[DRAFT] Liberate The New Iron Order

[Ballpit]

The Security Council,

Acknowledging that The New Iron Order is currently foundered;

Appalled by the region's promotion of Fascism and self identification as such;

Abhorred that The New Iron Order supports an ideology of hatred and discrimination;

Concerned that The New Iron Order will attempt to indoctrinate new nations into the ideology of Fascism;

Believing that any such region does not deserve the luxury of border protection;

Further Believing that Liberating The New Iron Order will serve as a warning to other regions of the dangers of promoting an ideology of hatred and intolerance;

Noting that Liberating The New Iron Order will leave it open to invasion when the founder ceases to exist;

Hereby Liberates The New Iron Order

[Marxist Germany]

OOC: No, giving them attention doesn't shrink them

[Malphe]

All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

We should do it for the hell of it

[Ballpit]

All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.

I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD. Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO. Excellent points made though, Malphe. Thanks!

[WayNeacTia]

All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.

I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD. Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO. Excellent points made though, Malphe. Thanks!

And the liberation of the CCD has accomplished absolutely nothing, other than give them more attention.

[Tupolite]

Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO.

Although the founder of the so-called New Iron Order is indeed the same individual (Hispanyo) as the founder of the Iron Confederacy, I feel obligated to inform you that TNIO is not the legitimate successor state to TIC. Instead, that honor belongs to Nuevo Amanecer.

[Great Algerstonia]

Opposed

[Ballpit]

Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO.

Although the founder of the so-called New Iron Order is indeed the same individual (Hispanyo) as the founder of the Iron Confederacy, I feel obligated to inform you that TNIO is not the legitimate successor state to TIC. Instead, that honor belongs to Nuevo Amanecer.

Does it though? :thinking:

[BlackLight Covenant]

Never heard of them before until this proposal showed up, so either I'm living under a rock, which is definitely possible all things considered, or TNIO is fairly irrelevant, which would turn this proposal into a free ad for them.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

[Aclion]

All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.

I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD.

Which was a stupid idea of which the people involved should be ashamed and which we should not repeat.

[Lord Dominator]

I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD.

Which was a stupid idea of which the people involved should be ashamed and which we should not repeat.

I don't plan on feeling shame for that any time soon.

In regards to this proposal, the target region appears to lack size or general notoriety outside a specific group of Gameplay, for which I am thus opposed.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals

[Munkcestrian Republic]

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals

like the early WA proposals are bad enough... imagine what it was like in the UN days!

[Marxist Germany]

Just because someone is more experienced in the SC doesn't mean they can't call out lazy badgehunt attempts.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals

Hardly. If you read some of the early passed SC proposals they’re pretty poorly written and one or two would be illegal by current rules.

Anyway haven’t you got better things to do like getting an independent Northumbria.

[Ary Turn Bla]

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals

Well it is quite clearly a badge hunt and not blind accusations

[Munkcestrian Republic]

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals

Hardly. If you read some of the early passed SC proposals they’re pretty poorly written and one or two would be illegal by current rules.

Anyway haven’t you got better things to do like getting an independent Northumbria.

no shit!

damn! you have revealed my participation in NSG, what will I do now anyway no b/c the mods told me to stop posting Northumbrian independence threads

[Fauxia]

Against. The offensive liberation craze is done, and that’s a good thing.

[Gagium]

Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.

Why not?

[Borjkir Prime]

Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.

Why not?

Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Why not?

Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

Fascism isn't Nazism.

[WayNeacTia]

Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

Fascism isn't Nazism.

The main core principals of fascism are xenophobia and racism. It is close enough. Now if I was you I would stop while you are ahead here.