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Las Palmeras
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Agree or Disagree II

Postby Las Palmeras » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:42 pm

The continuation of this thread, in the words of the now defunct OP:
Grenver wrote:How it works:
I agree to the non existent nation above me
Do you like Jake Paul

Ew no.
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Now that you understand the dynamics...


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Likar
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Postby Likar » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:43 pm

Agree.

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The African Emirates
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Postby The African Emirates » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:57 pm

Disagree. Las Palmeras was.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:18 pm

Disagree




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New Transeurasia
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Postby New Transeurasia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:53 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:Disagree




Soleos should go to NSG for 5 seconds just to have his hopes and dreams crushed ideas tested by some of the most brutal people on the internet outside 4chan

Idk, sure i guess?

Polytheism is a good idea
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Pacomia
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:55 pm

All theism is a bad idea. Disagree.

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Soleos
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Postby Soleos » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Kinda agree. France, Germany, Italy, and Britain are overrated. Finland, Poland, Portugal, and Croatia have so much beauty people have yet to witness.

The fact that there are grown men being so triggered over a 16 year old is pretty much a good case why free speech and democracy should be regulated the same way we regulate capitalism to prevent everything falling into the fire
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Postby Strahcoin » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:19 pm

Soleos wrote:The fact that there are grown men being so triggered over a 16 year old is pretty much a good case why free speech and democracy should be regulated the same way we regulate capitalism to prevent everything falling into the fire

Disagreed. Giving the power to regulate speech to the government is dangerous, because one may never know who will come to power next or what he/she will restrict. No, the First Amendment must not be infringed.

The individual AN was referencing had the right to announce her belief in climate change, just as the "grown men" have the right to call her out on it.
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Las Palmeras
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Postby Las Palmeras » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:24 pm

Partially agree. They very much have the right and ability to "call her out on it", but that'd imply she's wrong. Corporate shilling goes a long way in the USA's media circus apparently.


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Postby Imbalistan » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:28 pm

Disagree.

Kebab's are better then Gyro's.
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Postby Zandovia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:30 pm

Imbalistan wrote:Disagree.

Kebab's are better then Gyro's.

Disagree



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Maple Sryup
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Postby Maple Sryup » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:33 pm

Zandovia wrote:
Imbalistan wrote:Disagree.

Kebab's are better then Gyro's.

Disagree



Pineapple pizza is good

Haven't tried it, but it sounds ew so Imma disagree


Capitalism is more flawed than communism(ya we getting political)

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Postby New Transeurasia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:39 pm

Disagree. Capitalism may have many little flaws, like poors and the ultra rich; but Commuism has a larger flaw: under true communism, a stateless society where the economy is run by the people, people will still have greed, and will want to be above others. This can lead to many things, including crime and violence. And since there is no state to keep order, it ultimately descends into disorganized madness.

Polytheism > monotheism
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Soleos
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Postby Soleos » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:52 pm

Disagree. No matter how many God(s) you have, it all boils down to the core ideas that determine whether or not your religion should be mocked or respected.

In response to Strahcoin: If people don't want free speech regulated for the sake of ensuring we don't have a "fire in a crowded theater" scenario, then Anglo/Latino cultures need to overhaul their current anti-academic attitudes because 21st century geopolitics is interconnected and even a single anti-academic country will bring harm to billions of people outside their border. The lives of billions are worth more than the opinion of a few thousand anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers. Liberty and Democracy can only sustain itself so long as the average citizen is well educated and taking a look at Brazil, Mexico, Canada, and the US, it doesn't look so good.
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Las Palmeras
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Postby Las Palmeras » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:54 pm

Disagree. Ever heard of fission and fusion in Mesoamerica? Or gods with different aspects? Y'know, like Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli also being Xolotl and in some versions also Itztlacoliuhqui-Ixquimilli while being associated with Quetzalcóatl? No thanks! Even Christian trinitarianism is a less traumatizing thing.

AN: I agree. Selective skepticism is negligently dangerous.


