Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Darkesia]

Sounds like Roleplay rather than GP.
If you are looking to formalize races within NS, I'm guessing that will fall squarely in RP. GPers are too lazy to bother with cannon and the like, so you would have to make your racism a populist movement as TAO & Mr. Stick did with anti-marsupialism in TWP and the NSverse. That took years to establish.

I think TWP and Fedele's TEP took anti-marsupialism to about as far as it could go in a GP setting. And now with the fires IRL, it seems in poor taste to revive such a thing. Just my opinion.

[Wabbitslayah]

Sounds like Roleplay rather than GP.
If you are looking to formalize races within NS, I'm guessing that will fall squarely in RP. GPers are too lazy to bother with cannon and the like, so you would have to make your racism a populist movement as TAO & Mr. Stick did with anti-marsupialism in TWP and the NSverse. That took years to establish.

I think TWP and Fedele's TEP took anti-marsupialism to about as far as it could go in a GP setting. And now with the fires IRL, it seems in poor taste to revive such a thing. Just my opinion.

It's Codger. Short story is, he likes to try to fuse gameplay with novel or outlandish ideas to make shit interesting. I don't mean this negatively.

[The Blaatschapen]

We already have enough home-grown racists in NS

Yes, but no. We have enough racists in NS imported with RL racial ideas, but none based on home grown NS races.

In my hierarchy;

Individual
|
NS Family
|
Race (Germany, Bigtopian, Marsupial)
|
Region
|
Organisation (e.g. TGW if you are joining it to take part in defending, while you are a remember if another region)
|
Ideology (R/D, Nat Sov vs Int Fed for GA, Pro Choice/Life, Psychotic Dictatorships vs Civil Rights Fest etc)

Race is intertwined with Region for most of NS and you'll really only distinguish it in wehrboo regions, where their race is Prussia or Germany and their region is X. And the race was imported or inspired directly from RL

On the other hand the only home grown race I can think of is Marsupial and that's famous for no one wanting to be one.

(Unless we are claiming sheep and goats to be a race )

Most of gameplay is concerned with politics between Regions vs individuals or Region vs ideology etc or Organisation vs Organisation. Again it's often blurred.

My idea is introduce a home-grown concept of Race to NS. NS issues seemed to be the best place to start since there is such rich lore to play with. To clarify, I don't actually want the Skandilunders to be a 1 to 1 substitute of Nordic, Aryan Supermen but it is its own NS home grown race and culture that was partly inspired by Scandinavia.

Once that's done I can also invent racism...hence creating a better class of home grown racists.

In any case, I am (very, very) slowly working on reviving Bigtopia both as a race and region. Central to that is creating a compendium of everything related to Bigtopia in the game.

In my wild imagination, I hope to see players identifying themselves as part of the Bigtopian race, regardless of their region. The Bigtopia diaspora spreads far and wide and has integrated into the communities of many regions.

Then I want to hear of regions being subverted by Bigtopians, converted into passing laws to only select Pro Bigtopian issue answers.

-'B'odger. Boastful Bigtopian Racist.

Another layer to NS politics, do we really need one?

Besides, there is already a race in NS. Remember the Dutch mafia?

[Lyrical International Brigade]

Just want to point out real quick that the NatSov/IntFed distinction in the GA is basically of historical interest only, at this point. Broadly and glossing over some nuance, the NatSovs won in that there is now broad consensus that there are aspects of governance that national governments are more capable and competent to carry out than the 5000-character-limited World Assembly; and that WA overreach can be worse than doing nothing, even for the alleged benefactors. In their victory, they have mellowed, and allow that perhaps the universe of such policies is a bit smaller than their most ardent voices had claimed.

Or else we just don't talk about IntFed/NatSov anymore, while "That's not an international issue" remains as prevalent as ever in draft threads

[Bodger]

Sounds like Roleplay rather than GP.
If you are looking to formalize races within NS, I'm guessing that will fall squarely in RP. GPers are too lazy to bother with cannon and the like, so you would have to make your racism a populist movement as TAO & Mr. Stick did with anti-marsupialism in TWP and the NSverse. That took years to establish.

I think TWP and Fedele's TEP took anti-marsupialism to about as far as it could go in a GP setting. And now with the fires IRL, it seems in poor taste to revive such a thing. Just my opinion.

