by Rio Cana » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:12 pm
by Yawkland » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:13 pm
by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:17 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Loben The 2nd » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:19 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Everybody gangsta till the EU starts enacting border control regarding Americans
by The Marsupial » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:23 pm
by Madrinet » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:23 pm
by Rio Cana » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:28 pm
Yawkland wrote:Doubt this will deter US visitors to Europe. American visitors to Europe are disproportionately wealthy ones, who will not be encumbered by this fee.
by Risottia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:58 pm
Rio Cana wrote:...Currently, the US has a similar type of system implemented.
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I think this will deter some people from traveling to the EU. since the form you fill out on the internet asks too many questions.
by Agarntrop » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:01 pm
Madrinet wrote:I like to think this was designed to annoy the British, because that's exactly the sort of petty thing I would do.
by The New California Republic » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:09 pm
Will British citizens be required to have the ETIAS authorization?
Since the UK is going through the Brexit procedures, it is still unclear of what the conditions for Britons wishing to enter the EU will be. However, the British are very likely to fall under the ETIAS program.
As the negotiations for the UK leaving the EU proceed, the situation will be clarified and British citizens will understand whether they have to get the ETIAS or not.
by Risottia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:13 pm
Madrinet wrote:I like to think this was designed to annoy the British, because that's exactly the sort of petty thing I would do.
by The East Marches II » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:23 pm
Risottia wrote:Rio Cana wrote:...Currently, the US has a similar type of system implemented.
...
I think this will deter some people from traveling to the EU. since the form you fill out on the internet asks too many questions.
So some Americans are fine if their gov't asks other folks questions, but not if other countries do exactly the same thing with them?
I guess we can live without those Americans.
by US-SSR » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:30 pm
by Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:37 pm
US-SSR wrote:Anyone entering any nation is subject to immigration and customs inspection. What the EU appears to be doing is attempting to automate some of that beforehand, charging a fee for it and making common carriers responsible for ensuring their passengers have obtained the authorization. Pretty straightforward. Any affect it has on tourism numbers will probably be from people who neglect their duty to determine and comply with the entry requirements for the countries they visit. What are they gonna do, go see some other Eiffel Tower, Colloseum or Brandenburg Gate?
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:53 pm
Madrinet wrote:I like to think this was designed to annoy the British, because that's exactly the sort of petty thing I would do.
by The New California Republic » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:56 pm
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Madrinet wrote:I like to think this was designed to annoy the British, because that's exactly the sort of petty thing I would do.
This ^
Seriously though Google says Americans travel to Europe 12 million times a year. British people crossed over to the mainland something like a hundred and twenty-six million times every year. Per capita that's like 3% vs. 200%. Think about it this is clearly targeted at British and other countries in and around Europe, it has very very little to do with America.
by Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:00 pm
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Madrinet wrote:I like to think this was designed to annoy the British, because that's exactly the sort of petty thing I would do.
This ^
Seriously though Google says Americans travel to Europe 12 million times a year. British people crossed over to the mainland something like a hundred and twenty-six million times every year. Per capita that's like 3% vs. 200%. Think about it this is clearly targeted at British and other countries in and around Europe, it has very very little to do with America.
by Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:09 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:This ^
Seriously though Google says Americans travel to Europe 12 million times a year. British people crossed over to the mainland something like a hundred and twenty-six million times every year. Per capita that's like 3% vs. 200%. Think about it this is clearly targeted at British and other countries in and around Europe, it has very very little to do with America.
This was coming into play long before the Brexit vote. It's aimed squarely at the US.
by Esternial » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:12 pm
Risottia wrote:Rio Cana wrote:...Currently, the US has a similar type of system implemented.
...
I think this will deter some people from traveling to the EU. since the form you fill out on the internet asks too many questions.
So some Americans are fine if their gov't asks other folks questions, but not if other countries do exactly the same thing with them? :lol:
I guess we can live without those Americans.
by Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:15 pm
Esternial wrote:Risottia wrote:
So some Americans are fine if their gov't asks other folks questions, but not if other countries do exactly the same thing with them?
I guess we can live without those Americans.
I vaguely recall they ask you at least 5 times "are you a terrorist?", just phrased differently - once even verbatim.
by Esternial » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:19 pm
by Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:20 pm
Bromagia wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
This was coming into play long before the Brexit vote. It's aimed squarely at the US.
It's meant to do what, exactly? Bother next to nobody? That's the effect. No one cares in the slightest. It's a tiny fee and approval is basically guaranteed. So, it's aimed at the US to what end?
by Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:21 pm
Esternial wrote:Bromagia wrote:Is one of the five questions, "Are you now or have you ever been a Freedom Fighter"?
Dunno, but asks you if you seek to engage in terrorist activities while in the US.
I mean, if you lie you committed fraud but if that's the case fraud will probably not be the worst thing you've done while in the US.
by Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:22 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Bromagia wrote:It's meant to do what, exactly? Bother next to nobody? That's the effect. No one cares in the slightest. It's a tiny fee and approval is basically guaranteed. So, it's aimed at the US to what end?
Because the US has done the same to the EU. Like I said, it's tit for tat.
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