The Iron Curtain: A Cold War RP (OOC, Reboot, Open)

[Asardia]

As I looked for maps for references, it seemed both those nations were under British control.

Yes, but an independent South Africa would complicate the situation. Lesotho is surrounded by South Africa, and Swaziland has no connection to Britain, land or sea.

Hmmm. In that case I'll edit the map of South Africa then.

Well, the last time I used to be the Malayan Federation Hypron' was cool with it since I allowed him to continue to base his military and I have no desire to change the arrangement.
The reason why I made the two leaders historically from Singapore is that I know their policies better than the Malaysian version as I live in said country.

Alright. The app is accepted

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I'm also thinking we need to start the IC soon. China is too important to be unresolved right now, so if I don't see anything from United Elemental Nations, then China will once again be open for apps. In any case, I am aiming for Saturday for the IC

[Totally Not OEP]

For South Africa, Swaziland and Lesotho should be independent. The former should be a Portuguese protectorate.

Both Swaziland and Lesotho are indeed independent, in a sense. They, like South Africa, are a part of the Commonwealth, but are under British influence.

[The Felan Federation]

Country Name: Federation of India

Head of State/Government: Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru

Type of Government: Federal parliamentary constitutional republic

Capital: New Delhi

Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) India

Population: ~400 million people

Faction: Non-Aligned

History: The Partition of India and Pakistan went off as expected after the victory of the National Congress and the Muslim League in the first ever elections in India. Expecting turmoil, the Muslim League and the Indian National Congress, worked in tandem for the first and last time in their history in making sure the partition of the two states would happen without conflict - while a few incidents happened - both political factions denounced and helped in mitigating the damage caused by the mass migration of people and cultures.

[Asardia]

Updates before IC starts

FULL Roster List

Accepted Nations:
Soviet Union (my app is listed in the OP): Asardia
Colombia: State of Yelm
Confederacy of South African Republics: Confederate American SU
Patagonia: Lemlar
Ethiopia: Agarntrop
East Germany: Puertollano
United States: Dentali
French Republic: Kamchakta
United Kingdom: Hypron
North Korea/Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea: Nazeroth
Kingdom of Italy: Arvenia
Kingdom of Spain: Totally Not OEP
South Vietnam/People's Federation of Indochina: Nebelhalbinsel
West Germany/Federal Republic of Germany: New Finnish Republic
Federal Republic of Filipinas: Greater Seludong
Republic of Malaysia: Chinese Kaohsiung
Guatemala: The Hoosier Alliance
Federation of India: The Felan Federation

Factions

The Kaiserreich Movement: New Finnish Republic

Map

Alliance Map

World Map

China needs to be resolved quickly. I'll telegram UEN and see where to go from there.

[Nazeroth]

Im bout to stir up trouble

[Nebelhalbinsel]

Country Name: Federal Republic of Filipinas
Head of State/Government: Manuel A. Roxas
Type of Government: Federal presidential constitutional republic
Capital: Manila
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)

(Image)

Population: 19,234,182
Faction: Non-aligned but towards NATO
History: OTL History but 1935 Consitutional Convention mandates the Philippines to be federal.

Should I referred to your peoples as "Filipinos" or "Filipinas" ?

Asardia, did you just put Laos, Kampuchea and North Vietnam into one group ?

One more thing, North Vietnam is aligning with the socialists.

[Kamchakta]

Country Name: Federal Republic of Filipinas
Head of State/Government: Manuel A. Roxas
Type of Government: Federal presidential constitutional republic
Capital: Manila
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)

(Image)

Population: 19,234,182
Faction: Non-aligned but towards NATO
History: OTL History but 1935 Consitutional Convention mandates the Philippines to be federal.

Should I referred to your peoples as "Filipinos" or "Filipinas" ?

Asardia, did you just put Laos, Kampuchea and North Vietnam into one group ?

One more thing, North Vietnam is aligning with the socialists.

Wait, I am confused. You can only control one country which in this case I am assuming you are controlling South Vietnam. Will the other nations be placeholders?

Also, to confirm I would like to say that France only in this timeline has allowed Indochina off for the sake of gameplay and assuming France is sick of the unrest there with no real strategic or economic value (Despite the coffee). The rest of the colonies are under her as IRL 1950s.

[Asardia]

Country Name: Federal Republic of Filipinas
Head of State/Government: Manuel A. Roxas
Type of Government: Federal presidential constitutional republic
Capital: Manila
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)

(Image)

Population: 19,234,182
Faction: Non-aligned but towards NATO
History: OTL History but 1935 Consitutional Convention mandates the Philippines to be federal.

Should I referred to your peoples as "Filipinos" or "Filipinas" ?

Asardia, did you just put Laos, Kampuchea and North Vietnam into one group ?

