchildren of Duke Cador of Cerniw, by Cador's son Constantine. Following Arthur's death, Constantine was given rule over the whole of Briton, and whilst he reigned nobly and Arthur's ideals lived through Constantine, they were not enough to prevent total war from breaking out in Britain.

Gaius and Cadoria were born a year after Arthur's death at Constantine's capital Caer Uisc and dubbed the Duke and Duchess of Cerniw as heirs to the throne of Dummonia. As twins are a rare occasion, the seers noted that the pair would hold not only a special bond but a special destiny. The twins were raised in the old Roman style by Constantine's courtiers, and they had hopes that perhaps, due to their mystic nature, the twins could be magical practitioners. In addition to their classical education, both Gaius and Cadoria were trained in the arts of war in preparation for the long campaigns that followed the collapse of Arthur's rule.

The twins have, since their teens, participated in wars against Powys and the Saxon invaders and are known for their ferocity in combat, and in particular, have fought primarily in the Welsh Quagmire, as their father spends his time fighting in the East. On the field of battle, Gaius and Cadoria fight as a pair, Cadoria with her war axe and Gaius with his hasta, and on occasion, a spatha. As a unit, they are a deadly force that serves as both a boost of morale to their soldiers and dread to their enemies. Outside of battle, Gaius is a gregarious storyteller and bard, famous for his dark sense of humour and his knowledge of the old tales, while Cadoria is more reserved and bookish, another rarity.

As the wars in Wales continue to drag, and the invading Saxons growing ever stronger, however, the twins seek a way to break the stalemate.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33058085#p33058085

Possessions:

Gaius' Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Mail cuirass
Ridge helmet
Late scuta
Hasta
Spatha
Mount

Cadoria's Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Bronze muscle cuirass
Late scuta
War axe

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As far as i know Arthur was the last king to rule over Britain, and the kingdom immediately fell with his death, splittinf into several smaller kingdoms

In Le Morte d'Arthur Malory makes reference that Constantine was Arthur's regent when the latter went to fight the Romans and was his successor. By the time the RP starts, two decades later, Constantine does not have control over Briton, per the OP and I make no claim that he does, only that he was Arthur's heir.
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Postby Kyraina » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Britanania wrote:
Kyraina wrote:As far as i know Arthur was the last king to rule over Britain, and the kingdom immediately fell with his death, splittinf into several smaller kingdoms

In Le Morte d'Arthur Malory makes reference that Constantine was Arthur's regent when the latter went to fight the Romans and was his successor. By the time the RP stars, two decades later, Constantine does not have control over Briton, per the OP and I make no claim that he does, only that he was Arthur's heir.

Aye that may be the case but SaintB, The OP, hasnt said anything on who the heir or regent was after the fall of Arthur. I'm not denying, as i could as im a co-op, as im leaving that to Saint im just pointing something out that wasnt explicitly stated by the OP himself
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Postby Britanania » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:47 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Britanania wrote:In Le Morte d'Arthur Malory makes reference that Constantine was Arthur's regent when the latter went to fight the Romans and was his successor. By the time the RP stars, two decades later, Constantine does not have control over Briton, per the OP and I make no claim that he does, only that he was Arthur's heir.

Aye that may be the case but SaintB, The OP, hasnt said anything on who the heir or regent was after the fall of Arthur. I'm not denying, as i could as im a co-op, as im leaving that to Saint im just pointing something out that wasnt explicitly stated by the OP himself

SaintB cited Le Morte d'Arthur as the source and so I've used that as well, per the OP.
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Postby Kyraina » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:06 pm

Britanania wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Aye that may be the case but SaintB, The OP, hasnt said anything on who the heir or regent was after the fall of Arthur. I'm not denying, as i could as im a co-op, as im leaving that to Saint im just pointing something out that wasnt explicitly stated by the OP himself

SaintB cited Le Morte d'Arthur as the source and so I've used that as well, per the OP.

He said it was inspired by that, but in this RP Arthur hadnt name a regent or Heir. Constantine being the Heirndoesnt mesh with the RP or The RPs time line
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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:06 pm

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Culture: Briton
Gender: Male
Biography: The legends tell that Sir Kay was the most stubborn of Arthur's knights and would brave fire or water before any man. They tell that he could grow as tall as the trees if he so liked, that he could live for nine days with no rest, no food, and no water, and that wounds struck by Kay's spatha could never heal. Sir Kay was Arthur's adopted brother, the first knight to swear fealty to the High King, and the Seneschal of Arthur's Court. He died in battle at the hand of Gwyddawg fab Menestyr during the rise of the Saxon warlord Cerdic at the age of 58.

