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by Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:49 am
by Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:56 am
by Farnhamia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:08 pm
by Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:14 pm
by The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:22 pm
Fahran wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Uhhuh. Ok.
I'll admit to engaging in the threadjack as well but I ducked out of that argument principally because we're not supposed to talk about impeachment here. So it wasn't just you. We were all very naughty and Farn was just giving us a gentle suggestion to get back on topic before she got out the mod swatter. Anyway, I'm back at uni so expect eco-post soon.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:36 pm
by Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:53 pm
by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:16 pm
by Aureumterra » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:22 pm
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Seems we’ve subverted war for now, the same cold war in the Gulf will continue between Iran and KSA, though, now without Iran’s strategic mastermind
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:26 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Just how important was this guy in Iran’s geopolitical game? I know he was the main one who orchestrated all of Iran’s foreign policy decisions, but will his death be a severe loss, as in his replacement won’t be able to be as efficient or smart as he was?
by Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:31 pm
Fahran wrote:Aureumterra wrote:Just how important was this guy in Iran’s geopolitical game? I know he was the main one who orchestrated all of Iran’s foreign policy decisions, but will his death be a severe loss, as in his replacement won’t be able to be as efficient or smart as he was?
He had immense symbolic value to the Iranians and to Shiite militias in Iraq. He proved himself to be strategically and tactically competent when he coordinated the recapture of Kirkurk from Kurdish separatists and he has been a constant thorn in the side of coalition forces since 2003. The guy was a pretty big deal and this could change things.
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:39 pm
San Lumen wrote:The regime isnt dumb
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:40 pm
Gormwood wrote:I doubt he would hog all the brain for himself knowing he was wanted. The second in command probably picked up a few things.
by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:18 pm
by Tobleste » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:11 pm
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:14 pm
Tobleste wrote:Given the US's current leadership, this is difficult to say. I'd be surprised if no previous US president had the chance to kill high ranking Iranians. Trump however is stupid enough to do so on a whim.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:21 pm
Fahran wrote:Tobleste wrote:Given the US's current leadership, this is difficult to say. I'd be surprised if no previous US president had the chance to kill high ranking Iranians. Trump however is stupid enough to do so on a whim.
If Iran continues the trend of backing down and we can soothe the Iraqi government, Trump will arguably have moved towards accomplishing a major geopolitical goal, especially if Iran knows they can expect retaliation every single time they escalate their proxy war against us by killing American citizens. Do I think Trump is some genius playing 4D chess? Not really. Boldness, even to the point of stupidity, does have merits at times though.
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:35 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:One thing Iran has not backed down on is their nuclear program. Admitting they don't want war with the US is admitting they don't have the means to prevent US invasion … yet.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:41 pm
Fahran wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:One thing Iran has not backed down on is their nuclear program. Admitting they don't want war with the US is admitting they don't have the means to prevent US invasion … yet.
If they abandon the nuclear deal, the Euro governments might grow a collective spine and tank their economy. Iran's economy has already shriveled by ten percent.
by Fahran » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:43 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Fahran wrote:If they abandon the nuclear deal, the Euro governments might grow a collective spine and tank their economy. Iran's economy has already shriveled by ten percent.
Back to where it was under sanctions before. Apparently it grew by 12% when sanctions were lifted.
It's surprising to me that trade with the US is that important to Iran. Medicines perhaps? But it's not oil, Europe would be a better customer.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:48 pm
Fahran wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Back to where it was under sanctions before. Apparently it grew by 12% when sanctions were lifted.
It's surprising to me that trade with the US is that important to Iran. Medicines perhaps? But it's not oil, Europe would be a better customer.
Oddly enough, the US imported more oil from Iran than one would expect. A monoculture can't afford to lose any customers.
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