by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:58 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:01 am
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:02 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Laws should be imposed that prevent such therapy from being compulsory in any circumstance, but I don't think it should be completely outlawed.
by Page » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:03 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:05 am
by Page » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:06 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Laws should be imposed that prevent such therapy from being compulsory in any circumstance, but I don't think it should be completely outlawed.
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:12 am
Nakena wrote:I applaud Utah on this decision for standing up for freedom, given that countless children and young adults have been dragged against their will intoConcentrationConversion Camps.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:16 am
Page wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Laws should be imposed that prevent such therapy from being compulsory in any circumstance, but I don't think it should be completely outlawed.
It can never be consensual when minors are involved, and while it's arguable that adults can choose it if they want to, it is still fraud.
by The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:17 am
by Gaazikumukh » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:17 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:17 am
by The of Korea » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:19 am
by Sperio » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:22 am
Nakena wrote:I applaud Utah on this decision for standing up for freedom, given that countless children and young adults have been dragged against their will intoConcentrationConversion Camps.
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:26 am
Sperio wrote:Nakena wrote:I applaud Utah on this decision for standing up for freedom, given that countless children and young adults have been dragged against their will intoConcentrationConversion Camps.
Agreed, give me a reason this isn't a less-lethal Concentration camp.
it has
- isolation
- abuse
- Mengle level mad science
by Page » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:31 am
Sperio wrote:Nakena wrote:I applaud Utah on this decision for standing up for freedom, given that countless children and young adults have been dragged against their will intoConcentrationConversion Camps.
Agreed, give me a reason this isn't a less-lethal Concentration camp.
it has
- isolation
- abuse
- Mengle level mad science
by Asle Leopolka » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:31 am
Page wrote:This is still going on in 31 states. Much like Saudi Arabia legalizing women driving, I find it hard to celebrate because it's goddamn 2020.
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:32 am
Asle Leopolka wrote:Good on them. This should hopefully expedite other conservative states to get around to outlawing it.Page wrote:This is still going on in 31 states. Much like Saudi Arabia legalizing women driving, I find it hard to celebrate because it's goddamn 2020.
Who cares? Better late than never.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:39 am
by Sperio » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 am
San Lumen wrote:Sperio wrote:Agreed, give me a reason this isn't a less-lethal Concentration camp.
it has
- isolation
- abuse
- Mengle level mad science
That is a reasonable assessment, Thought invoking Mengele might be a little far. The film Boy Erased shows what conversation therapy is like and how anyone can support it after that is beyond me.
by Antityranicals » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:47 am
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:49 am
Antityranicals wrote:Here's my take on conversion therapy: It's very, very questionable, and is not medically sound. However, it's not the government's business. As such, conversion therapy ought be legal, but only when the patient consents. They can make their own decisions, and if they decide they want to try something to make them straight instead of gay, even if that something is rather foolish and unscientific, it is their right to try that. But parents taking their children to conversion therapy... that's pretty problematic.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:54 am
Antityranicals wrote:Here's my take on conversion therapy: It's very, very questionable, and is not medically sound. However, it's not the government's business. As such, conversion therapy ought be legal, but only when the patient consents. They can make their own decisions, and if they decide they want to try something to make them straight instead of gay, even if that something is rather foolish and unscientific, it is their right to try that. But parents taking their children to conversion therapy... that's pretty problematic.
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