Garanwyn was Kay's eldest son and had no legends of his own, he was not a knight of the round table but had served as steward of Kay's holdings in Cynwidion and inherited his father's manor. He was trained as a warrior but preferred the manorial life of managing farms and collecting rents. Garanwyn was a man of letters and numbers; he was a deep thinker who had enriched his father's lands twofold and enriched them threefold once they were his. He ensured his sons learned letters and maths as well as how to use a spear and sword, but he himself never wielded a weapon in anger until the Saxons invaded Lundien. In 528 when East Anglia attacked from the north and Middle Saexe attacked from the south King Cynwyd called all his men, including Garanwyn to defend the realm and he obliged, taking his best men, his retinue, and his two eldest sons with him and never returned.

The story of Judoc begins after the loss of his father and brothers. Being only 12 when the war broke out he was left behind at the manor in the care of the family's seneschal Annant and his mother while his brothers and father were all killed in a Skirmish during a failed attempt to break the siege of Lundien. Only the captain of Garanwyn's retinue, a soldier named Bryon survived; following his lord's final orders he brought Kay's sword back from the battlefield to give to Judoc and then escorted he and his mother to her home in the realm of Caer Ceri where he would live as a courtier in his uncle's manor. In Caer Ceri Judoc grew tall and strong like his grandfather, and bright like his father, his uncle ensured Annant saw that Judoc received a proper education and Bryon saw that the lad grew proficient with sword and spear.

Once Judoc became a man his uncle sought to find him a wife but there were no families interested in joining their daughters to the dispossessed third son of a dead noble, especially not without any real prospect of him regaining his land from the invaders. No longer wishing to be a burden on his family he found himself in a position where he had to choose between life as a warrior or life as a monk. With strong arms, a tall frame, and skill with weapons he could make a formidable warrior, and with his education and ability to speak and read Latin he would be a fine candidate for any monastery. However, Judoc is not the most pious man and so he chose the mercenary life in hopes he could survive long enough to join a noble retinue or retire with enough wealth to live on.

Judoc is the third scion of Garanwyn and last surviving member of Kay's bloodline; he is much like his father and grandfather both. Judoc is a deep thinker like his father but stubborn like his grandfather, he thinks long and hard on a thing and once his mind is made up he rarely changes it. Like Sir Kay Judoc is fearless and bold, but tempered with his father's deliberateness and caution, he never acts rashly without thought of the consequences and always accepts responsibility for what he has done. Judoc also has a touch of his father's diplomacy and grandfather's physical prowess. In the last six years he has fought against Saxons and Gaels, but also against his fellow Britons and now he finds himself as a junior officer with a small company of spears providing protection for Beckery Chapel from Saxon brigands in the region.

RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=364625&p=27263192
Possessions: Judoc possesses Sir Kay's sword, though he has never seen it strike any magical wounds as legends tell. He wears a quality but unadorned ridged helm, a much abused gambeson that was new when his mother gifted it to him as he left to make his way, and a byrnie of butted mail for protection in battle; his shield is decorated with two parallel keys on a blue field, the symbol of Arthur's Seneschal and his family's arms. Aside from his grandfather's sword Judoc is armed with a steel tipped spear and an ornate dagger.


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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:14 pm

Ubaria wrote:NS Name: Ubaria
Character Name: Cadeyrn, Son of Leofric
Culture: Briton
Gender: Male
Biography: The Knights of the Round Table had faded to legend. Fact to fable in a matter of decades and the lands they had once held had fallen to ruin. With the threat of invasion ever present from foreign invaders. the knights had gone their separate ways to forge a path beyond their legend and most faded into anonymity, opting to live in recluse or perhaps a more quiet life. Tristan wasn't such a Knight. Tristan had been one of Arthur's most loyal knights and had accompanied him on numerous expeditions, most notably the hunt for the Holy Grail.

