by Rojava Free State » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:58 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Free Arabian Nation » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by New haven america » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by Daarwyrth » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by Aureumterra » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:07 pm
by New haven america » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:07 pm
Free Arabian Nation wrote:OP, stop reading scary stories
There are no monsters under the bed, just like there are no Eldritch Abominations in this universe
On that note, I am gonna bet 40 Rial that there will be some guy posting Zalgo text within 5 pages (despite it being illegal, ya doof)
by Aureumterra » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:08 pm
New haven america wrote:To ants, humans are eldritch abominations.
But nah, considering most people in the developed world want to die already, I'm pretty sure the general reaction would range from "Meh, I hope this doesn't mess up my work schedule" to "Oh thank fuck, finally!"
by Free Arabian Nation » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:10 pm
New haven america wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:OP, stop reading scary stories
There are no monsters under the bed, just like there are no Eldritch Abominations in this universe
On that note, I am gonna bet 40 Rial that there will be some guy posting Zalgo text within 5 pages (despite it being illegal, ya doof)
How do you know there are no eldritch abominations in the universe?
Also, they don't have to be from this universe to affect it.
by Bloodshade » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:11 pm
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by Daarwyrth » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:11 pm
Bloodshade wrote:Have you been playing too much Stellaris?
by Gormwood » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:12 pm
by Nakena » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:13 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:As a pretty ardent atheist, I don't really concern myself with religious dogma or beliefs. I tend to view the major monotheistic religions of the world as tyrannical and oppressive and think the morality of their God is deeply flawed and horrific. I have more of a soft spot for eastern religions such as buddhism, but overall it's pretty clear I'm no fan of religion. While I and my closest friend all but discount the existence of the biblical God, one thing we have debated time and time again is the possibility of there being a god-like entity out there somewhere in the universe. However, this being would likely be nothing like our conception of "god," in the sense of wouldn't be omnipresent or the creator of reality itself, but compared to puny mankind, it would be of a divine nature. It's power could destroy an entire world in seconds. It's very presence could drive a person insane. Behold, the concept of the eldtritch abomination, developed by cosmic horror writers such as Hp Lovecraft.
The question is, could such a being exist? Might there be a creature out there in the universe that is so utterly powerful and downright horrifying, it might bring about the apocalypse simply due to its discovery alone? How would your life change upon realizing that such an all powerful creature was out there? Do you ever even for a moment worry about such a thing happening? I don't worry myself all that much over it, but I don't discount that a powerful life form could exist out there in space and that if we discovered it,or it discovered us, it could bring about the end of our society. Let me know your thoughts below.
by Kowani » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:15 pm
Aureumterra wrote:This feels like the premise for a Vsauce episode
In any case, you cant rule it out without proof to rule it out, same applies to God
by Aureumterra » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:16 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:As a pretty ardent atheist, I don't really concern myself with religious dogma or beliefs. I tend to view the major monotheistic religions of the world as tyrannical and oppressive and think the morality of their God is deeply flawed and horrific. I have more of a soft spot for eastern religions such as buddhism, but overall it's pretty clear I'm no fan of religion. While I and my closest friend all but discount the existence of the biblical God, one thing we have debated time and time again is the possibility of there being a god-like entity out there somewhere in the universe. However, this being would likely be nothing like our conception of "god," in the sense of wouldn't be omnipresent or the creator of reality itself, but compared to puny mankind, it would be of a divine nature. It's power could destroy an entire world in seconds. It's very presence could drive a person insane. Behold, the concept of the eldtritch abomination, developed by cosmic horror writers such as Hp Lovecraft.
The question is, could such a being exist? Might there be a creature out there in the universe that is so utterly powerful and downright horrifying, it might bring about the apocalypse simply due to its discovery alone? How would your life change upon realizing that such an all powerful creature was out there? Do you ever even for a moment worry about such a thing happening? I don't worry myself all that much over it, but I don't discount that a powerful life form could exist out there in space and that if we discovered it,or it discovered us, it could bring about the end of our society. Let me know your thoughts below.
by Daarwyrth » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:17 pm
by Probablynotverygoodistan » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:19 pm
by Daarwyrth » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:20 pm
by Kowani » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:22 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:Kowani wrote:That’s not how proof works.
Actually, it does work like that. Don't get me wrong, I strongly lean towards agnostic atheism myself, but if you have no proof that something exists but also no proof that it doesn't, then how you can rule it out? Just because the light of a star doesn't reach our planet and we don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We simply may not have the right means to perceive it or gather the proof to prove its existence.
by Kasa Tkoth Sphere » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:23 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:Kowani wrote:That’s not how proof works.
Actually, it does work like that. Don't get me wrong, I strongly lean towards agnostic atheism myself, but if you have no proof that something exists but also no proof that it doesn't, then how you can rule it out? Just because the light of a star doesn't reach our planet and we don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We simply may not have the right means to perceive it or gather the proof to prove its existence.
by Kowani » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:25 pm
by Daarwyrth » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:25 pm
Kowani wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:
Actually, it does work like that. Don't get me wrong, I strongly lean towards agnostic atheism myself, but if you have no proof that something exists but also no proof that it doesn't, then how you can rule it out? Just because the light of a star doesn't reach our planet and we don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We simply may not have the right means to perceive it or gather the proof to prove its existence.
So, there’s two points of formal logic. The first, is that the burden of prof is on the positive claim, negatives being unprovable. The second, is that in the lack of proof, you default to the negative. It’s why we don’t believe in unicorns.
by Nakena » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:27 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:Kowani wrote:So, there’s two points of formal logic. The first, is that the burden of prof is on the positive claim, negatives being unprovable. The second, is that in the lack of proof, you default to the negative. It’s why we don’t believe in unicorns.
Speak for yourself my friend. I happen to fervently believe in Unicorns
All jokes aside, it's best to keep an open mind. Even if something seems unlikely to exist, remain open to the possibility that you may be wrong. Rules of formal logic are all nice and good, but let's not have rules of this or that dictate our lives all the time. Besides, even the rules of formal logic can we wrong. After all, they were thought up by a human and human, like all other living being, are flawed.
by The Grims » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:27 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:What does fascinate me about subjects like these is that humans always think up of such things as something terrible , bad and evil. It begs the question whether it reveals more about us than any other lifeform.
If there were such a creature out there, I'd prefer to think of it as something good, or at least, not an abomination. I'd prefer to see it as a creature whose knowledge and curiosity are never sated, who studies planets from afar but never interferes or destroys. I'd prefer to see it as something that has seen so much empty space in the universe that it values life beyond anything and would never seek to destroy it or harm it. But study its enigma instead.
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