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Thoughts on rebooting?

1: Yes, reboot
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2: A reboot is ok, but not now
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3: Don't reboot
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Total votes : 25

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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:27 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
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You can’t be all of africa, ignoring the massive linguistic cultural and tribal differences that cause genocide to this day. Let me put it this way, the more focused your insurgency is the more powerful you are, I’ll let you be all over Africa but your influence in any one region is going to be weak. Do you want to be spread thin but be everywhere? Or concentrated in one area?

I'm not all of Africa as a government, but as an insurgency. The main government is focused in South Africa and Belgian Congo, and so is insurgency. We just claim all of Africa, even though the actual troops are focused in the former two regions and Angola.



Okay that’s fine, though I will say the further you gonthe more internal issues you will have
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:56 am

Whats my first diplomatic move as Britain?

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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:05 pm

Hypron wrote:Whats my first diplomatic move as Britain?


Ally with Brazil cause I is the best.
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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:07 pm

I would also be able to help you in Africa if you want as well
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:24 pm

Greater Liverpool wrote:I would also be able to help you in Africa if you want as well


Another Western collaborator...of course. I hope the PCB put your head on a plate, Western-loving prostitute!
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Pannerstone
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Postby Pannerstone » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:22 pm

hmmm i'm thinking German resistance group or Islamic radical turkey

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:25 pm

Pannerstone wrote:hmmm i'm thinking German resistance group or Islamic radical turkey


Who would you resist?

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Postby Pannerstone » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:26 pm

Hypron wrote:
Pannerstone wrote:hmmm i'm thinking German resistance group or Islamic radical turkey


Who would you resist?


East Germany

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:31 pm

Pannerstone wrote:
Hypron wrote:
Who would you resist?


East Germany

East Germany? Odd choice but alright.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:38 pm

France that's not how things work in RPs...
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:46 pm

Goddamnit France.

I thought we'd have a more left-wing world than IRL, but it's actually swinging to the opposite now.
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:49 pm

I feel NATO's power growing.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:52 pm

The Social Democrat government will probably fracture and collapse quickly tbh. Conservatives and Liberals probably voted for it, and they're not going to be too happy about social democracy.
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:54 pm

in that case, time to prepare for a French revolution intervention (like i did in Greece)

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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:56 pm

Hypron wrote:I feel NATO's power growing.


Did someone say "NATO SAMBA"
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:57 pm

Greater Liverpool wrote:
Hypron wrote:I feel NATO's power growing.


Did someone say "NATO SAMBA"


I'm just gonna go with it and leave it be.

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Speyland
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Postby Speyland » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:59 pm

Is Italy free?

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:00 pm

Speyland wrote:Is Italy free?

yup

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Speyland
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Postby Speyland » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:00 pm

Hypron wrote:
Speyland wrote:Is Italy free?

yup

Alright, thank you.

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Speyland
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Postby Speyland » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:05 pm

What about Indonesia?

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:07 pm

Speyland wrote:What about Indonesia?


think so.

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The Felan Federation
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Postby The Felan Federation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:37 pm

Asardia - what is USSR doing currently?

Or what other plans do they have for Asia?

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Speyland
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Postby Speyland » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:37 pm

Country Name: Republic of Indonesia
Head of State/Government: Unitary presidential constitutional republic
Type of Government: President Sukarno
Capital: Jakarta
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Population: 60,727,233
Faction: Neutral
History: It has been a valuable region for trade since at least the 7th century when Srivijaya and then later Majapahit traded with entities from mainland China and the Indian subcontinent. Local rulers gradually absorbed foreign influences from the early centuries and Hindu and Buddhist kingdoms flourished. Muslim traders and Sufi scholars brought Islam, while European powers brought Christianity and fought one another to monopolise trade in the Spice Islands of Maluku during the Age of Discovery. Although sometimes interrupted by the Portuguese, French and British, the Dutch were the foremost European power for much of their 350-year presence in the archipelago. In the early 20th century, the concept of "Indonesia" as a nation-state emerged, and independence movements began to take shape. During the decolonisation of Asia after World War II, Indonesia achieved independence in 1949 following an armed and diplomatic conflict with the Netherlands.