Tristan's time before he had met Arthur had been wrought with hardships though, as his liege lord was King Mark of what is now known as Cornwall. Tristan was Mark's royal protector and also, his nephew, the young knight was quick with his blade and even quicker with his wit, something that would prove useful in the years to come. Mark had arranged a marriage with the Queen of Ireland's daughter, Iseult the Young and the ceremony was to take place in Cornwall, however there had been some complications. The legendary Irish Warrior, Morholt, saw this marriage as an opportunity to extort a tribute from the Cornish king and did so without hesitation. This resulted in a battle when Tristan came to the aid of his Uncle and the two dueled it out, Tristan ultimately proving victorious by driving his blade through his opponent's skull, though not before the Irish warrior wounded Tristan in the leg with a poison coated dagger.

Time was short yet Tristan wanted to uphold his knightly vow to his liege and offered to travel to Ireland to retrieve his Uncle's bride and bring her back. It just so happened that Iseult was a skilled healer, managing to reverse the effects of the deadly poison. However the cocktail of herbs and medicines would also induce a strong attraction between the two, causing them to fall madly in love with one another but still, Tristan wanted to uphold his promise and continued the journey to deliver Iseult for the wedding. Over the course of several years, the two continued to meet eachother in secret, behind the backs of noblemen, stewards and of course the King himself. This resulted in a child which Tristan named Leofric, though it was to be a short introduction as the pair knew that if Leofric were to ever be found out to be the lovechild between the two, it would mean certain death for the child and indeed, themselves. Luckily, one day a merchant caravan was passing through the keep and Tristan managed to smuggle the child over to a pottery trader, even giving the man a large sum of gold to keep the secret to himself.

Not soon after, Tristan and Iseult's adulterous affair was bought into the light after a maid found them together in Iseult's chambers. Tristan admitted the truth immediately, his Uncle however was not appreciative of his honesty and ordered Tristan to be hanged at first light and for Iseult to be locked away in her chambers for her crimes. Later that morning, Tristan managed to escape his binds and slipped the guards and instantly went to free Iseult from her prison. Both of them managed to escape into the forests, living for several weeks off berries, roots and whatever Tristan could catch with his hands though eventually, the pair were found by a hunting party and bought back to be executed. Mark however, over the weeks had a change of heart, seeing the devotion and love they had for one another he decided to spair them both, one one condition. Tristan was to leave the country and never return, he did so with honor but was drawn back several years later due to his commitments with Arthur.

Leofric however had been taken west, to the town of Durnovia where he was raised by the merchant and his family, who never told him of his real origin, fearing he would attempt to seek out his father to his own detriment. Instead, he became quite a talented merchant like his adoptive father, mainly staying in the family business of pottery and ceramics. Leofric himself sired a child with his wife Fraya. Caydern. The three lived in Durnovia and occasionally traveled to trade with the various other tribes in the area.

One night, whilst camping beside a river, their small caravan was preyed upon by a band of Saxon raiders. Leofric managed to sound the alarm and urged a young Caydern to escape, using the mask of darkness to slip away. For months, Caydern wandered the countryside, eating what he could and catching birds to eat and sleeping in ditches until a group of knight-errants came upon him in an abandoned abbey one evening. Eventually, after some persuasion, the knights agreed to take him in and educate him whilst they traveled from court to court, offering their services. Caydern learned how to wield a blade, write with a quill, hunt effectively and other various crafts of the trade.

With Saxon raids increasing, Caydern found work protecting farms and villages from attack, often moving from place to place with his group until he parted on good terms, wishing to seek out to start a life for himself. Eventually however, fate would soon decide to pay him a visit.

RP Example: Ace Combat: Broken Line
Possessions:
  • Rusty Iron Spatha
  • Cloth Tunic
  • Cloth Leggings
  • Hide footwear
  • Fur lined cloak and hood
  • Small leather pouch
  • Water bladder


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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:39 pm

