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If you could have a legacy upon the Star Wars galaxy, how would you want to be remembered?

As the fearless Jedi Knight, first into the fight against evil
3
4%
As the peacemaking Jedi Master
11
13%
As the shadow that lurks in the dark, influencing the galaxy with subtlety
9
11%
As the Sith Master that reveals themselves and dominates all opposition
18
21%
As the rogue who finds their fortune
2
2%
As the crime boss who lavishes in luxury
1
1%
As the bounty hunter that lives long enough to retire
7
8%
As the veteran soldier who fights for their cause for a lifetime
10
12%
As the daredevil explorer, placing their lives on the line to map the galaxy and reshape its very structure
10
12%
Dude, this galaxy's frickin' crazy, just let me be a normal civilian
13
15%
 
Total votes : 84

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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:51 pm

There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:56 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

No you don't. Everyone says they do until they actually are. I mean do you really want to live under a fascist empire that imprisons people for simply criticizing them, commits mass murder on a regular basis, enslaves and displaces countless beings just so they can steal their resources, along with countless other crimes? Because I do not see how one would support and want to live under such an evil and utterly despicable government.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:16 pm

Andsed wrote:
Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

No you don't. Everyone says they do until they actually are. I mean do you really want to live under a fascist empire that imprisons people for simply criticizing them, commits mass murder on a regular basis, enslaves and displaces countless beings just so they can steal their resources, along with countless other crimes? Because I do not see how one would support and want to live under such an evil and utterly despicable government.

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Postby DeltaSource » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:36 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

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Postby Immoren » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.


Life sustaining planets become superfluous curiosities once you reach SW levels of tech.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:57 pm

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Aeritai wrote:
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A small price to pay for childhood, besides I already have Disney+.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

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That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:15 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

While I also meme as an Imperial the fact is that loyalty will not protect you in the Galactic Empire.
ESPECIALLY after Operation Cinder.

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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

While I also meme as an Imperial the fact is that loyalty will not protect you in the Galactic Empire.
ESPECIALLY after Operation Cinder.


^True

Vardos was the most loyal Imperial planet in the Empire, and yet they still got storm nuked.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:10 am

Ok one thing we should all agree on. Good on JJ for trying to unfuck Leia 'flying'. Of course I like the old EU explanation that she was too passionate and quick to anger to be trained as a jedi but I really don't feel like complaining about important shit when i could whine about little shit
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Postby Myrensis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:44 am

Andsed wrote:
Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

No you don't. Everyone says they do until they actually are. I mean do you really want to live under a fascist empire that imprisons people for simply criticizing them, commits mass murder on a regular basis, enslaves and displaces countless beings just so they can steal their resources, along with countless other crimes? Because I do not see how one would support and want to live under such an evil and utterly despicable government.


Have to remember that whenever you get these people talking about how much they'd love to live an authoritarian or fascist regime, fictional or otherwise, they always do so in the assumption that they would obviously be part of the upper class/apparatus/doing the oppressing.

Doesn't even cross their minds that they would actually just be one of the peasants getting their faces ground into the dirt.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:56 am

“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:58 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”

IM actually supports these things in real life, see his comments on the Hong Kong thread.

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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:01 am

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:There is no fictional government I'd want to live under more, than the Galactic Empire. I'm an Imperial at heart. It was mighty and magnificent. All of the perks to be had from having the Emperor's favor seem pretty good. The only regrettable mistake was destroying Alderaan, but mainly because it was a valuable and beautiful lush world that supported life.

Life sustaining planets are too rare in reality, to want to destroy on a whim. Even merely laying waste to its surface would've been better.

While I also meme as an Imperial the fact is that loyalty will not protect you in the Galactic Empire.
ESPECIALLY after Operation Cinder.

Also if you fuck up you have a not insignificant chance of being killed for said failure. Basically no one should want to live under the Galactic Empire.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”

It is quite disturbing that people would willingly support genocide and slavery just for a vague promise of power.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:01 am

Seeing rise of Skywalker tonight.

As with tlj, I will be judging the movie by it's own merits and by wherever or not I enjoyed it.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:06 am

Andsed wrote:
Genivaria wrote:While I also meme as an Imperial the fact is that loyalty will not protect you in the Galactic Empire.
ESPECIALLY after Operation Cinder.

Also if you fuck up you have a not insignificant chance of being killed for said failure. Basically no one should want to live under the Galactic Empire.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”

It is quite disturbing that people would willingly support genocide and slavery just for a vague promise of power.

I will take someone stupid enough to willingly submit themselves to slavery and genocide over someone with the malicious indifference necessary to preside over a criminal system of that scale.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:39 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Ok one thing we should all agree on. Good on JJ for trying to unfuck Leia 'flying'. Of course I like the old EU explanation that she was too passionate and quick to anger to be trained as a jedi but I really don't feel like complaining about important shit when i could whine about little shit

Doesn't that still fit with what was shown in RoS?
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Postby Myrensis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:33 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”


There's usually some faff about how such regimes provide more stability and security without all the corruption and infighting of a democracy. Oppressing the peasants is just a necessary evil, and nevermind the corruption and infighting often rampant in such states anyway!

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:47 pm

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:30 pm

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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:57 pm


Honestly Stormtroopers have been badly overused. Their supposed to be the elite shock troops of the empire. Instead they have been used as regular foot soldiers(which is the role the Imperial army supposedly fills)
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:00 pm

Andsed wrote:

Honestly Stormtroopers have been badly overused. Their supposed to be the elite shock troops of the empire. Instead they have been used as regular foot soldiers(which is the role the Imperial army supposedly fills)


And we didn't unambiguously see IA stuff until Solo.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:01 pm

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:30 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:“I really would like to live under the Galactic Empire”
“But the genocide and the slavery”
“No no, I would be the one doing the oppressing”
“This calms me and alleviates any further questions”

A lot of authoritarians on the site genuinely believe that.
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