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Legal on Request
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45%
Restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health, physical health, rape, fetal defects and/or socioeconomic factors
10
6%
Restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health, physical health, rape and/or fetal defects
11
7%
Restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health, physical health and/or rape
12
8%
Restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health and/or physical health
4
3%
Restricted to cases of maternal life
22
14%
Illegal with no exceptions
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17%
 
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Postby Te Netherlands » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:44 pm

Illegal with no exceptions
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Te Netherlands wrote:Illegal with no exceptions

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Postby West Libertas » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:24 am

Abortion is illegal except in the case of maternal life. Though WL's majority religions are Jewish and Protestant Christian, this legislation stems from our scientist's consensus that life beings at conception. Pregnant cancer patients cannot obtain abortions (again, unless there are additional complications that would end the mother's life if the pregnancy was brought to term), but they are able to choose radiation and any other necessary treatment while pregnant and are not held criminally or civilly liable if said treatment kills the child.

Abortion doctors are put to death if convicted, and pregnant mothers (as well as anyone else who is convicted of knowingly assisting with the deed) are given 5 years in prison if they are convicted of willingly going along with it. (For obvious reasons, minors who are given abortions by adults are not held liable in any way.) While WL usually gives the death penalty for all who cause a premeditated murder regardless of who actually does the deed, we do take into account hormonal imbalances that might have affected the mother's decision-making skills at the time, as well as how they are a symbol of emotional persuasion for those that surround them.

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West Libertas wrote:Abortion is illegal except in the case of maternal life. Though WL's majority religions are Jewish and Protestant Christian, this legislation stems from our scientist's consensus that life beings at conception. Pregnant cancer patients cannot obtain abortions (again, unless there are additional complications that would end the mother's life if the pregnancy was brought to term), but they are able to choose radiation and any other necessary treatment while pregnant and are not held criminally or civilly liable if said treatment kills the child.

Abortion doctors are put to death if convicted, and pregnant mothers (as well as anyone else who is convicted of knowingly assisting with the deed) are given 5 years in prison if they are convicted of willingly going along with it. (For obvious reasons, minors who are given abortions by adults are not held liable in any way.) While WL usually gives the death penalty for all who cause a premeditated murder regardless of who actually does the deed, we do take into account hormonal imbalances that might have affected the mother's decision-making skills at the time, as well as how they are a symbol of emotional persuasion for those that surround them.

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Postby Catarra » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:43 pm

It's restricted after the first 12 weeks to cases: Of phoetal defects, rape, risk for mother life or mental health.

For socioeconomics reasons is required a judge veredict. Although baby donation for adobtion is a given alternative option.

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Postby Imperial Majapahit » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:58 am

According to the Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Pidana (the Criminal Law), abortion in Majapahit is restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health, physical health and/or rape. The reason that socio-economic factors weren't put in the list of allowed cases for abortion was said to have been because of a speech Emperor Jayanagara IV made in around 1916 during the inauguration of a new government, several months before the current criminal law was put into effect by the legislature. The Emperor stated that:

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Postby Thixianist People » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:01 pm

Abortion is Illegal with no exceptions in The United Fiefdoms of Thixianist People.
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Thixianist People wrote:Abortion is Illegal with no exceptions in The United Fiefdoms of Thixianist People.

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Pacomia wrote:
Thixianist People wrote:Abortion is Illegal with no exceptions in The United Fiefdoms of Thixianist People.

This is actually getting kind of funny.

Read the top of the page.

you think this is funny? you should see the death penalty index one
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Postby Apiary One » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:55 pm

According to the Honeybee Doctrine (the set of social, economic, and political policies guiding Apiary One), the individual exists for no reason other than to ensure the continued survival of the colony. Any obstacles that stand in the way of efficiency and productivity (e.g. civil rights, due process, elections) are all but eliminated.

So what does this mean for abortion?

We'll need to see things in the wider context of Apian family structure and child-rearing. In Apiary One, all individuals are the property of the government. This puts to rest the never-ending question of whether the mother or baby has more rights: neither; the state owns both and will exploit them for maximum gain. In fact, the state retains a monopoly on the entire reproductive process, from conception to birth to parenting. It's like a great big factory that cranks out future workers and soldiers.