Kaledoria wrote:NS Name: Kaledoria
Character Name: Niall Mac Ewan Ní Bhrún
Culture: Scottish Gael
Gender: male
Lineage and Biography:
- Great-Great-Grandson of Esclanor the Black
- Great-Grandson of Sir Brunor, the older, the Good Knight Without Fear, King of Estrangore (died ~495)
- Grandson of Sir Brunor, the Black, Knight of the round table and Lord of Pendragon Castle (died 531)
- Son of Sir Ewan, who brought the Blood Feud between his father and Sir Brian into the second generation, traveled to the Isle of Man and ultimately to Dál Riata after a failed assassination attempt on his father's life. The two sons of Sir Brian were responsible for the attempt and in 518 Ewans quest was successful, he had vanquished them both. However at that time he had also met young King Comgall and fell in love with his sister Sorcha. While she was technically above his peerage, Ewan court-shipped Sorcha for a year and through his persistence (and much convincing by Lady Sorcha, who returned his love and warded off all other suitors) Ewan finally got Comgall's permission to marry the princess in return for an oath of vassalage.
- Niall was born two years later and followed his father's footsteps, becoming a squire at the age of 15 and was knighted at age 18, earlier then usual due to getting battlefield experience in Comgall's campaign in the north.
- The campaign proceeded well for two years, as the Picts were currently disorganized and the tribes in the west received no help from the stronger tribes to the east. But it came to a sudden stop, when Comgall was ambushed and killed by some Picts. His brother Gabran succeeded Comgall to the throne and stopped expansion in favor of securing the lands so far conquered.
- It was also Ewan's last war, while the old knight survived, he lost his leg below the knee in the same skirmish in which his king died. He was taken prisoner but Niall rescued him on a mission to recover Comgall's corpse from the Picts.
- For his valor and sacrifice (and probably to a degree due to the success of his son), Ewan was made Lord of the Isle of Arran by King Gabran.
- Niall decided to travel to Castle Pendragon, that he had last visited 9 years ago to the funeral of his grandfather Brunor, to tell his uncle Dinadan the younger (who now rules over it) of his father's new title (and maybe to find a lady of his own, the courtship situation in Dál Riata is a bit sparse at the moment).

RP Example: Necromancers!
Possessions:
Gambeson (with gloves, trousers etc), long maile brynie, helmet, splint-reinforced bracers and boots, over-tunic in his new family tartan
Fighting spear (2-handed, tough enough for swinging), Celtic Sword (Pattern-welded), Shield (Black oval shield with white hand holding sword, replica of replica of his grandmother's shield), quiver w. 5 javelins, sling with 12 sling-stones, Dagger
His horse, Acha, large sattlebags, simple sattle
Bag of Caltrops, pocket knife, hammock, blankets, 5 sq-ft linen cloth, tarpaulin, rations, waterskin, rope, hook- and ring-bolts, grapple hook, personal utensils (soap, comb, ...), everyday tools (needle&thread, prongs and spare rings for maile-fixes, small hammer, spade), flint-stone and tinderbox, torch, pan, pot, cutlery, some coins, firewood, hay, spare clothes (simple outdoor, cold weather, decent looking tunic), clean bandages in waxed bag

Notes:
- Niall was raised tri-lingual, Gaelic being his primary language, Britonic, the native language of his father secondary and Pictish, the language of many of the common folk under the rule of the Scots on the Greater British Isle tertiary. Sometimes he mixes up words from the wrong language when speaking in one of the later two.
- His father's fief has a total population of 3842 people. Ewan's sluagh (or "Retinue") consists of 20 knights and 8 squires. Nobles of Gealic heritage keep the order and protect the people as a militia if needed; with their guardsmen they account to about another 70 people under arms (but not necessarily under command).
- Niall follows the old faith but respects Christians
- Friend of Tarnist Conall of Dál Riata




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A member of a Scotti tribe I see. This isn't necessary but it would be easier for some people if you tried to write your bio in paragraphs instead of bullet points. The rest here is, your retinue and warhorse are a no, please get rid of those. You may have a riding horse for long travels but a warhorse is too valuable to take on the road. You also have too much armor, some of which is not period appropriate so please lose some of that.
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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:09 pm

Britanania wrote:NS Name: Brit
Character Name: Duke Gaius Cadorius and Duchess Cadoria of Cerniw, the grandchildren of Cador, Arthur's cousin
Culture: Latinised Britons
Gender: Male and Female, respectively
Biography: Gaius and Cadoria are the twin grandchildren of Duke Cador of Cerniw, by Cador's son Constantine. Following Arthur's death, Constantine was given rule over the whole of Briton, and whilst he reigned nobly and Arthur's ideals lived through Constantine, they were not enough to prevent total war from breaking out in Britain.

