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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:51 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Another day, and with it another piece of bad lawmaking from the Scottish government.

https://news.gov.scot/news/regulating-s ... NvkSiIWhz0


Allowing people who rent more power is good. Landlords should be held accountable.

This isn't about people who live in a rented house, this is about people who stay in an Airbnb for a bit while visiting, say, the Edinburgh fringe.
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Postby Philjia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:55 am

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AirBnB was always going to start getting regulated. I'm surprised it took this long.

Is there any proof it needs it though, or is it just the governments desire to regulate everything?

Joe Lycett successfully listed AirBnB's head offices as an available property on AirBnB so there probably needs to be some oversight.

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:56 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Allowing people who rent more power is good. Landlords should be held accountable.

This isn't about people who live in a rented house, this is about people who stay in an Airbnb for a bit while visiting, say, the Edinburgh fringe.


Still gives them more power.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:58 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:This isn't about people who live in a rented house, this is about people who stay in an Airbnb for a bit while visiting, say, the Edinburgh fringe.


Still gives them more power.

No it doesn't, read the actual article. It gives councils more power.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:59 am

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Still gives them more power.

No it doesn't, read the actual article. It gives councils more power.


Councils are elected by the people.
So, the people have more power over private enterprises.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:01 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:No it doesn't, read the actual article. It gives councils more power.


Councils are elected by the people.
So, the people have more power over private enterprises.

The people renting an Airbnb property are typically not ordinarily resident in the council area.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:03 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Councils are elected by the people.
So, the people have more power over private enterprises.

The people renting an Airbnb property are typically not ordinarily resident in the council area.

No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:05 am

Celritannia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The people renting an Airbnb property are typically not ordinarily resident in the council area.

No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?


Because requiring properties to be safe for human habitation is bad for the rental market.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Celritannia wrote:No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?


Because requiring properties to be safe for human habitation is bad for the rental market.

Despite being one of the main human rights?

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Celritannia wrote:No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?


Because requiring properties to be safe for human habitation is bad for the rental market.

Having to spend money on keeping the surplus population safe is bad apparently.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:08 am

Celritannia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because requiring properties to be safe for human habitation is bad for the rental market.

Despite being one of the main human rights?

That was sarcasm.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:09 am

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Because requiring properties to be safe for human habitation is bad for the rental market.

Despite being one of the main human rights?


I mean I can't think of any other reason why the Conservatives kept blocking laws meant to require such.

Totally nothing to do with how many of them rent properties to people.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:10 am

Gormwood wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Despite being one of the main human rights?

That was sarcasm.


I know, but it still baffles me.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:28 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
AirBnB was always going to start getting regulated. I'm surprised it took this long.

Is there any proof it needs it though, or is it just the governments desire to regulate everything?

"Fuck AirBnB" seems like reason enough to me.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:54 am

Celritannia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The people renting an Airbnb property are typically not ordinarily resident in the council area.

No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?

The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:03 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?

The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.


Well, they should still be held to the same standard for people.
They need to be in a safe and adequate environment.

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?

The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.

I will take the plight of hoteliers over the plight of born-in-the-purple aristocrats who think they have done something deserving respect by being born out of a rich vagina.
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.

I will take the plight of hoteliers over the plight of born-in-the-purple aristocrats who think they have done something deserving respect by being born out of a rich vagina.


Strange, most people renting somewhere out on Airbnb are quite a lot poorer than holiday inn.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:24 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.


Well, they should still be held to the same standard for people.
They need to be in a safe and adequate environment.

One disgusting thing about gig economy companies is they're usually not held to the same standards as their competetion.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:24 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:No, but they are making it safe for them.
Jeeze GVH, what's wrong with making sure people are safe and in an AirBnB that is adequate to stay in?

The people pushing for this aren't doing it because they feel sorry for the Airbnb guests, it's hoteliers mainly.


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Oh dear, the royal family are falling apart.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:29 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Oh dear, the royal family are falling apart.

Queen reportedly very disappointed that Harry and Meghan have left the House of Windsor WhatsApp group.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:38 pm

In other news Boris is proposing to scrap the Metric system as they are leaving the common market that made them adopt the rubbish. The big selling point is that Imperial pints had an extra ounce of beer so more bang for your buck at the pubs.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:41 pm

Greed and Death wrote:In other news Boris is proposing to scrap the Metric system as they are leaving the common market that made them adopt the rubbish. The big selling point is that Imperial pints had an extra ounce of beer so more bang for your buck at the pubs.


Our pubs never stopped selling imperial pints.

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