One more thing, North Vietnam is aligning with the socialists.

Yes. Laos, Cambodia and NV were all part of French Indochina. As Kamchakta said, South Vietnam was only released on your request. The 1954 Geneve Conference has not yet happened, and the French have not released any other colonies. Kamchakta pointed this out when you said Algeria was released by France in your app.

Speaking of which, what's the status for the rest of the colonies? Has the First Indochina War ended with the release of SV?

[Union Princes]

Has UEN responded?

[Nebelhalbinsel]

Should I referred to your peoples as "Filipinos" or "Filipinas" ?

Asardia, did you just put Laos, Kampuchea and North Vietnam into one group ?

One more thing, North Vietnam is aligning with the socialists.

Yes. Laos, Cambodia and NV were all part of French Indochina. As Kamchakta said, South Vietnam was only released on your request. The 1954 Geneve Conference has not yet happened, and the French have not released any other colonies. Kamchakta pointed this out when you said Algeria was released by France in your app.

Speaking of which, what's the status for the rest of the colonies? Has the First Indochina War ended with the release of SV?

Should I referred to your peoples as "Filipinos" or "Filipinas" ?

Asardia, did you just put Laos, Kampuchea and North Vietnam into one group ?

One more thing, North Vietnam is aligning with the socialists.

Wait, I am confused. You can only control one country which in this case I am assuming you are controlling South Vietnam. Will the other nations be placeholders?

Also, to confirm I would like to say that France only in this timeline has allowed Indochina off for the sake of gameplay and assuming France is sick of the unrest there with no real strategic or economic value (Despite the coffee). The rest of the colonies are under her as IRL 1950s.

Kamchakta, if you release only South Vietnam, then the First Indochina War still happened, because after the August Revolution in 1945, the communists under Nguyễn Sinh Cung (Hồ Chí Minh) seized control of North Vietnam and founded the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. The First Indochina War can't ended simply by the release of South Vietnam, the North Vietnamese will fight with teeth and claws until Paris recognize the Democratic Republic. France can occupy Laos and Cambodia, for the resistance of the locals are quiet weak when comparing to Vietnam.

Maybe things can go differently... with the independence of South Vietnam, the northerners flood to the new nation but some decide to stay and fight for the Democratic Republic, thus weaker forces to resist French invasion and North Vietnam return to France control somewhere before 1950, before the French government declare the war as worthless ?

Well, if that what you want, then I'm cool with that. One more thing what make the People's Federation of Indochina different from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam is ideology. The Indochinese is democratic-nationalist combined, while the Vietnamese is communist-nationalist hybrid.

[Asardia]

Has UEN responded?

Not yet. I'd you really want to, get an app up

Yes. Laos, Cambodia and NV were all part of French Indochina. As Kamchakta said, South Vietnam was only released on your request. The 1954 Geneve Conference has not yet happened, and the French have not released any other colonies. Kamchakta pointed this out when you said Algeria was released by France in your app.

Speaking of which, what's the status for the rest of the colonies? Has the First Indochina War ended with the release of SV?

Wait, I am confused. You can only control one country which in this case I am assuming you are controlling South Vietnam. Will the other nations be placeholders?

Also, to confirm I would like to say that France only in this timeline has allowed Indochina off for the sake of gameplay and assuming France is sick of the unrest there with no real strategic or economic value (Despite the coffee). The rest of the colonies are under her as IRL 1950s.

Kamchakta, if you release only South Vietnam, then the First Indochina War still happened, because after the August Revolution in 1945, the communists under Nguyễn Sinh Cung (Hồ Chí Minh) seized control of North Vietnam and founded the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. The First Indochina War can't ended simply by the release of South Vietnam, the North Vietnamese will fight with teeth and claws until Paris recognize the Democratic Republic. France can occupy Laos and Cambodia, for the resistance of the locals are quiet weak when comparing to Vietnam.

Maybe things can go differently... with the independence of South Vietnam, the northerners flood to the new nation but some decide to stay and fight for the Democratic Republic, thus weaker forces to resist French invasion and North Vietnam return to France control somewhere before 1950, before the French government declare the war as worthless ?

Well, if that what you want, then I'm cool with that. One more thing what make the People's Federation of Indochina different from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam is ideology. The Indochinese is democratic-nationalist combined, while the Vietnamese is communist-nationalist hybrid.

So if the Indochina War hasn't ended with the release of South Vietnam, what would be the point of releasing it at all? The French would still continue to fight as they did irl. I was under the impression that Indochina would be decolonized, and since you're SV, you were released first.

At this point, the Geneve Conference hasn't happened, so the partition of the colony hasn't happened either. So is the entire colony now independent, or is the war still ongoing?

