Proposed Change: Flags saluted per person per day.
by Leutria » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:47 pm
by Flanderlion » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:15 pm
by Leutria » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:19 pm
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Well, while we're waiting...
Patriotism is a funny one, as it will eventually largely depend on a new backstage stat that isn't yet coded into the game. The beta only reveals the smaller effect that will be calculated from existing numbers, and provides only a baseline. Once it goes live, issues will be rejigged with a view to assessing how patriotic various options are, and coding changes directly onto those. With admin's permission, I might start the work ahead of it going live.
Of all the new stats, it's the one where the beta least resembles what it will finally look like in play.
by Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:43 pm
by Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:09 am
by Minoa » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:48 am
by Bears Armed » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:52 am
Minoa wrote:I have been thinking of an example of strong patriotism that the index could be named after, and I remember that in Turkey, there is very strong level of patriotism about their first president, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
by Lillorainen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:14 pm
Bears Armed wrote:Minoa wrote:I have been thinking of an example of strong patriotism that the index could be named after, and I remember that in Turkey, there is very strong level of patriotism about their first president, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
"flags waved" might be suitable as a less RL-tied scale.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:06 am
by Vivolkha » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:46 am
by Rainbowsix » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:49 am
by Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:20 pm
by Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 am
by Outer Sparta » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:09 am
Lord Dominator wrote:Not really related to your query, but there is an argument to be made that patriotism would be high in both totalitarian states and states high in happiness stats or similar. That is, if patriotism measures surface-level liking of the state, there isn't much of a difference from it being from fear vs love.
by Vivolkha » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:14 am
Lord Dominator wrote:Not really related to your query, but there is an argument to be made that patriotism would be high in both totalitarian states and states high in happiness stats or similar. That is, if patriotism measures surface-level liking of the state, there isn't much of a difference from it being from fear vs love.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:44 am
by Aclion » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:There are no visible primary stats.
by Sanctaria » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:09 pm
by Merconitonitopia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:31 pm
Vivolkha wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:Not really related to your query, but there is an argument to be made that patriotism would be high in both totalitarian states and states high in happiness stats or similar. That is, if patriotism measures surface-level liking of the state, there isn't much of a difference from it being from fear vs love.
It seems to be largely unrelated to Cheerfulness, as my main nation and two of my puppets have all top 10% or better Cheerfulness and very different Patriotism scores (0.68, roughly 18 and roughly 36). Also, it is stated that when implemented this could be a primary stat.
by Vivolkha » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:58 pm
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:There are no visible primary stats.
What I said was that once implemented, a new primary stat will be created that will heavily affect this stat, and it will be this issue stat that is used on options that are patriotic or unpatriotic. That doesn't mean that what you see will be the primary stat.
by Myledia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:44 pm
by Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:50 pm
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by Merconitonitopia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:53 pm
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