Gaius and Cadoria were born a year after Arthur's death at Constantine's capital Caer Uisc and dubbed the Duke and Duchess of Cerniw as heirs to the throne of Dummonia. As twins are a rare occasion, the seers noted that the pair would hold not only a special bond but a special destiny. The twins were raised in the old Roman style by Constantine's courtiers, and they had hopes that perhaps, due to their mystic nature, the twins could be magical practitioners. In addition to their classical education, both Gaius and Cadoria were trained in the arts of war in preparation for the long campaigns that followed the collapse of Arthur's rule.

The twins have, since their teens, participated in wars against Powys and the Saxon invaders and are known for their ferocity in combat, and in particular, have fought primarily in the Welsh Quagmire, as their father spends his time fighting in the East. On the field of battle, Gaius and Cadoria fight as a pair, Cadoria with her war axe and Gaius with his hasta, and on occasion, a spatha. As a unit, they are a deadly force that serves as both a boost of morale to their soldiers and dread to their enemies. Outside of battle, Gaius is a gregarious storyteller and bard, famous for his dark sense of humour and his knowledge of the old tales, while Cadoria is more reserved and bookish, another rarity.

As the wars in Wales continue to drag, and the invading Saxons growing ever stronger, however, the twins seek a way to break the stalemate.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33058085#p33058085

Possessions:

Gaius' Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Mail cuirass
Ridge helmet
Late scuta
Hasta
Spatha
Mount

Cadoria's Wargear:
Long-sleeved tunic
Bracae
Marching boots
Bronze muscle cuirass
Late scuta
War axe

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Some problems with your bio I would ask you to fix please. Firstly, I am ok with nobility, and even high nobility but the heirs to a major kingdom is a step too far and Cerniw is one of the three minor Kingdoms of Dummonia, it's capital is Caer Tintigel, and its not ruled directly by Constantine, his seat is in Caer Uisc in the subkingdom of Dyfneint, history so far as I know is unclear as to the ruler of Cerniw in 540AD. You can make someone up to be their parent if you like but place them further down the line of succession please. As for Constantine, he's documented as having been born in 520 or 523, and ascending in 530 (at a very young age) he would rule Dumnonia until 560 and then retire to a monastery where he apparently lived as many as 29 more years before getting murdered to death by West Saxons. In my timeline he's the age of many of the player's characters and if he was a high king nobody was going to listen a child tell them what to do. He is a spiritual successor in his honor and piety but never an official successor to Arthur as he may well have yet to even be born.

On a side note please put all your stuff in its English names as a courtesy to the other's in the RP.
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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:13 pm

If someone has an app I never got to please poke me and let me know.

I'm going to delay the IC for a little bit while apps get worked out.
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Postby Pyrghium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:18 pm

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Postby Kaledoria » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:49 am

SaintB wrote:
Kaledoria wrote:...

A member of a Scotti tribe I see. This isn't necessary but it would be easier for some people if you tried to write your bio in paragraphs instead of bullet points. The rest here is, your retinue and warhorse are a no, please get rid of those. You may have a riding horse for long travels but a warhorse is too valuable to take on the road. You also have too much armor, some of which is not period appropriate so please lose some of that.

Well, the People of Dál Riata probably see themselves more as a proper feudal kingdom then as tribespeople like the savage Picts but compared to the "Latin" realms ... yeah, I guess.

As far as the other points go: Okay, works for me. I mean it was my character's father's retinue but I would not have mentioned it if I had not seen circumstances under which my character asks for backup and Daddy sends some men to the rescue. If that's bad for the story you have in mind, no problem, Ewan just got demoted from Mormaer (~Earl) to Toisech (~Thegn (Which is kind of English from Norse (?), I think the proper ur-English title would be "overlord", even though this is, (since the Disgea series?) kind of connotated higher then it actually was, a title below Mesne lord)).

That also takes care of the splinted bracers and boots (I assume these are the pieces you found to be problematic?), although as a history nerd I need to point out, that they are period appropriate, even though likely out of place in Dál Riata (I would have had to have purchased or copied it from Norse(Swedish) merchants which is not impossible for an Earl-like noble but a stretch for a mere Thegn). I replaced it by simple leather. I still have "lots" of armor but this really is more because I don't have a simple complete set but rather patch-worked it together from various materials and sources during the last two years, I hope that is okay.
My horse never was a warhorse, I did not want to create that impression. (?) I just need some beast of burden for my large pack of stuff. I'm willing to go down to a donkey too, if necessary.
Also self-restricted my climbing gear, that previously was more late-medieval with hooks and rings. Niall will have to do with just robe and a grappling hook alone. ;)

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Postby SaintB » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:12 am

Kaledoria wrote:
SaintB wrote:A member of a Scotti tribe I see. This isn't necessary but it would be easier for some people if you tried to write your bio in paragraphs instead of bullet points. The rest here is, your retinue and warhorse are a no, please get rid of those. You may have a riding horse for long travels but a warhorse is too valuable to take on the road. You also have too much armor, some of which is not period appropriate so please lose some of that.

