Hong Kong

[Eodor]

I guess I must be an authoritarian, supporting the abolition of hierarchy and the state,

Said the Stalinist.

must be massively totalitarian.

You certainly sound like one by supporting CCP.

Wouldn't want to piss off the CCP, a political party on the other side of the world that couldn't hurt me if it tried. You're so brave standing against them, you must be so stressed having to look out for bitcoin assassins or whatever nonsense you've decided the CCP would pull

You can take your words out of my mouth, thanks.

Yeah, said the Marxist-Leninist, the supporter of Communism, which I doubt you know much about but I'll let it slide. You're not brave or just fighting against the CCP, you're just a drop in an ocean of Imperialist hatred for China, if you were to stop arguing it would literally make no difference.

[Loben The 2nd]

so where are you from?

England, if it matters so much to you

I know, right, an Englishman who recognised the evils the country they live in and isn't blindly following whatever the BBC tells them, goodness me

an Englishman who is an irish republican.

ok.

[Grenartia]

Said the Stalinist.



You certainly sound like one by supporting CCP.



You can take your words out of my mouth, thanks.

Yeah, said the Marxist-Leninist, the supporter of Communism, which I doubt you know much about but I'll let it slide. You're not brave or just fighting against the CCP, you're just a drop in an ocean of Imperialist hatred for China, if you were to stop arguing it would literally make no difference.

>Marxism-Leninism
>Communism

Choose one.

Also, not an imperialist, just severely anti-fascist.

[Eodor]

England, if it matters so much to you

I know, right, an Englishman who recognised the evils the country they live in and isn't blindly following whatever the BBC tells them, goodness me

an Englishman who is an irish republican.

ok.

Yeah opinions that aren't blindly following what you're fed are really hard

[Loben The 2nd]

correct.

God, are you gonna fucking El-Amin this?

meaning?

[Loben The 2nd]

an Englishman who is an irish republican.

ok.

Yeah opinions that aren't blindly following what you're fed are really hard

no youre just swallowing the CCP's propaganda hook line and sinker.

[Valentine Z]

Nah, I'm tired as shit and edited my post accordingly.

This isn't just "under Stalin" - this is about my family under the "glorious Union" - from 1945 to 1990.

Did they have many driving lessons in 1933? And we've all seen pictures of the American breadline but very few of the Soviet one. I didn't know that Stalin lived for about 150 years in order to ruin your family in particular, I'll have to consult my Stalinist hive mind about this

Wow, that's incredibly low to attack someone like that instead of addressing it politely. That kind of snark is not going to help anyone, you know?

I feel dirty for having respect towards you, to be honest.

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Also can we please go back to topic, or something? We just took a huge detour.

[Cantonese Union]

Nah, I'm tired as shit and edited my post accordingly.

This isn't just "under Stalin" - this is about my family under the "glorious Union" - from 1945 to 1990.

Did they have many driving lessons in 1933? And we've all seen pictures of the American breadline but very few of the Soviet one. I didn't know that Stalin lived for about 150 years in order to ruin your family in particular, I'll have to consult my Stalinist hive mind about this

First of all: you do know what "1945-1990" means, right?

Second: You want to see a Soviet bread line? Sure thing:
- а literal bread line, decades after the Great Depression.

Did they have many driving lessons in 1933? And we've all seen pictures of the American breadline but very few of the Soviet one. I didn't know that Stalin lived for about 150 years in order to ruin your family in particular, I'll have to consult my Stalinist hive mind about this

Wow, that's incredibly low to attack someone like that instead of addressing it politely. That kind of snark is not going to help anyone, you know?

I feel dirty for having respect towards you, to be honest.

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Also can we please go back to topic, or something? We just took a huge detour.

I don't care if some pampered Westerner, who feels like he knows best, tries to "attack" me.

[Eodor]

Yeah opinions that aren't blindly following what you're fed are really hard

no youre just swallowing the CCP's propaganda hook line and sinker.

Yeah, I must be, having never seen an official CCP affiliated broadcast in my life, also the IRA aren't Chinese last I checked but I may be wrong so don't quote me on that

[Grenartia]

God, are you gonna fucking El-Amin this?

meaning?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=466744&hilit=Islamic+slavery

[Eodor]

Did they have many driving lessons in 1933? And we've all seen pictures of the American breadline but very few of the Soviet one. I didn't know that Stalin lived for about 150 years in order to ruin your family in particular, I'll have to consult my Stalinist hive mind about this

First of all: you do know what "1945-1990" means, right?

Second: You want to see a Soviet bread line? Sure thing:
- а literal bread line, decades after the Great Depression.

Great Depression didn't affect the USSR but fair enough. Now look up Capitalist breadlines, see how many of them are because they'd die otherwise and aren't just waiting to be served like how most country's shops work

[Loben The 2nd]

meaning?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=466744&hilit=Islamic+slavery

irc the constitution does say that slavery can be used as a form of punishment.

holds up far better then Islam.

