by World Assembly Reform » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:24 pm
by Pangurstan » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:27 pm
by USS Monitor » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:31 pm
by WayNeacTia » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:06 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by World Assembly Reform » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:08 pm
Wayneactia wrote:This won't end well...
by World Assembly Reform » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:12 pm
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:Better, or more like how you want it ?
by Borovan entered the region as he » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:20 pm
by Adriatican » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:22 pm
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:Better, or more like how you want it ?
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by Araraukar » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:33 am
Adriatican wrote:No, I would agree with the OP on his points. Especially on the Secretariat point; they made the WA an oligarchy.
Now we get rejected because they’re of the opinion we ran afoul of some subsection of a resolution no one’s read since 2009.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by WayNeacTia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:50 am
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Bananaistan » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 am
Adriatican wrote:The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:Better, or more like how you want it ?
No, I would agree with the OP on his points. Especially on the Secretariat point; they made the WA an oligarchy. Yes before them we got a lot of superfluous legislation, but it’s not like it was truly a nuisance, since it’s not like we’re actually diplomats with duties.
Now we get rejected because they’re of the opinion we ran afoul of some subsection of a resolution no one’s read since 2009.
by The COT Corporation » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:23 am
Wayneactia wrote:This won't end well...
by Tinhampton » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:31 am
World Assembly Reform wrote:President Rogers has announced that the World Assembly powers of Republicanana have transferred to a new department, to promote WA reform.
by Bears Armed » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:10 am
Bananaistan wrote:Also, every single GA regular (with the possible exception of Bears Armed who, AFAIK, exists outside the time-space continuum ) currently participating in this aspect of NS started playing when the rules and "culture" was already established.
by Tarchuna and Ravenna » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:14 am
Araraukar wrote:Adriatican wrote:No, I would agree with the OP on his points. Especially on the Secretariat point; they made the WA an oligarchy.
...and exactly how was it not an "oligarchy" when the moderation team was making the calls? Especially given that even in the best of times we had all of three mods with the necessary experience to tackle GA legality calls.Now we get rejected because they’re of the opinion we ran afoul of some subsection of a resolution no one’s read since 2009.
If your proposal gets rejected because you contradict previous resolutions (it wasn't, by the way), post the draft on the forum first; people here will help you spot the issues so you can fix them. Contradiction avoidance is part of how the game functions, GenSec didn't invent it at random.
by Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:09 am
World Assembly Reform wrote:President Rogers has announced that the World Assembly powers of Republicanana have transferred to a new department, to promote WA reform. For too long, the World Assembly has been the home for mega bureaucracy including Secretariats have the ultimate say over resolutions and other items.
Delegates have too much power to put certain resolutions where individual countries should have some input. The Security Council has no real ability to actually force condemnations and liberations. The protectors of the world have no real way to end the scourge that is the raider groups that have plagued NationStates for almost as long as it existed like the Black Hawks, who despite double condemnation continues to have an raider-ready force at all times today.
Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:Come on now, who do you think would be better at ruling an empire? A council of intellectuals or the fickle public?
by BlackLight Covenant » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:17 am
Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:Araraukar wrote:...and exactly how was it not an "oligarchy" when the moderation team was making the calls? Especially given that even in the best of times we had all of three mods with the necessary experience to tackle GA legality calls.
If your proposal gets rejected because you contradict previous resolutions (it wasn't, by the way), post the draft on the forum first; people here will help you spot the issues so you can fix them. Contradiction avoidance is part of how the game functions, GenSec didn't invent it at random.
Come on now, who do you think would be better at ruling an empire? A council of intellectuals or the fickle public?
by World Assembly Reform » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:09 am
by Bananaistan » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:13 am
by San Carlos Islands » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:15 am
World Assembly Reform wrote:Proposal 1- A new "World Assembly Legal Council"- by President Rogers
This Legal Council will replace the Secretariats in terms of their powers over the WA. They will have the ability to rule resolutions legal and illegal before they move on to the endorsement stage of the process. This will make sure that any resolution that gets that far into the process will be fully legal. Instead of the current process where resolutions are marked illegal, explained and moved on to the challenge stage automatically, all resolutions will immediately as soon the proposer is prepared to move on to the next stage for endorsements, the Legal Council will take up the resolution and make a decision and suggest changes to resolution in order to make them legal (if possible) so far that either further debate can occur on the new, legal version or the bill can move to the endorsement stage immediately from there.
Bananaistan wrote:So your answer to too much bureaucracy is even more bureaucracy?
by World Assembly Reform » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:18 am
Bananaistan wrote:So your answer to too much bureaucracy is even more bureaucracy?
by Servilis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:18 am
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:That's just how the mechanics work. Secretariats do the rules if proposal is legal. There's no agenda. Wa delegates may seem unfair but if you think about it a region is electing its delegate so the populace can just unendorse the unpopular and endorse the popular and many regions delegate vote based on how their populace vote or on the WA ministry expertise.
Black hawks are powerful because they exploit founder less mechanics. Don't like it, don't leave your region founderless or with executive power or you will get sent to a very bad place.
by Dominant Oppressors » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:20 am
USS Monitor wrote:u wot mate?
by Dominant Oppressors » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:24 am
World Assembly Reform wrote:President Rogers has announced that the World Assembly powers of Republicanana have transferred to a new department, to promote WA reform. For too long, the World Assembly has been the home for mega bureaucracy including Secretariats have the ultimate say over resolutions and other items. Delegates have too much power to put certain resolutions where individual countries should have some input. The Security Council has no real ability to actually force condemnations and liberations. The protectors of the world have no real way to end the scourge that is the raider groups that have plagued NationStates for almost as long as it existed like the Black Hawks, who despite double condemnation continues to have an raider-ready force at all times today. This thread is meant to a discussion on how to officially push World Assembly reform to equal the power as much as possible between Delegates and Secretariats and individual members of the WA community.
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