Well, the People of Dál Riata probably see themselves more as a proper feudal kingdom then as tribespeople like the savage Picts but compared to the "Latin" realms ... yeah, I guess.

As far as the other points go: Okay, works for me. I mean it was my character's father's retinue but I would not have mentioned it if I had not seen circumstances under which my character asks for backup and Daddy sends some men to the rescue. If that's bad for the story you have in mind, no problem, Ewan just got demoted from Mormaer (~Earl) to Toisech (~Thegn (Which is kind of English from Norse (?), I think the proper ur-English title would be "overlord", even though this is, (since the Disgea series?) kind of connotated higher then it actually was, a title below Mesne lord)).

That also takes care of the splinted bracers and boots (I assume these are the pieces you found to be problematic?), although as a history nerd I need to point out, that they are period appropriate, even though likely out of place in Dál Riata (I would have had to have purchased or copied it from Norse(Swedish) merchants which is not impossible for an Earl-like noble but a stretch for a mere Thegn). I replaced it by simple leather. I still have "lots" of armor but this really is more because I don't have a simple complete set but rather patch-worked it together from various materials and sources during the last two years, I hope that is okay.
My horse never was a warhorse, I did not want to create that impression. (?) I just need some beast of burden for my large pack of stuff. I'm willing to go down to a donkey too, if necessary.
Also self-restricted my climbing gear, that previously was more late-medieval with hooks and rings. Niall will have to do with just robe and a grappling hook alone. ;)

Nobody was really proper feudal yet in the 6th century, modern historians refer to the government of the time as manorial and even the Briton Kingdoms are patchworks of tribal and demi-feudal subrealms making a sort of confederation. Anywho, your edits are acceptable and I'll add you to the list when I have a chance.
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Postby Kyraina » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:43 pm

NS Name: Ky
Character Name: Rhydain the Forester
Culture: Briton
Gender: Male
Biography: Rhydain was born to Sir Salomon, Who was Arthur's right hand and head of Arthur's personal Guard, and Lady Riwana, a Lady in Waiting in the Queen's Entourage. Sir Salomon had been born to peasants, despite this Sir Salomon became a Forester early in King Arthur's reign. During one of Arthur's campaign's against the Saxons, Salomon was serving as a scout for Arthur's Army, Arthur was Ambushed and Salomon's band of scouts had stumbled across the battle as they were returning to report to Arthur. With calm and directed Bow fire from the scouts under the command of Salomon. Arthur and the Knights in his guard were able to break free. Salomon was Knighted and made a member of Arthur's guard. Because he was a Forester and not a soldier, Salomon was more proficient with a bow then he was a Sword. Under the the Direction of Arthur's Quartermaster, He grew proficient with a Sword, enough to were he was considered a Sword Master. Sir Salomon however was lesser Known due to being more of a Knight of war, unlike Knights like Lancelot and Palamedes who were Questing Knights. Despite being one of the Few Knights of War on the Round Table, Sir Salomon was good friends with Lancelot and the Saracen Brothers that served as Knights on the round table. It was through Lancelot that Salomon met and Married Lady Riwanal, who was several years younger then Salomon. Just 5 years before the Fall of Arthur, they were blessed with a Son they named Rhydain. 5 years later, during Lancelot's betrayal, and several of the Knights of the Round left with lancelot, Salomon stayed Loyal to Arthur. He had handpicked the Knights that Guarded the Queen when she was to be burned at the Stake. On this day, Lancelot launched a rescue party, and Salomon rallied the troops to try to stop them, but Sir Palamedes showed up with reinforcements for Lancelot. It took Lancelot, Sif, and Palamedes working together to slay Salomon. At the end of the fight Salomon's bow and sword both lay broken on the ground, and his armor beyond repair. Things got worse for Rhydain's Family when Arthur was Slain, His mother and him moved around trying to blend in but finally fled to Brittany, where His mom would wed Sir Palamedes. A few months Later she was pregnant with Rhy's half brother, Maddux. A few years later Rhydain learned what happened of his father's death and fled back to Briton. He wondered around Britan for weeks before collapsing in front of a Forester's Cabin, The Forester there was Loyal to King Morgan the Thunderbolt. The Forester and his wife were never able to conceive any children,so they embraced Rhydain with a love he never recieved from his mother and one that was robbed from him when his father was slain.

