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Synagogue getting shot up in Germany

Postby Bolivarian Amerikwa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:55 am

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/statu ... 0934724609
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/ha ... e-100.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482

Fresh off the presses boys
Dunno much about it
This is bad, please stop shooting up religious buildings thanks
Should Germany's gun laws have prevented this? Who do you think it was? Discuss
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:00 am

Huh. Original flavor Nazism? I thought that was discontinued.
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Postby Bolivarian Amerikwa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:02 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:Huh. Original flavor Nazism? I thought that was discontinued.

Radical Muslims don't like Jews either
could be anyone really, if it was an attack somewhere else we could probably hazard a better guess but literally everyone has beef with the Jews
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:03 am

Bolivarian Amerikwa wrote:https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181896790934724609

Fresh off the presses boys
Dunno much about it
This is bad, please stop shooting up religious buildings thanks
Should Germany's gun laws have prevented this? Who do you think it was? Discuss

German Gun laws probably couldn't have prevented this. Of course, i'm sure german authorities already know how to stop this. There won't be Nazis 2.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:03 am

From non-shitty sources:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/ha ... e-100.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482
https://www.euronews.com/2019/10/09/two ... t-shooting

"A witness told German n-tv news that a gunman in camouflage opened fire with an assault rifle on a Turkish kebab shop."
I think there's a bit of a difference between "shooting up a synagogue" and "opening fire on a kebab shop that's near a synagogue".

Also, OP, what's YOUR opinion?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:03 am

The fact a synagogue is getting shot up in of all places Germany ain't a good look.

I'm not gonna send thoughts and prayers because that isn't what'll fix these kinds of societal issues. Something is clearly wrong in our society when houses of worship, schools and shopping malls are the targets of armed gunmen. It's a sad day in Deutschland.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:05 am

Risottia wrote:From non-shitty sources:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/ha ... e-100.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482

"A witness told German n-tv news that a gunman in camouflage opened fire with an assault rifle on a Turkish kebab shop."
I think there's a bit of a difference between "shooting up a synagogue" and "opening fire on a kebab shop that's near a synagogue".

Also, OP, what's YOUR opinion?

Hmm. That changes things.
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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:05 am

Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim. As of recent a lot more immigration from the middle east has led to more Muslims in non Muslim countries which of course includes Germany. Now If you've been paying attention to Israel and the surrounding countries you should know more radical Muslims kind of despise Jews.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:06 am

Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim. As of recent a lot more immigration from the middle east has led to more Muslims in non Muslim countries which of course includes Germany. Now If you've been paying attention to Israel and the surrounding countries you should know more radical Muslims kind of despise Jews.

Yeah, but I don't follow. What effect does this have on Jews?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:06 am

Risottia wrote:From non-shitty sources:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/ha ... e-100.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482

"A witness told German n-tv news that a gunman in camouflage opened fire with an assault rifle on a Turkish kebab shop."
I think there's a bit of a difference between "shooting up a synagogue" and "opening fire on a kebab shop that's near a synagogue".

Also, OP, what's YOUR opinion?


Considering that he (or an associated assailant) fired on a kebab shop as well, I'm gonna bet this is some Nazi shit. Can't imagine an Islamic extremists attacking a kebab shop unless he stopped by the day before and the kebabs were absolute ass grade. This is messed up regardless of who did it
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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:07 am

Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim.

Yes, Muslims are notorious for firing shots at Döner Kebab shops in Germany.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:07 am

Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim. As of recent a lot more immigration from the middle east has led to more Muslims in non Muslim countries which of course includes Germany. Now If you've been paying attention to Israel and the surrounding countries you should know more radical Muslims kind of despise Jews.


As I stated a few seconds ago based on the BBC, a Turkish cafe was also attacked. I don't know who is doing this but my belief that it's Islamic based greatly decreased when I read that. I too originally thought it was a jihadist but now I'm not so sure
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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:08 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Yeah, but I don't follow. What effect does this have on Jews?


Well the more people within a Jewish area that hate Jews, the more likely someone who hates said Jews is going to target them.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:09 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:German Gun laws probably couldn't have prevented this. Of course, i'm sure german authorities already know how to stop this. There won't be Nazis 2.


