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2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
65
62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
11
10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:29 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:None of that is evidence of criminal wrongdoing

That's what I just said. It would take an investigation to determine if anything illegal was done.

Why hasnt there been an investigation considering how much Trump hates her?

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:30 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Surprised the house hasn’t tried skull fucking him yet.

Nobody wants to read your Trumprotica.


why do i have to guess if i go digging far enough i'd find material relating to an apparent 'pissing on a bed' incident?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:31 pm

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Loben The 2nd wrote:She is however accused of being A Qatari asset.

Personally I feel she should be thoroughly investigated.

And rigorously questioned by the FBI and CIA.


Significant portions of our government are agents of Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and Mexico.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:That's what I just said. It would take an investigation to determine if anything illegal was done.

Why hasnt there been an investigation considering how much Trump hates her?

Because Trump does not wield dictatorial powers to launch investigations at will. He may try but it doesn't work like that.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:34 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why hasnt there been an investigation considering how much Trump hates her?

Because Trump does not wield dictatorial powers to launch investigations at will. He may try but it doesn't work like that.

I know but im surprised he hasnt called on the Justice Department to investigate her and Congresswoman Tlaib.

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:39 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:She is however accused of being A Qatari asset.

Personally I feel she should be thoroughly investigated.

And rigorously questioned by the FBI and CIA.


Significant portions of our government are agents of Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and Mexico.

That swamp looks like it needs some draining
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:40 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:She is however accused of being A Qatari asset.

Personally I feel she should be thoroughly investigated.

And rigorously questioned by the FBI and CIA.


Significant portions of our government are agents of Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and Mexico.

What's your evidence?

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Significant portions of our government are agents of Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and Mexico.

What's your evidence?


AIPAC alone is enough

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:04 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nobody wants to read your Trumprotica.


why do i have to guess if i go digging far enough i'd find material relating to an apparent 'pissing on a bed' incident?

Oh honey, I'm just following examples after I was given a talk.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:22 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
why do i have to guess if i go digging far enough i'd find material relating to an apparent 'pissing on a bed' incident?

Oh honey, I'm just following examples after I was given a talk.


what?
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:28 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh honey, I'm just following examples after I was given a talk.


what?


Don't egg him on into more weird sexual analogies, what we get is bad enough as is.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:34 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
what?


Don't egg him on into more weird sexual analogies, what we get is bad enough as is.


im not going to ask.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh honey, I'm just following examples after I was given a talk.


what?


The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish and brings it up, then you mention skull fucking.

He hit you wit dat uno reverse card.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:48 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
what?


The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish

Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:51 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish

Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.


One is reminded of the situation within the Late Republic. Foreign powers would bribe X group for Y application of the state's power.

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:53 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish

Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

And you wonder why you got the boot.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:54 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish

Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.


Foreign lobbying isn't new, and isn't strictly illegal.

Whatever Donald Trump did wasn't that, though. Neither is the Russia 2016 case.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:55 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.


Foreign lobbying isn't new, and isn't strictly illegal.

Whatever Donald Trump did wasn't that, though. Neither is the Russia 2016 case.


It's apparently illegal enough to drag a man through the courts to near bankruptcy. Why aren't why doing that to the whole lot?

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.


Foreign lobbying isn't new, and isn't strictly illegal.

Whatever Donald Trump did wasn't that, though. Neither is the Russia 2016 case.

Pressuring foreign governments for domestic political gains is a no no I believe.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:57 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

Anyway, foreign powers lobbying the US government is nothing new. I thought it was one of those more blatantly obvious things. I mean, a lot of progressives used to point out foreign ties in the Bush administration, then the same was done when it came to foreign influence in the Obama administration. Tbh it's going to be impossible to solve given America's place as a global power. It's inevitably going to get dragged into internal shenanigans in some other country at some point.


One is reminded of the situation within the Late Republic. Foreign powers would bribe X group for Y application of the state's power.

Yes. America finds itself in a rather familiar stage of development. Tbh either the federal government is weakened considerably and America pulls back from the world or it loses its republican system of government in favor of something else that increases stabilizes and formalizes the imperial bureaucracy.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:59 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Foreign lobbying isn't new, and isn't strictly illegal.

Whatever Donald Trump did wasn't that, though. Neither is the Russia 2016 case.

Pressuring foreign governments for domestic political gains is a no no I believe.


The Ukie PM said no such thing happened :^)

Politico on the other hand, they have lots of good info on Clinton and Ukraine. I think we need an investigation, don't you Gauth? It's a damning allegation. Perhaps a Mueller style look in

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:00 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
One is reminded of the situation within the Late Republic. Foreign powers would bribe X group for Y application of the state's power.

Yes. America finds itself in a rather familiar stage of development. Tbh either the federal government is weakened considerably and America pulls back from the world or it loses its republican system of government in favor of something else that increases stabilizes and formalizes the imperial bureaucracy.


I for one look forward to proxy wars in Africa against China over gay rights by the American Empire.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:05 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.

And you wonder why you got the boot.

And uh, you know, things like calling me a “sanctimonious ‘c***’”. Soooo yeah. Ouch?

Who even is running from the Republican Party, beside Trump? I very clearly missed any additions to the race. Then again, I have been trying my best to ignore all the news I get from the NYT, because it’s about nothing but impeachment. I’m also too lazy to unsubscribe to the NYT.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:07 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Gormwood wrote:
And you wonder why you got the boot.

And uh, you know, things like calling me a “sanctimonious ‘c***’” and essentially hoping I get raped. Soooo yeah. Ouch?

Who even is running from the Republican Party, beside Trump? I very clearly missed any additions to the race. Then again, I have been trying my best to ignore all the news I get from the NYT, because it’s about nothing but impeachment. I’m also too lazy to unsubscribe to the NYT.


It's practically just Trump, there are like two other candidates but they're too low-profile to make a dent.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:09 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Luminesa wrote:And uh, you know, things like calling me a “sanctimonious ‘c***’” and essentially hoping I get raped. Soooo yeah. Ouch?

Who even is running from the Republican Party, beside Trump? I very clearly missed any additions to the race. Then again, I have been trying my best to ignore all the news I get from the NYT, because it’s about nothing but impeachment. I’m also too lazy to unsubscribe to the NYT.


It's practically just Trump, there are like two other candidates but they're too low-profile to make a dent.

Eh, still slightly curious.
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