by Clydeith » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:14 pm
by Clydeith » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:16 pm
by Araraukar » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:22 am
Clydeith wrote:Forensic Genetics Accord
The World Assembly,
Mindful of the fact that ethical issues arising from the swift progress of science and its technological uses must be examined not only in the light of due respect for a human being’s dignity,
Recognizing also that forensic genetics, when applied in an independent manner and subject to international standards, may effectively contribute to the identification of the remains of victims, to the restitution of identity to those persons illegally taken away and to address the issue of impunity,
Recognizing the importance of restoring identity to those persons who were separated from their families of origin, including those cases where they were taken away from their relatives when they were children, in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law,
Stressing that adequate steps to identify victims should also be taken in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law,
Hereby,
1. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to contribute to the identification of the remains of victims of serious violations of human rights international humanitarian law, and to address the issue of impunity;
2. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to contribute to the restoration of identity to those persons who were separated from their families, including those taken away from their relatives when they were children, in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law;
3. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to be applied pursuant to the international standards accepted by the scientific community in relation to quality assurance and control, and to ensure, where appropriate, the utmost respect for the principles of protection and confidentiality of the information and restricted access to such information, and recognizes that many States have domestic legislation in place designed to protect the privacy of individuals;
4. Welcomes the increasing use of forensic genetics in the investigations of serious violations of human rights and international humanitarian law, and calls for further cooperation between States, intergovernmental organizations and non-governmental organizations in planning and conducting such investigations consistent with applicable domestic and international law;
5. Stresses the importance of providing the results of the investigations of forensic genetics to national authorities, in particular, where appropriate, to competent judicial authorities;
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by The New Nordic Union » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:31 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: You'll need to define what you mean by forensic genetics.
by Verdant Haven » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:48 am
Clydeith wrote:Forensic Genetics Accord
Clydeith wrote:The World Assembly,
Mindful of the fact that ethical issues arising from the swift progress of science and its technological uses must be examined not only in the light of due respect for a human being’s dignity,
Clydeith wrote:Recognizing also that forensic genetics, when applied in an independent manner and subject to international standards, may effectively contribute to the identification of the remains of victims, to the restitution of identity to those persons illegally taken away and to address the issue of impunity,
Clydeith wrote:Recognizing the importance of restoring identity to those persons who were separated from their families of origin, including those cases where they were taken away from their relatives when they were children, in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law,
Clydeith wrote:Stressing that adequate steps to identify victims should also be taken in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law,
Clydeith wrote:Hereby,
Clydeith wrote:1. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to contribute to the identification of the remains of victims of serious violations of human rights international humanitarian law, and to address the issue of impunity;
Clydeith wrote:2. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to contribute to the restoration of identity to those persons who were separated from their families, including those taken away from their relatives when they were children, in situations of serious violations of human rights and, in the context of armed conflicts, of violations of international humanitarian law;
Clydeith wrote:3. Encourages States to consider the use of forensic genetics to be applied pursuant to the international standards accepted by the scientific community in relation to quality assurance and control, and to ensure, where appropriate, the utmost respect for the principles of protection and confidentiality of the information and restricted access to such information, and recognizes that many States have domestic legislation in place designed to protect the privacy of individuals;
Clydeith wrote:4. Welcomes the increasing use of forensic genetics in the investigations of serious violations of human rights and international humanitarian law, and calls for further cooperation between States, intergovernmental organizations and non-governmental organizations in planning and conducting such investigations consistent with applicable domestic and international law;
5. Stresses the importance of providing the results of the investigations of forensic genetics to national authorities, in particular, where appropriate, to competent judicial authorities;
by Tinhampton » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:26 am
by Kenmoria » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:29 pm
by Verdant Haven » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:13 pm
by Araraukar » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:34 pm
Forensics Accord
Category: Health
Area of Effect: Research
The World Assembly,
Mindful that swift progress of science and its technological uses must be examined not only in the light of due respect for a being’s dignity,
Hereby,
1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution...
A. Forensics - scientific tests or techniques used in connection with the detection of crime.
B. Impunity - exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.
2. Encourages States to use forensic genetics to contribute to the identification of the remains of victims of serious violations of sentient rights international law, and to address the issue of impunity;
3. Encourages States to use forensic genetics to contribute to the restoration of identity to those persons who were separated from their families, including those taken away from their relatives when they were children and in of violations of international sentient law;
4. Encourages States to use forensic genetics to be applied pursuant to the international standards accepted by the scientific community in relation to quality assurance and control, and to ensure, where appropriate, the utmost respect for the principles of protection and confidentiality of the information and restricted access to such information, and recognizes that many States have domestic legislation in place designed to protect the privacy of individuals;
5. Welcomes the increasing use of forensic genetics in the investigations of serious violations of sentient rights, and calls for further cooperation between States, intergovernmental organizations and non-governmental organizations in planning and conducting such investigations consistent with applicable domestic and international law;
6. Emphasizes the importance of providing the results of the investigations of forensic genetics to national authorities, in particular, where appropriate, to competent judicial authorities;
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Terttia » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:01 pm
by Morover » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:22 pm
So, I have a few issues with this proposal. Perhaps the first that comes to mind is that the title does not actually accurately represent the contents of the proposal. When one reads the title, their mind does not automatically go to "the use of genetics in forensic cases," it goes to broader, overarching legislation on the field of forensics. Additionally, I feel the actual category is wrong (and if it looks like it'll pass, I'll submit a legality challenge on those grounds). I feel it would be better put into Regulation: Legal Reform, Social Justice: Mild, or even Civil Rights/Moral Decency: Mild. Health: Research just doesn't tick all the boxes with me.
But now, onto the bulk of the proposal. My immediate impression is the distinctive lack of definition for "forensic genetics," a term used throughout the proposal - while it does have a definition for simply "forensics," a term that, by my count, occurs a grand total of 0 times in the proposal. I assume "forensic genetics" means the use of genetics in order to help with the detection of criminal activity, but, without any actual definition in the proposal, its impossible to know that for certain.
There's also the issue of the continued use of the "encourages" operative clause throughout this proposal. It's my understanding that, as it is seen as enough to deem a "mild" proposal legal, it's enough to be seen as an effective mandate, which doesn't seem to be the intent of the author. If this is not true, however, then this proposal does literally nothing. Having useless legislation is not a good look for the General Assembly, in my opinion. While I'm not opposed to having a resolution on the books that does apply some standards towards forensic investigations, I'd prefer it actually to hold nations accountable, to an extent.
Assuming that my assumed definition of "forensic genetics" is right, and that we're interpreting "encourages" as a soft mandate, the entire proposal is completely ignorant of pre-modern tech nations. While this may be true of many resolutions, this completely leaves primitive nations in the dust, as it completely negates non-genetic forensics work that can be done. Oftentimes, other forensics work would be much preferable to genetics work, and genetics is just overkill in these situations.
Additionally, what the hell is "international sentient law"? Why don't these people separated from their families have any say in their "restoration of identity"? There's too many questions left unanswered that the proposal is terrifyingly vague about. On top of it all, the formatting is one big block of text which is somewhat hard to read - which is certainly less than ideal for it all.
I urge you all to vote against this proposal.
by Superbunny » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:47 am
by Araraukar » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:43 am
Superbunny wrote:How did this reach the voting floor?
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Underwater Sovereignties » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:58 pm
by Araraukar » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:39 am
Underwater Sovereignties wrote:I also can't understand why the proposal contradicts itself by saying it intends to improve healthcare standards, which has nothing to do with the contents of the proposal.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Tinhampton » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:41 am
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