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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.


Israel already views Judaism as a nationality and Jewish identity is based on ancestry. Saying it's just a religion is dumb.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:37 pm

Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:40 pm

Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.


Well, yes, for conservatives it's an indisputable fact that all Jews are loyal to Israel above all else, and that they live here for the sole purpose of manipulating things to the benefit of Israel. However, fortunately for the Jews conservatives aren't actually concerned about anything but their own power, so they don't see that as a problem so much as what should be an 'easy' way to get votes by pandering to Israel.

Of course, they perpetually end up being disappointed when Jewish Americans overwhelmingly vote Democrat, which is why in any discussion about Jewish votes the inevitable and repeated Republican complaint is "I don't understand how they can keep voting Democrat when we do so much more for Israel!"

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Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.


Israel already views Judaism as a nationality and Jewish identity is based on ancestry. Saying it's just a religion is dumb.


Yeah..no. What Israel thinks shouldn't be at all relevant to US law, especially in terms of declaring that Jewish Americans are actually inherently considered to be Israelis first and foremost.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:49 pm

Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:50 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.


Well, yes, for conservatives it's an indisputable fact that all Jews are loyal to Israel above all else, and that they live here for the sole purpose of manipulating things to the benefit of Israel. However, fortunately for the Jews conservatives aren't actually concerned about anything but their own power, so they don't see that as a problem so much as what should be an 'easy' way to get votes by pandering to Israel.

Of course, they perpetually end up being disappointed when Jewish Americans overwhelmingly vote Democrat, which is why in any discussion about Jewish votes the inevitable and repeated Republican complaint is "I don't understand how they can keep voting Democrat when we do so much more for Israel!"

But Ilhan Omar sets them pointing and shrieking like Body Snatchers. Oh the hypocrisy.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:11 pm


Reminder thay the wall is a massive waste of money and time.

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Postby Aclion » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:59 pm

Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.

Why would that make a difference?
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Seema Verma who, as a senior figure in the Trump administration, has made it more difficult for poor Americans to access health coverage, has filed a claim of $47,000 for the loss of her luggage while on a three-day work trip.

According to Politico, Verma filed the claim on 28 August 2018 after having her luggage stolen while giving a speech in San Francisco. Her expenses included 20 pieces of jewellery, which sounds reasonable for a three day-work trip – if you are Snoop Dogg.

She had originally estimated the cost of those pieces at $20,000, but came back with the higher $43,065 price tag after visiting a jeweler three weeks after the theft. Because sometimes you’re just that rich that you forget about that extra 20 grand you dropped at the jewelers.


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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:14 pm

Donald McCheater.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:18 pm

Bombadil wrote:Seema Verma who, as a senior figure in the Trump administration, has made it more difficult for poor Americans to access health coverage, has filed a claim of $47,000 for the loss of her luggage while on a three-day work trip.

According to Politico, Verma filed the claim on 28 August 2018 after having her luggage stolen while giving a speech in San Francisco. Her expenses included 20 pieces of jewellery, which sounds reasonable for a three day-work trip – if you are Snoop Dogg.

She had originally estimated the cost of those pieces at $20,000, but came back with the higher $43,065 price tag after visiting a jeweler three weeks after the theft. Because sometimes you’re just that rich that you forget about that extra 20 grand you dropped at the jewelers.


No swamp activity here, please move on.


Everyone should have to buy health insurance but the idea of travel insurance is beyond Trump officials and the government should cover them. Bunch of cunts.

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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Seema Verma who, as a senior figure in the Trump administration, has made it more difficult for poor Americans to access health coverage, has filed a claim of $47,000 for the loss of her luggage while on a three-day work trip.

According to Politico, Verma filed the claim on 28 August 2018 after having her luggage stolen while giving a speech in San Francisco. Her expenses included 20 pieces of jewellery, which sounds reasonable for a three day-work trip – if you are Snoop Dogg.

She had originally estimated the cost of those pieces at $20,000, but came back with the higher $43,065 price tag after visiting a jeweler three weeks after the theft. Because sometimes you’re just that rich that you forget about that extra 20 grand you dropped at the jewelers.


No swamp activity here, please move on.


Everyone should have to buy health insurance but the idea of travel insurance is beyond Trump officials and the government should cover them. Bunch of cunts.


Just switch to universal healthcare, come on.
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:35 pm

Aclion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.

Why would that make a difference?


Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:36 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Aclion wrote:Why would that make a difference?


Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.


You mean most Jews, given the existence of the term, "Diaspora".
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:41 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Aclion wrote:Why would that make a difference?


Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.


I'm sure AIPAC will be pleased.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.


I'm sure AIPAC will be pleased.


The Cheeto needs all the help he can get. :P

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:43 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Aclion wrote:Why would that make a difference?


Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.
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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:43 pm

Cohen, Schiff. They are all faithful democrats of the American society.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:46 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.


Not necessarily: Not if Jews are defined as their own ethno-religious group. That doesnt equals with them being Israeli. Being Israeli doesnt necessarily requires one to be jewish however. (Druzes for example, who also serve in the IDF)
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
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looooooooool these people are insane

He'll call the Russian hacker known as Four Chan to give himself 69% of the electoral vote.


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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 pm

Nakena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.


Not necessarily: Not if Jews are defined as their own ethno-religious group. That doesnt equals with them being Israeli. Being Israeli doesnt necessarily requires one to be jewish however. (Druzes for example, who also serve in the IDF)


To support this claim, God stated both Jews and Gentiles can be faithful, thus being Christians.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:48 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.


Yes, we should do this. Infact, we should expand this for all branches too :^)

I wonder how many leadership positions and senior staff might open up :^))))

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:49 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I'm sure AIPAC will be pleased.


The Cheeto needs all the help he can get. :P


I'd laugh old boy but I might sob a bit too.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:50 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Gormwood wrote:As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.


Yes, we should do this. Infact, we should expand this for all branches too :^)

I wonder how many leadership positions and senior staff might open up :^))))


Not to mention also in the SCOTUS and elsewhere.

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:51 pm

Nakena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Yes, we should do this. Infact, we should expand this for all branches too :^)

I wonder how many leadership positions and senior staff might open up :^))))


Not to mention also in the SCOTUS and elsewhere.


Good point. I was just memeing about certain lobbyists. That would be quite a bit more controversial.

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Postby Gim » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Not to mention also in the SCOTUS and elsewhere.


Good point. I was just memeing about certain lobbyists. That would be quite a bit more controversial.


Linda Kim and Go Hae-Ri are the notorious amongst African-related lobbyists, I believe.
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