[Eodor]

Did they have many driving lessons in 1933? And we've all seen pictures of the American breadline but very few of the Soviet one. I didn't know that Stalin lived for about 150 years in order to ruin your family in particular, I'll have to consult my Stalinist hive mind about this

Wow, that's incredibly low to attack someone like that instead of addressing it politely. That kind of snark is not going to help anyone, you know?

I feel dirty for having respect towards you, to be honest.

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Also can we please go back to topic, or something? We just took a huge detour.

If I'm going to be called a shill or whatever buzzword some keyboard warrior has decided on, then I'm going to fight back. No hard feelings though.

[Loben The 2nd]

Wow, that's incredibly low to attack someone like that instead of addressing it politely. That kind of snark is not going to help anyone, you know?

I feel dirty for having respect towards you, to be honest.

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Also can we please go back to topic, or something? We just took a huge detour.

If I'm going to be called a shill or whatever buzzword some keyboard warrior has decided on, then I'm going to fight back. No hard feelings though.

its just odd.

An englishman who supports the IRA, probably has dreams of a glorious (and bloody) revolution against his countrymen and supports the peoples republic of china, proclaiming them to be a savior of the poor and downtrodden and the victims of a world dominated by the west.

[Grenartia]

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=466744&hilit=Islamic+slavery

irc the constitution does say that slavery can be used as a form of punishment.

holds up far better then Islam.

Doesn't make it any less fucked up.

[Plzen]

American nationalists set their moral compass by this arbitrary set of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

That surely makes them so much better than all those other people who set their moral compasses by arbitrary sets of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

Pot, meet kettle.

Americans...

[Kassaran]

Hong Kong? My thoughts? It's a pity, it's a shame, wish it weren't happening, but unfortunately the US has been too focused in Western Asia in recent history to have a means of viably weighing in here. Best bet for Hong Kong? To settle in and wait for the long winter to come because the monolithic power of the CCP isn't going to be stopped because of demonstrations. It's stopped when war breaks out and no one is willing to unleash that can of worms in Asia again.

Best case scenario? China agrees to an extension of Hong Kong culture and society for an additional decade or two during transition, and then just pop-bombs the city until the original denizens are a minority and can be safely carted off. Hong Kong will fall, the Borg will assimilate, resistance is futile. The US won't come to help, no nation of consequence will offer public support, there's not enough momentum behind the Hong Kong protests from outside to even try and create that momentum.

Why? Because we already gave China the keys to the kingdom a long time ago in Asia in return for cheap, unregulated, state-sponsored labor. They're the industrial heartland of about every 'modern' western country in the world and no one can change that quickly enough to help.

[Loben The 2nd]

American nationalists set their moral compass by this arbitrary set of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

That surely makes them so much better than all those other people who set their moral compasses by arbitrary sets of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

Pot, meet kettle.

Americans...

what principles does a citizen of the PRC hold?

[Cantonese Union]

Great Depression didn't affect the USSR but fair enough. Now look up Capitalist breadlines, see how many of them are because they'd die otherwise and aren't just waiting to be served like how most country's shops work

Yeah, I've seen those, and I'd still pick disgusting liberal capitalism any day of the week.

[Grenartia]

American nationalists set their moral compass by this arbitrary set of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

That surely makes them so much better than all those other people who set their moral compasses by arbitrary sets of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

Pot, meet kettle.

Americans...

what principles does a citizen of the PRC hold?

Depends on what Big Brother told them to think today.

[Loben The 2nd]

what principles does a citizen of the PRC hold?

Depends on what Big Brother told them to think today.

probably.

Its incredible how much censorship can happen even in a golden age of technological progress.

by both private corporations and governments, we must stand ready.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

The phrase has wider applications though. Stalinists qualify.

And you're a Nazi, it has wider applications, Conservatives and Liberals qualify

Not even comparable.

Tankie is widely used for any communist who defends Soviet human rights violations. Putting a bunch of ideologies under the label "Nazi" is a different ballgame.

[Plzen]

Not even comparable.

Wait, are you proposing that words ought to actually mean things?

Nooooooo. Surely not. That would be doubleplusungood blackwhite crimethink.

[Kassaran]

American nationalists set their moral compass by this arbitrary set of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

That surely makes them so much better than all those other people who set their moral compasses by arbitrary sets of written principles that were handed down from their ancestors.

Pot, meet kettle.

Americans...

I very much appreciate the liberal principles handed down and developed by my ancestors and cultural heroes. They tend to allow me a bit more freedom than the authoritarian principles of less civilized societies that I quite disagree with.

If being willing to stand up for liberty and Justice for all condemns me to just be an 'American nationalist' in your eyes, then I pity you for the shades of grey you see in a world of vibrant colors and life.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Not even comparable.

Wait, are you proposing that words ought to actually mean things?

Nooooooo. Surely not. That would be doubleplusungood blackwhite crimethink.

I never said they don't mean things, commie.