by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:39 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Telconi » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:43 pm
by The Legion of Mankind » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:45 pm
by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:49 pm
The Legion of Mankind wrote:Yeah it should be criminalized. Seems.... a bit primitive like you said.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Salus Maior » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:50 pm
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by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:52 pm
Salus Maior wrote:We'd have to define what "arranged marriage" is.
In certain cultural circles, arranged marriages are more like parents playing matchmaker, and still require consent by both parties to the match.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Greater Cesnica » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:54 pm
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by Sao Nova Europa » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:56 pm
by Neo Kerala » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:58 pm
by Ard al Islam » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:58 pm
by A m e n r i a » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:58 pm
by Ard al Islam » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:01 pm
by Deacarsia » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:04 pm
Ard al Islam wrote:When we say "arranged marriage," I assume we're referring to marriages where one of the parties does not wish to get married to the other, correct? That's different; that's forced marriage. If your parents pick a spouse for you and you actually want to marry them, that's great. But if they force you to marry someone you don't wanna marry? Yeah, no.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:11 pm
Deacarsia wrote:Ard al Islam wrote:When we say "arranged marriage," I assume we're referring to marriages where one of the parties does not wish to get married to the other, correct? That's different; that's forced marriage. If your parents pick a spouse for you and you actually want to marry them, that's great. But if they force you to marry someone you don't wanna marry? Yeah, no.
I do not see anything necessarily wrong with an arranged marriage, but a forced marriage clearly is wrong. Marriage requires consent.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Legion of Mankind » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:13 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:The Legion of Mankind wrote:Yeah it should be criminalized. Seems.... a bit primitive like you said.
Apparently a lot of people from Kosovo are into it, although it should be stressed that younger generations and urban populations of Albanians are far less likely to be into arranged marriage than rural populations and older people. The girl who was married to a middle aged man was Kosovar Albanian
by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:17 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:The concept of arranged marriages are a throwback to an era when marriages were more about attaining connections, evening out feuds, forging alliances, bringing powerful heirs into the world, etc. etc. In places where importance is still placed on tribes and clans (e.g Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Kyrgyzstan, etc.) arranging marriages years in advance, or even intertwining two people to be destined for each other at birth is a normal practice. Personally, I have a problem with it. It degrades women to being objects of power, and tools for producing alliances and children, and it strips the freedom of self-determination from both men and women.
Certainly, I don't believe such a practice should continue to exist in countries where such abhorrent norms of personal self-worth and of robbing young men and women of their futures is considered outdated and archaic. In respect to given traditional and religious beliefs however, if coercion is not a factor in the marriage being arranged, I believe it should be allowed. This is solely from a libertarian standpoint, as personally I vehemently oppose such a draconian practice. However, if there is any element of coercion on either side of the equation, where either party is not wholly free in their interpretation of this binding union, then the marriage should be forbidden, until such elements and pressures of coercion and force are no longer present.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:20 pm
The Legion of Mankind wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Apparently a lot of people from Kosovo are into it, although it should be stressed that younger generations and urban populations of Albanians are far less likely to be into arranged marriage than rural populations and older people. The girl who was married to a middle aged man was Kosovar Albanian
Oof seems tough.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Outer Solar System » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:23 pm
by Kowani » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:25 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:25 pm
by Rojava Free State » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:26 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Underage marriages should definitely be criminalized but I don't see any reason to ban the institution as a whole. It has resulted in just as many happy marriages as otherwise and has an insanely low divorce rate.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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