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Asardia
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Postby Asardia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:52 pm

Hypron wrote:Whats my first diplomatic move as Britain?


Well Spain just gave you something to do with Gibraltar. You also have the Malyan Emergency, and you still occupy Libya due to Italy in WW2, which became independent in 1951. Not sure of anything else though, besides Norddeutschland.

And speaking of which, I made a temporary map. I'm not sure of Norddeutschland's territory, and I know France had Wallonie and East Switzerland, which will be added once everything is sorted out. I'm unsure of the exact borders for China as well.

https://i.imgur.com/pmEvIgz.png

I also want to gauge interest on the idea of an Events System, where countries would have situations they have to deal with. For example, the UK could have issues in Malayasia or Africa, or Japan has protests over something. Your responses to the events can cause more events to occur, or it can end there.
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:00 pm

Dentali wrote:
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Taiwan and mainland China are two completely different eggs to fry. China is still massively destroyed from its war with Japan you are in way going to be able to fix your economy, make growth, introduce social reforms in the largest population in the world, and purse a Nuclear program in just 4 years of ending the war more closer to 3.


1. My app detailed the economic and land reforms and was accepted, along with the economic growth numbers so this conversation is mute anyhow
2. I do plan on having nukes anytime soon, maybe by 1960 at the earliest
3. When it comes to economic horseshit I am by no means the worst offender, considering my economic growth numbers are lower than IRL china of this period
4. This is a country clearly hungry for social reforms considering half of it is communist, these are literally the same land and social reforms undertaken in IRL Korea, Taiwan and Japan and supported by both communist and democratic factions in China
5. As with IRL China received outside USAID at this time which is in track with US policy and specified with my app
6. these are the same economic reforms that led to the Korean economic miracle, the japanese economic miracle, the west german economic miracle, the Taiwanese economic miracle, Trente Glorieuses, the Chilean Economic Miracle... I could go on.
7. At no point have I said China has gotten crazy powerful (unlike Brazil), just that it is growing and making economic progress
8. the IRL Chinese nuclear program started development around this time
9. I don't know when you think WW2 ended but clearly this meeting occurred in January of 1950 as I have indicated in my post
10. Japan had 2 atomic bombs dropped on it and was bombed into submission by the Americans, by 1960 it was the second largest economy in the world (USSR excluded)

Sources
MITI and the Japanese Miracle: The Growth of Industrial Policy, 1925-1975.
French Welfare State Reform: Idealism versus Swedish, New Zealand and Dutch Pragmatism
Industrial Revolution in Mexico.
The Sorrows of Belgium: Liberation and Political Reconstruction, 1944-1947
Booms and Busts: An Encyclopedia of Economic History from the First Stock Market Crash of 1792 to the Current Global Economic Crisis
The Marshall Plan Lessons Learned for the 21st Century: Lessons Learned for the 21st Century
Mass culture and Italian society from fascism to the Cold War.
Before China's Transformation, There Was The "Spanish Miracle
South Korea: Dissent Within the Economic Miracle.
Korea's Place in the Sun: a Modern History.
Taiwanese Economy After the Miracle: An Industry in Restructuration, StructuralWeaknesses and the Challenge of China
The East Asian Miracle Economic Growth and Public Policy
Brazil's Economic 'Miracle' and Its Collapse
Chile's Way to the Social Market
Deng Undone: The Costs of Halting Market Reform in China


You should actually read your sources. Japan, Korea, Germany, Taiwan and those countries affected by WW2, are only such economical powers because of America. And in this, you do not have America supporting Taiwan, China, or Japan. So you can't have it both ways.
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