Rhydain learned how to ride a horse, how to make and shot his own longbow, how to hunt and track, how to skin and butcher a animal, how to cook with meat vegetables and fruit, how to fight with a wood axe and a large dagger, and last of all how to interact with people, no matter where their station in life, with respect. As he got older He helped his adopted father with his duties as a Forester, before eventually taking over the office.

When King Morgan learned who Rhydain was, he tried to have Rhy knighted but Rhy refused content with simple life of a forester, Though Morgan did convince Rhy to take one of his Grand daughters who had longed for a simple life away from court. A few months Later They were blessed with a set of Twins. Not long after, Rhy was gifted a Dog, a dog breed that is similar to the English Mastiff. A few years after that King Morgan summoned Rhy and sent him to Beckery Chapal as the only help that he could afford to send.

Rhydain has a tall lean but well muscled frame, he keeps his dark brown hair cut short roman style, his skin is tan from time spent put in wind and sun. His eyes are brown, and has a full beard.
RP Example:Ace Combat Broken Line
Possessions: 95 (kept on person or horse depending on situation) LBf War Longbow, 60 LBf Hunting Long bow (Kept on person or horse depending on situation), 3x (one worn, others kept in bags on horse) sets of Clothing and boots, 2 (1 or both kept on horse depending on situation) quivers of boardhead arrows, 1 (kept on person or on horse deping on situation) quiver of hunting arrows, seasonings (kept on horse), pots and pans (kept on horse), tent (Kept on Horse), horse named Tyrant, A english Mastiff named Salomon, extra arrowheads and fletching gear for making more arrows(kept on horse), extra bow string(kept on horse), bow making tools (kept on horse), dark green cloak with a hood (on person), Hatchet(kept on person), Long Dagger forged in Celtic Style(kept on person), and 2x bow staves (one almost complete, and one not started on. Both kept on horse)

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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:16 pm

Kyraina wrote:-Snip-


The breed your looking for is a Pugnaces Brittaniae. The Mastiff was likely a combination of those and the Aluants the Normans brought with them.

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Postby Kyraina » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:38 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Kyraina wrote:-Snip-


The breed your looking for is a Pugnaces Brittaniae. The Mastiff was likely a combination of those and the Aluants the Normans brought with them.

I looked and looked and I saw where it said what I said and I've so seem it it's been said were they ain't sure what breeds they are descended rom
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:47 pm

Kyraina wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
The breed your looking for is a Pugnaces Brittaniae. The Mastiff was likely a combination of those and the Aluants the Normans brought with them.

I looked and looked and I saw where it said what I said and I've so seem it it's been said were they ain't sure what breeds they are defended from


We aren't for sure, but we know that the Mastiff was almost certainly a Post-Norman breed. I suggested a Pugnaces because they were supposedly similar to the Mollosus which was almost assuredly the progenitor of modern Mastiffs.

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Postby Kyraina » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:49 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Kyraina wrote:I looked and looked and I saw where it said what I said and I've so seem it it's been said were they ain't sure what breeds they are defended from


We aren't for sure, but we know that the Mastiff was almost certainly a Post-Norman breed. I suggested a Pugnaces because they were supposedly similar to the Mollosus which was almost assuredly the progenitor of modern Mastiffs.

I just got English Mastiff listes to give every one a idea od what he looks like till i can get some more research done
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Kyraina wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
We aren't for sure, but we know that the Mastiff was almost certainly a Post-Norman breed. I suggested a Pugnaces because they were supposedly similar to the Mollosus which was almost assuredly the progenitor of modern Mastiffs.

I just got English Mastiff listes to give every one a idea od what he looks like till i can get some more research done


Was just giving a suggestion

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Postby Kyraina » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:15 am

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Kyraina wrote:I just got English Mastiff listes to give every one a idea od what he looks like till i can get some more research done


Was just giving a suggestion

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