The Democrats clearly brainwashed Nixon into putting together The Plumbers.
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by Gormwood » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:14 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:15 pm
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by Bear Stearns » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:16 pm
Tobleste wrote:Fahran wrote:I don't think you're too familiar with the internal politics of the GOP. Beyond that, calling the voters sheep is still a lazy cop-out that absolves candidates who lost to Trump of all responsibility for not engaging voters.
But why did trump engage them while the others didn't? The answer to that question involves saying worse things about Republican voters than sheep.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:16 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:16 pm
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:17 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:18 pm
by San Lumen » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:18 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:19 pm
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:19 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 pm
San Lumen wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
I would qualify that. Any crime committed in office (using powers of the office, using confidential knowledge of office etc) but not "any crime".
If the President beats his wife, prosecution would be appropriate. Not impeachment.
But sitting Presidents can't be indicted. So if Trump went crazy on Secret Service agents or staff and started attacking and threatening them you couldn't indict him as far as I understand it.
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:22 pm
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:22 pm
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:23 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:24 pm
Telconi wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You're asking me for a sauce … that prosecution is the appropriate response to crime.
What do you want from me, the whole criminal code of the federal government and each of the states? Sheesh.
Specifically that impeachment is, and the clauses outlining the pu punishments for those two crimes would suffice, specifically if they say the word "impeachment".
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:24 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Telconi wrote:
Specifically that impeachment is, and the clauses outlining the pu punishments for those two crimes would suffice, specifically if they say the word "impeachment".
Two crimes are mentioned as ground for impeachment.
The impeachment clause says the President SHALL be removed on impeachment and conviction.
But it does not say the President SHALL be impeached for the commission of a crime (presumably proven some other way) or the other things.
If it did say that, I think I'd agree that impeachment replaces regular prosecution, and maybe even grants immunity for "lesser" crimes.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:27 pm
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:28 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:28 pm
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