Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge

[Minachia]

Some Anglicans are still close to Catholicism. Anglo-Catholics for example still say the Tridentine Mass just in the vernacular and afaik don't ordain women. Mainstream Anglicans got infected with the disease of low church Protestantism a long time ago.

What's wrong with ordaining women?

1 Timothy 2: "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

[Sundiata]

What's wrong with ordaining women?

1 Timothy 2: "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

Peace and quiet.

[Lower Nubia]

It would dissolve into the Anglican Ordinariate, a supranational diocese of unique, but Catholic approved, liturgical structures, with Anglican clergy either being ordained (with their consent) into the ordinariate, and prior bishops being given an honourary title.

Is the most likely outcome - of this unlikely outcome.

Are you talking about this ordinariate?

A personal ordinariate, sometimes called a "personal ordinariate for former Anglicans"[1][2] or more informally an "Anglican ordinariate",[3] is a canonical structure within the Catholic Church established in accordance with the apostolic constitution Anglicanorum coetibus of 4 November 2009[4][5][6][7] and its complementary norms.[8] The ordinariates were established in order to enable "groups of Anglicans"[9] to join the Catholic Church while preserving elements of their liturgical and spiritual patrimony. They are juridically equivalent to a diocese, "a particular church in which and from which exists the one and unique Catholic Church",[10] but may be erected in the same territory as other dioceses "by reason of the rite of the faithful or some similar reason".[10]

Three primarily Anglophone ordinariates were established between 2011 and 2012:
Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham (England and Wales, Scotland)
Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter (United States, Canada)
Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross (Australia, Japan)

Seems pretty recent, at first i thought you were talking about an older structure, from before the reformation. Or that is was more of an original idea.

Yes, I'm talking about that structure.

[Lower Nubia]

What's wrong with ordaining women?

1 Timothy 2: "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

I mean, verse 11 is applicable to men too, a male student of the time would be in full submission to a teacher and learn in silence.

Which of course, begs the question, what are they learning to do, which demands a tutor-student (Luke 10:39) relationship?

Verse 12 is surely more specific, as we have plenty of examples of women teaching men the Gospel.

[Hanafuridake]

Evangelicals are an...

[Diopolis]

Evangelicals are an...

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I remember reading an account of a Catholic apologist who met Jack Chic at complete random and had an hour long conversation with him. It was... interesting.

[Hanafuridake]

Evangelicals are an...

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I remember reading an account of a Catholic apologist who met Jack Chic at complete random and had an hour long conversation with him. It was... interesting.

I remember that as well. Chick was polite but the apologist could still tell he was a bit unhinged. For instance, Chick hinting that the Vatican had his name in some registry.

[Europa Undivided]

Evangelicals are an...

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I am technically Evangelical but I never heard of that lol.

[Celritannia]

What's wrong with ordaining women?

1 Timothy 2: "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

Good job society has adapted and looks passed that.
Otherwise we wouldn't have a the brilliance of The Vicar of Dibley.

[The Archregimancy]

Merry post Christmas

What’s the difference between catholic and Eastern Orthodox?

Eastern Orthodox Christians are witty, intelligent, debonair, urbane, and naturally smell of incense.

Roman Catholic Christians, in contrast, are; they're.... Well let's just say it's alright to pray for them; we understand their jealousy. They're only human, after all.

[Diopolis]

I remember reading an account of a Catholic apologist who met Jack Chic at complete random and had an hour long conversation with him. It was... interesting.

I remember that as well. Chick was polite but the apologist could still tell he was a bit unhinged. For instance, Chick hinting that the Vatican had his name in some registry.

Any conversation that begins with ‘are you a Jesuit assassin from the Vatican’ is like that.

[Salus Maior]

Evangelicals are an...

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Jack Chick and his kind of fundamentalist are a pretty unique kind of malicious dumbness.

[Dogmeat]

Evangelicals are an...

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Jack Chick and his kind of fundamentalist are a pretty unique kind of malicious dumbness.

Amen.

[Kowani]

Evangelicals are an...

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I am technically Evangelical but I never heard of that lol.

Lucky you.

[Hanafuridake]

Evangelicals are an...

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Jack Chick and his kind of fundamentalist are a pretty unique kind of malicious dumbness.

I'm surprised that these tracts never convinced anyone to commit an anti-Catholic hate crime.

[Salus Maior]

Jack Chick and his kind of fundamentalist are a pretty unique kind of malicious dumbness.

I'm surprised that these tracts never convinced anyone to commit an anti-Catholic hate crime.

Probably has. That being said, there is more to Evangelicalism than the likes of Chick and other fundamentalists. I know there typically aren't many advocates for Evangelicals here, but there are decent and upright parts of their movement. Even though they're theologically flawed.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-r ... Z21SI?il=0

Who doesn't love a schism?

[Salus Maior]

Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-r ... Z21SI?il=0

Who doesn't love a schism?

Protestants schisming from each other isn't news.

[The New California Republic]

United Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

Fixed. I thought that including the "united" part is both relevant and ironic.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

United Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

Fixed. I thought that including the "united" part is both relevant and ironic.

Indeed. I missed a trick there.

[Minachia]

Evangelicals are an...

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tell me about it

[Lower Nubia]

Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-r ... Z21SI?il=0

Who doesn't love a schism?

Protestants schisming from each other isn't news.

It’s in the name really.

[Minachia]

1 Timothy 2: "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

I mean, verse 11 is applicable to men too, a male student of the time would be in full submission to a teacher and learn in silence.

Which of course, begs the question, what are they learning to do, which demands a tutor-student (Luke 10:39) relationship?

Verse 12 is surely more specific, as we have plenty of examples of women teaching men the Gospel.

Such as...?

[Third ZSeparatists]

Protestants did have a point in leaving the Roman Catholic Church, and I’m saying this even though I’m Catholic.

[Diopolis]

Methodist Church plans to split over gay marriage

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-r ... Z21SI?il=0

Who doesn't love a schism?

Well who didn’t see that coming?