The journey begins at the Job Lottery, which takes place annually in each of the Hives. There, Apian citizens who've turned 18 are assigned the jobs they'll hold for life, based on criteria such as physical fitness and talents. For women, the possibilities are nursing, teaching, and breeding; we'll focus on the third group.

The new Reproductives are microchipped and barcoded with their occupations. Then they're transported to Replication Centers, where they'll spend the rest of their lives creating the new generation of Apian citizens. Intercourse is outlawed; conception is achieved using IVF, using sperm from a sperm bank. Only the strongest and most prolific male workers may become sires (collection is done under general anesthesia using an electroshock device, like with cattle).

9 months later, the baby is born! He and his family live happily ever after, right? NOT SO FAST. Immediately after birth, newborns are whisked away from their mothers by robotic midwives and taken to the Quality Assurance room, where they're subjected to a battery of tests to verify their physical and genetic health. Those who are healthy are sent to a Nursery Center to begin their care and prepare them for indoctrination. What about those who aren't so lucky? For them, it's the end of the road. In the purely utilitarian views espoused by the Honeybee Doctrine, these individuals represent nothing but a burden on colony resources.

In the same vein, if it's known that an embryo will be born with defects that could affect the ability to work, Replication Center officials will order the gestation terminated. However, the authority to make this decision wholly rests with the state, not the individual mother. Performing an unsanctioned abortion is punished as treason, because it is a grave offense against the survival of the colony. What about if the conception was due to rape or incest? As mentioned, all intercourse is illegal in Apiary One, so both the man and the woman would be punished, and the illegal embryo would be immediately ordered destroyed.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:54 pm

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Abortion in Thermodolia is legal on request nationally, and federally on all federal lands and military bases. The republics and commonwealths have the ability to make abortion illegal however none have done so.

Only the Traditional Republic of Fêthænthdóla bans on demand abortion. Abortions here may be conducted due to the health of the mother, rape, or incest.

However it should be noted that these laws only apply to First and Second Trimester abortions, Third Trimester abortions are federally illegal in the Thermodolia
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Postby The New Dog Nation » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 am

Abortions are legal on request, and are consider part of the healthcare system, meaning they are covered by the NDN Health Service. Of course, some do choice not to get one for any number of reasons, and any health concerns that may come up during the pregnancy are also covered by the Health Service. It is worth noting that there are technically no abortions laws neither legalizing it nor regulating it on the record as it has always been seen as a regular medical procedure, so it was lumped with the rest of the covered procedures.
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Postby Gopnikea » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:26 am

Legal only in cases such as endangered maternal life or rape. In other cases, its illegal.

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Postby Anteja » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:30 am

Legal in cases where the mother's life is threatened only. Other than that, it's considered murder. But in this case, it's self defense.

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Postby The Empire of Occitania » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:31 am

Abortion is completely legal in Occitania. In Occitan law, abortion is a legal right that should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered.
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Postby Myrsovia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:53 am

Abortion is legal in Myrsovia up to 12 weeks

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Postby Estainia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:56 am

Abortion in the Empire is a case of being restricted to cases of maternal life, mental health, physical health, rape and/or fetal defects.

Socially it is seen as wholly unacceptable, though the population is great enough and varied enough in opinion that there are tens of millions who simply don't give a damn one way or the other.
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:03 am

Within the Imperial Commonwealth, an individual's right to chose for themselves is first and foremost the main aspect of any decision in regards to bodily sovereignty.

Thus it is Legal on Request
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Postby Katas » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:19 pm

Abortion is legal upon request in Katas, but between mandatory comprehensive sex education in schools, government subsidies for contraception, the general high cost of raising a child/lack of space for a growing population, and the complete lack of any form of welfare for child rearing, the actual rates of unwanted pregnancy are very low

There is some stigma around having an abortion (most Katasian's agree that a fetus is still a living human, combined with the rarity of unwanted pregnancies, even those in favor of it are uncomfortable talking about it) but fortunately Katasian's as a whole are very stubborn and don't give a d*** about what others think, so this does little to prevent women in a bad situation from seeking the treatment they need

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Postby Katas » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:22 pm

Also, notice you didn't include incest on the list of exceptions

I guess birth defects could preclude that, but the actual risks of birth defects from a single generation of incest is barely higher than normal (the risks skyrocket starting at the second generation however), so it could be argued as a separate reason
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