Well... AfD.
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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:10 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim. As of recent a lot more immigration from the middle east has led to more Muslims in non Muslim countries which of course includes Germany. Now If you've been paying attention to Israel and the surrounding countries you should know more radical Muslims kind of despise Jews.


As I stated a few seconds ago based on the BBC, a Turkish cafe was also attacked. I don't know who is doing this but my belief that it's Islamic based greatly decreased when I read that. I too originally thought it was a jihadist but now I'm not so sure


I was just going off of info from OP, so yeah now it's kinda just thrown up there, but even then Jihadists in the Middle east attack fellow Muslims so it's not like it's entirely impossible.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:10 am

Risottia wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:German Gun laws probably couldn't have prevented this. Of course, i'm sure german authorities already know how to stop this. There won't be Nazis 2.


Well... AfD.

Well shit. Hopefully things don't get worse.
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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:10 am

Risottia wrote:
Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim.

Yes, Muslims are notorious for firing shots at Döner Kebab shops in Germany.
:roll:

Look at my above post.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:11 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Bolivarian Amerikwa wrote:https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181896790934724609

Fresh off the presses boys
Dunno much about it
This is bad, please stop shooting up religious buildings thanks
Should Germany's gun laws have prevented this? Who do you think it was? Discuss

German Gun laws probably couldn't have prevented this. Of course, i'm sure german authorities already know how to stop this. There won't be Nazis 2.


They said that world war I was the war to end all wars. Then world war II happened.

don't rule out the fourth reich
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Postby Bolivarian Amerikwa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:11 am

Risottia wrote:Also, OP, what's YOUR opinion?

It's bad, killing people is bad and you shouldn't do it. I once lent a Jewish mate of mine fifty dollars, later he told me that there was no way he could repay me the forty dollars, he didn't have the thirty dollars I gave him on his person and that the most he could give me was twenty, but you don't see me shooting up a synagogue. Reasonable people do not commit terrorist attacks and we should aspire to be reasonable people.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:13 am

Satuga wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
As I stated a few seconds ago based on the BBC, a Turkish cafe was also attacked. I don't know who is doing this but my belief that it's Islamic based greatly decreased when I read that. I too originally thought it was a jihadist but now I'm not so sure


I was just going off of info from OP, so yeah now it's kinda just thrown up there, but even then Jihadists in the Middle east attack fellow Muslims so it's not like it's entirely impossible.


True but why a kebab shop? Of all places a radical Muslim could attack, it's so out of the way. The only person who would target a random cafe is either insane or would have something against said restaurant, and considering all that bullshit Brenton tarrant was on a few months ago about driving "Islamic occupiers" from europe, I have a feeling someone decided today to actually do it.

That, or the restaurant messed up their order and they hit it on the way to the terrorist attack
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:16 am

Honestly, ladies and gents. It costs nothing to wait for some sort of evidence on motive, but it costs your credibility if you jump wildly to completely the wrong conclusion out of a desire to pin it on your political boogeyman.

It's never the smart play.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:16 am

I think it smacks of Nazism. It's rife in its parent nation.

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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:16 am

Rojava Free State wrote:-snip-

Well if you are planning to do something like this in the first place, you probably aren't the most complete in the head. So trying to think what someone like this is thinking is pretty much impossible for a normal person.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:17 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Honestly, ladies and gents. It costs nothing to wait for some sort of evidence on motive, but it costs your credibility if you jump wildly to completely the wrong conclusion out of a desire to pin it on your political boogeyman.

It's never the smart play.


Pfff. Like I've got credibility.
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Postby Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:18 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Honestly, ladies and gents. It costs nothing to wait for some sort of evidence on motive, but it costs your credibility if you jump wildly to completely the wrong conclusion out of a desire to pin it on your political boogeyman.

It's never the smart play.


Well if you are simply trying to figure the culprit before information is given then it's whatever, but if you're like "ITS THE MUSSIES WE NEED TO BAN ALL MUSSIES" then yeah I agree.
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