[The Hoosier Alliance]

If you guys don't mind me saying, but I'd suggest just continuing the war in Indochina for historical sake, as well as for RP purposes. Also, is South Vietnam going socialist/communist in this version of SV?

[Kamchakta]

Has UEN responded?

Not yet. I'd you really want to, get an app up

Kamchakta, if you release only South Vietnam, then the First Indochina War still happened, because after the August Revolution in 1945, the communists under Nguyễn Sinh Cung (Hồ Chí Minh) seized control of North Vietnam and founded the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. The First Indochina War can't ended simply by the release of South Vietnam, the North Vietnamese will fight with teeth and claws until Paris recognize the Democratic Republic. France can occupy Laos and Cambodia, for the resistance of the locals are quiet weak when comparing to Vietnam.

Maybe things can go differently... with the independence of South Vietnam, the northerners flood to the new nation but some decide to stay and fight for the Democratic Republic, thus weaker forces to resist French invasion and North Vietnam return to France control somewhere before 1950, before the French government declare the war as worthless ?

Well, if that what you want, then I'm cool with that. One more thing what make the People's Federation of Indochina different from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam is ideology. The Indochinese is democratic-nationalist combined, while the Vietnamese is communist-nationalist hybrid.

So if the Indochina War hasn't ended with the release of South Vietnam, what would be the point of releasing it at all? The French would still continue to fight as they did irl. I was under the impression that Indochina would be decolonized, and since you're SV, you were released first.

At this point, the Geneve Conference hasn't happened, so the partition of the colony hasn't happened either. So is the entire colony now independent, or is the war still ongoing?

The 1st Indochina war has already occurred (By 1950, at least 10,000 French Soldiers have already died) and France pulled out of Indochina due to the slog that combat in the jungle was (including Laos and Cambodia which I am assuming are just placeholder nations now, establishing Democratic governments in said regions. Vietnam was supposed to be the Democratic Republic with its capital in Saigon (Your nation) but as you stated the Communist in the North won't let that happen and will fight this creation of a new state that they view is a creation of the French (plus they don't like the whole Democracy thing)

Hence the nations in the region are
Laos (Democratic)
Kampuchea (Democratic)
North Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh (Communist)
South Vietnam (The Nation you are RPing)

South Vietnam, Laos and Kampuchea still have some French soldiers that were there to help the transition but the French Soldiers in NV (Hai Phong) have long been kicked out.

As to the condition of West Africa, Madagascar, New Caledonia, Guyana and the Carribean and Pacific Islands, they are all still under France.

[Kamchakta]

If you guys don't mind me saying, but I'd suggest just continuing the war in Indochina for historical sake, as well as for RP purposes. Also, is South Vietnam going socialist/communist in this version of SV?

Yup, no doubt there will still be conflict as there are French Soldiers trying to help the transition. But the premise of the Indochina War will be that France has engaged in a policy of decolonisation in turning region into the safe hands of democratic states but the NV resists. It won't be so much a conflict of independence.

[United Elemental Nations]

On China


I suggest splitting China in half like Korea, the Northern half being Communist and the Southern half being Nationalist

I can do that though I want the nationalist side which I believe is south China.

[Dentali]

On China


I suggest splitting China in half like Korea, the Northern half being Communist and the Southern half being Nationalist

I can do that though I want the nationalist side which I believe is south China.

Yes indeed

[American Pere Housh]

Is South Korea still open? If not I might choose Thailand.

[Asardia]

Is South Korea still open? If not I might choose Thailand.

South Korea is open.

Also, the IC will be up today. UEN, make sure to post your revised app here

[Union Princes]

What the, how many people want to play as China?

[Asardia]

What the, how many people want to play as China?

UEN made the original China app. If they decide to go with a nationalist China, the country would be split between the two sides. If you want, you can go with Mao Zedong's northern half

[Totally Not OEP]

What the, how many people want to play as China?

UEN made the original China app. If they decide to go with a nationalist China, the country would be split between the two sides. If you want, you can go with Mao Zedong's northern half

Since you're OP, have you decided on any of the maps for China?

[Asardia]

UEN made the original China app. If they decide to go with a nationalist China, the country would be split between the two sides. If you want, you can go with Mao Zedong's northern half

Since you're OP, have you decided on any of the maps for China?

Probably the most recent one Dentali made. The reasoning for the communists not winning will need to be explained further though.

Also IC will be up today

[Union Princes]

Eh, Communist China is not my kind of thing.

Probably just do what Finland had done and do the Blue Shirt Movement in the National China

[Puertollano]

I'm looking forward to the IC.

[Asardia]

Eh, Communist China is not my kind of thing.

Probably just do what Finland had done and do the Blue Shirt Movement in the National China

If you don't mind me asking, what were you planning on doing for China?

I'm looking forward to the IC.

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