Greek gods are associated with white marble statues. I guess.
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Postby Narland » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:02 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:Disagree. Ever heard of fission and fusion in Mesoamerica? Or gods with different aspects? Y'know, like Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli also being Xolotl and in some versions also Itztlacoliuhqui-Ixquimilli while being associated with Quetzalcóatl? No thanks! Even Christian trinitarianism is a less traumatizing thing.

AN: I agree. Selective skepticism is negligently dangerous.


Greek gods are associated with white marble statues. I guess.

Agree.

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The Peoples Mandate
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Postby The Peoples Mandate » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:05 pm

Agree. There's no need to re-invent the wheel, as it were.

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UIS Leviathan
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Postby UIS Leviathan » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:30 pm

Yeah, uh, I guess?


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Bienenhalde
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:35 pm

Disagree

Among polytheist religions, Hellenic paganism and Shinto have the best aesthetics.
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Postby New Transeurasia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:42 pm

Agree, though Anglo-Saxon paganism and Slavic paganism are also good.

Pepsi is better than Coca Cola
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NStats are a secret plot by the government to make Bepis smell like Coca-Cola.
[ ✝ [ [ ] ] ]
(•_•(•_•(•_•)•_•)•_•)
EURASIAWAVE
Russia/Soviet Union but democratic after a second russian civil war in 1928-1930. And also massive, Postcyberpunk, big 1980s-1990s-2000s aesthetics, and extremely capitalist.
OOC i dont go by any specific pronouns, they/she/he

NTGN/New Transeurasian State News: Premier Ivanov plans to shut down the last 2 oil power stations in NT by the end of 2033 ╫ ELN/Eurasian Newsfeed: UAE National Railway and NTŽD enter agreement to construct high speed route between Dubai and Riyadh ╫ NovostiNacional: Moldova Province formally abolishes provincial income tax

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Imperial Palestinain State
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Ex-Nation

Postby Imperial Palestinain State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:45 pm

Agree

Israel belongs to palestine

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Strahcoin
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Postby Strahcoin » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:54 pm

Soleos wrote:In response to Strahcoin: If people don't want free speech regulated for the sake of ensuring we don't have a "fire in a crowded theater" scenario, then Anglo/Latino cultures need to overhaul their current anti-academic attitudes because 21st century geopolitics is interconnected and even a single anti-academic country will bring harm to billions of people outside their border. The lives of billions are worth more than the opinion of a few thousand anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers. Liberty and Democracy can only sustain itself so long as the average citizen is well educated and taking a look at Brazil, Mexico, Canada, and the US, it doesn't look so good.

Technically, you are allowed to shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater - if there is a fire in the crowded theater. The reason it's illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater without fire is because it directly, deliberately, and unreasonably brings physical harm to others. And the people can only be educated if they were allowed to freely speak and exchange ideas without fear of punishment.

Imperial Palestinain State wrote:Israel belongs to palestine

Disagreed; Israel belongs to Israel.

It is better to have an uneducated state with free speech than an educated state without.
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OOC: I support (not necessarily in order) conservatism, capitalism, patriotism, freedom of speech, right to bear arms, pro-life, low taxes, strong national defense, assimilation, legal immigration, science, death penalty for the worst crimes, anti-communism, anti-fascism, anti-socialism. There are only two genders. Nation mostly represents my views.
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Pacomia
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:42 pm

Depends on your definition of “educated”, and how far the suppression of free speech goes. Something like, say, the U.S., is ideal- generally well-educated, and there’s free speech.

The U.S. wouldn’t work without federalism
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Postby Satuga » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:10 am

Pacomia wrote:Depends on your definition of “educated”, and how far the suppression of free speech goes. Something like, say, the U.S., is ideal- generally well-educated, and there’s free speech.

The U.S. wouldn’t work without federalism


Agreed it's a rather delicate system of checks and balances.

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Postby Athelland » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:38 am

Agreed.
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