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by Marilyn Manson Freaks » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:20 pm
by Pierconium » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:27 pm
by Stellar Colonies » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:30 pm
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Feu de Glace » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:31 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:34 pm
by The Pharcyde » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:36 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:2. I think this was the most incompetent display I've ever seen from gameplayers who purportedly know what they're doing, the so-called "elites" who in some cases have been playing this game longer than some players have been alive. I hope this will be a lesson to newer players that often the "elites," myself included, are not all we're cracked up to be, and you can in fact challenge us and make an impact on this game. So do it.
by Guy » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:46 pm
Unibot III wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Can you literally just stop talking, stop undermining TSP's treaty ally while it's being couped, and stop undermining your own government's response?
Why TSP continues to tolerate you in any role beyond resident is beyond me. You are nothing but a liability and headache for them. If you're ever again elected Minister of Foreign Affairs, or anything else for that matter, after this deplorable reaction to a coup in an allied region, that will be appalling.
Occasionally, it is okay to avail yourself of the opportunity to shut the hell up and leave it to the people actually elected to respond.
There's a bit more to it than this. The alliance, as Glen has said, is a multilateral one. TSP was thrown off guard when TRR showed no interest in reviewing the treaty - the TRR FA Minister flipflopped when they realized their delegate, rather than being opposed, was on board with Scardino's radical policies. Kyorgia's TRR embraced the LWU crowd with open arms, rejected attempts to express condemnation at any and all of the obvious canaries in the coal mine, and established an ill-timed Arts Festival. It was at that point that I chastised certain TRR officials in public for not doing what TRR traditionally was expected to do (defend democratic values), and Guy/Kyorgia et. al. claimed I knew "nothing" of the region's foreign policy and its governing philosophy.
[violet] wrote:Never underestimate the ability of admin to do nothing.
by The Miniluv Messenger » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:49 pm
by El Fiji Grande » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:50 pm
by Greater Saint-Paul » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:03 pm
by Stellar Colonies » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:06 pm
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Queen Yuno » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:11 pm
by Verdrassil » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:18 pm
by Frattastan IV » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm
Guy wrote:Unibot III wrote:
There's a bit more to it than this. The alliance, as Glen has said, is a multilateral one. TSP was thrown off guard when TRR showed no interest in reviewing the treaty - the TRR FA Minister flipflopped when they realized their delegate, rather than being opposed, was on board with Scardino's radical policies. Kyorgia's TRR embraced the LWU crowd with open arms, rejected attempts to express condemnation at any and all of the obvious canaries in the coal mine, and established an ill-timed Arts Festival. It was at that point that I chastised certain TRR officials in public for not doing what TRR traditionally was expected to do (defend democratic values), and Guy/Kyorgia et. al. claimed I knew "nothing" of the region's foreign policy and its governing philosophy.
None of this is true whatsoever, and every single claim outright false, aside from the fact that the arts festival was mistimed.
One is always placed in a difficult situation when confidential discussions are misrepresented, because you cannot refute them. Without going into TSP's position, TRR's position was always that native ejections were a negative step for TEP, and we had been at high alert for the possibility of a coup since June. Since RO powers were removed from Viziers 10 days ago, TRR has been in constant contact with them, taking joint proactive steps.
I'm sorry if you don't like the way that TRR's administration went about addressing Fedele's delegacy. We got results done. Our early representations resulted in native ejections almost completely stopping. And, importantly, we have worked hard to ensure that any coup is defeated. I'll take this over your libelous gossip.
Unibot III wrote:TSP would have likely have taken a stiffer response earlier if TRR had been willing to back it up in tandem.
Draganisia wrote:Also it seems the next war could be NPO fighting directly against Pacifica.
by Great Algerstonia » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:56 am
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Aleister » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:37 am
USS Monitor: Racism is not against site rules.
by Buranda » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:54 am
Queen Yuno wrote:Ahahaha that meme is hilarious
@AMOM
Anyway, I'm so glad people realized the ban is stupid ^_^
That makes me happy
Again, I hold 0 grudges, the admin who banned me has apologized to me for his mistake, it's whatever
by Unibot III » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:20 am
Frattastan IV wrote:Guy wrote:None of this is true whatsoever, and every single claim outright false, aside from the fact that the arts festival was mistimed.
One is always placed in a difficult situation when confidential discussions are misrepresented, because you cannot refute them. Without going into TSP's position, TRR's position was always that native ejections were a negative step for TEP, and we had been at high alert for the possibility of a coup since June. Since RO powers were removed from Viziers 10 days ago, TRR has been in constant contact with them, taking joint proactive steps.
I'm sorry if you don't like the way that TRR's administration went about addressing Fedele's delegacy. We got results done. Our early representations resulted in native ejections almost completely stopping. And, importantly, we have worked hard to ensure that any coup is defeated. I'll take this over your libelous gossip.
What Guy said. You are completely misinformed: there was no disagreement between the delegate and the FA officer. Kyorgia was concerned about Fedele and didn't see him as anything other than a threat to democracy in TEP for as long as the matter was discussed.Unibot III wrote:TSP would have likely have taken a stiffer response earlier if TRR had been willing to back it up in tandem.
So you would've rather seen the dissolution of the alliance with TEP and us taking the stance that there was little to 'salvage' - a terrible attitude which wouldn't have helped TEP at all.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:31 am
Unibot III wrote:Frattastan IV wrote:
What Guy said. You are completely misinformed: there was no disagreement between the delegate and the FA officer. Kyorgia was concerned about Fedele and didn't see him as anything other than a threat to democracy in TEP for as long as the matter was discussed.
So you would've rather seen the dissolution of the alliance with TEP and us taking the stance that there was little to 'salvage' - a terrible attitude which wouldn't have helped TEP at all.
These are lies - boldfaced lies. It was made clear to TSP that TRR's Delegate didn't favour intervention with TEP case - they threw their hands up in the air in frustration with TRR. Kyorgia then launched in a public tirade about how his government differed from past TRR governments and would not intervene in TEP to make "flashy" scene. Now TSP is being called upon to explain why it didn't take a strong stance when their ally, TRR, was privately and publicly refusing to intervene, but now claims retroactively to have been intervening regardless and holding a dim view of a government it was enthusiastically embracing and entertaining.
by Frattastan IV » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:08 am
Unibot III wrote:These are lies - boldfaced lies. It was made clear to TSP that TRR's Delegate didn't favour intervention with TEP case - they threw their hands up in the air in frustration with TRR. Kyorgia then launched in a public tirade about how his government differed from past TRR governments and would not intervene in TEP to make "flashy" scene. Now TSP is being called upon to explain why it didn't take a strong stance when their ally, TRR, was privately and publicly refusing to intervene, but now claims retroactively to have been intervening regardless and holding a dim view of a government it was enthusiastically embracing and entertaining.
Draganisia wrote:Also it seems the next war could be NPO fighting directly against Pacifica.
by Jazksrkeal » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:14 am
Not entirely unprecedent that someone in either government told him, so no need to say more.The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I'm sure we'd all be interested to know how someone banned from both TSP and TRR knows so much about what I assume are private discussions between two governments. Care to enlighten the class as to how you came about this information?
by Frattastan IV » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:26 am
Unibot III wrote:Now TSP is being called upon to explain why it didn't take a strong stance
Draganisia wrote:Also it seems the next war could be NPO fighting directly against Pacifica.
by Numero Capitan » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:15 pm
by The Pharcyde » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:58 pm
Unibot III wrote:Now TSP is being called upon to explain why it didn't take a strong stance
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