Identifying as a Bigtopian is RP. Debating in the GA is RP. Issue Answering is GP, kind of. The politcking of voting blocs in the the WA is GP, whether that power is used for GA or the SC. The politicking within Regional governments to push an issue answering or WA agenda is GP.

I wonder, after all these years, why the Issue Answerers or the GAers haven't tried advancing their causes yet.

[The Blaatschapen]

Hey, is there a chill discord where all the gameplayers hang out regardless of faction? I just want to hang back and make puns

[Flanderlion]

Hey, is there a chill discord where all the gameplayers hang out regardless of faction? I just want to hang back and make puns

https://discord.gg/xgRG6M3 is probably the closest. Chill is a optimistic word when it comes to GP, but it's fine most of the time.

[The Blaatschapen]

Hey, is there a chill discord where all the gameplayers hang out regardless of faction? I just want to hang back and make puns

https://discord.gg/xgRG6M3 is probably the closest. Chill is a optimistic word when it comes to GP, but it's fine most of the time.

In, but it feels like I have walked into the American politics of NSG right now

[Xoriet]

https://discord.gg/xgRG6M3 is probably the closest. Chill is a optimistic word when it comes to GP, but it's fine most of the time.

In, but it feels like I have walked into the American politics of NSG right now

If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

[The Blaatschapen]

In, but it feels like I have walked into the American politics of NSG right now

If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

I like disney, I've been an actor in one of their movies.

[Xoriet]

If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

I like disney, I've been an actor in one of their movies.

Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

[Drop Your Pants]

If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

Its always random shite when I'm online, think its a sign

[Bodger]

That's why I couldn't recommend it. It gets a bit too edgy and circle jerky sniggering at others.

[WayNeacTia]

I like disney, I've been an actor in one of their movies.

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Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

[Lord Dominator]

Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Honestly it's about the same as here is/was, just with a lot more talk about rl.

[Darkesia]

There are other places to go for information that involve less animosity. But I recommend popping in once a month so you can more appreciate those other places.

[Cormactopia Prime]

For all the smack people talk about the NSGP server and its administration, it's really the players who make the server what it is. The admins moderate the server about as well as any other server is moderated. If so many of the people on it think it sucks, you have to wonder why they stay on it.

TL;DR: Be part of the solution instead of constantly complaining about the problem. If that server is toxic it's because gameplay is toxic.

[Warzone Codger]

For all the smack people talk about the NSGP server and its administration, it's really the players who make the server what it is. The admins moderate the server about as well as any other server is moderated. If so many of the people on it think it sucks, you have to wonder why they stay on it.

TL;DR: Be part of the solution instead of constantly complaining about the problem. If that server is toxic it's because gameplay is toxic.

Because precisely the moderation is fine, so it'll be silly to have a fit and move away from it. It does exactly as described, a discord for GP. It's just the players.

It's still worth while to lurk and jump in when there is something of interest.

[Block II]

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

You hit the nail on the head there. That place is toxic as hell.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

[Darkesia]

Moderation in the server is fantastic IMO. It's the nature of discord to move quickly, so a spark becomes a raging firestorm in the blink of an eye. For the most part, fire suppression is spot on, at least when I peek in.

It's still the one place you can go to take the pulse of GP in general. And it's a good connection point for conversation about things that might concern all of GP or all large GP regions rather.

[WayNeacTia]

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

See I wouldn't know, as I don't use Discord. I was asking a question, based upon the information I received here. As I said before, I prefer to keep my interaction with the game and the players, inside the game.

[Block II]

Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

See I wouldn't know, as I don't use Discord. I was asking a question, based upon the information I received here. As I said before, I prefer to keep my interaction with the game and the players, inside the game.[/quote]

That’s the safest policy, in all honesty. There’s all sorts of snakes out to bite you offsite.

[Boda]

Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

See I wouldn't know, as I don't use Discord. I was asking a question, based upon the information I received here. As I said before, I prefer to keep my interaction with the game and the players, inside the game.

That’s the safest policy, in all honesty. There’s all sorts of snakes out to bite you offsite.[/quote]
But there’s “snakes” to bite u onsite too block.

[Block II]

not Really. Consider being onsite akin to wearing snake boots.