by Iwassoclose » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:49 am
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by Crysuko » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:35 pm
by Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:51 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:54 pm
Crysuko wrote:https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-05-01/police-perpetrators-domestic-violence
There's a disturbing correllation between police and domestic abuse, would anyone care to explain?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Saiwania » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:43 pm
by Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:44 pm
Saiwania wrote:It isn't only all about these poor civilians that're screwed over by police personel that're closet or open authoritarians. What about the fact that it is a thankless job that is burdensome to qualify for in a lot of cases, such as needing a criminal justice degree? When plenty of people can probably do well enough in that role through an apprenticeship model? Or the fact that if you aren't sufficiently corrupt or turn a blind eye to certain things, that you're penalized for that within a lot of police departments?
This Baltimore cop from what I remember, was fired for not shooting someone as a first resort. It was perhaps a risk where he could've been gunned down, but he still decided to take that risk and it paid off in a non-violent arrest or deescalation occuring as opposed to a violent incident. That is, it paid off up until higher ups decided- "no, he endangered all of us in not shooting that civilian, lets get rid of him."
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Crysuko » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:46 pm
Saiwania wrote:It isn't only all about these poor civilians that're screwed over by police personel that're closet or open authoritarians. What about the fact that it is a thankless job that is burdensome to qualify for in a lot of cases, such as needing an expensive criminal justice degree? When plenty of people can probably do well enough in that role through an apprenticeship model? Or the fact that if you aren't sufficiently corrupt or turn a blind eye to certain things, that you're penalized for that within a lot of police departments?
This Baltimore cop from what I remember, was fired for not shooting someone as a first resort. It was perhaps a risk where he could've been gunned down, but he still decided to take that risk and it paid off in a non-violent arrest or deescalation occuring as opposed to a violent incident. That is, it paid off up until higher ups decided- "no, he endangered all of us in not shooting that civilian, lets get rid of him."
by Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:49 pm
Crysuko wrote:Saiwania wrote:It isn't only all about these poor civilians that're screwed over by police personel that're closet or open authoritarians. What about the fact that it is a thankless job that is burdensome to qualify for in a lot of cases, such as needing an expensive criminal justice degree? When plenty of people can probably do well enough in that role through an apprenticeship model? Or the fact that if you aren't sufficiently corrupt or turn a blind eye to certain things, that you're penalized for that within a lot of police departments?
This Baltimore cop from what I remember, was fired for not shooting someone as a first resort. It was perhaps a risk where he could've been gunned down, but he still decided to take that risk and it paid off in a non-violent arrest or deescalation occuring as opposed to a violent incident. That is, it paid off up until higher ups decided- "no, he endangered all of us in not shooting that civilian, lets get rid of him."
oh woe is me, i'm relied upon to uphold the law and not make an ass of myself. Truly the burden is too much.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Crysuko » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:04 pm
by Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:06 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Petrolheadia » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:53 am
Rojava Free State wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops in a department.there's thugs who abuse the rights of civilians and the cowards who look the other way.
A recent study by the Plainview project of several police departments revealed that 24% of their officers posted violent or racist material online. That's almost a quarter. It isn't a few bad apples. It's a handful of crooks and the rest don't have the manhood to call out their corrupt colleagues
Rojava Free State wrote:so in a plutocracy like our own, they increasingly protect only certain people, like when the mayor of Baltimore gave the rioters "room to burn" in the poor West side, but then called in all forces when violence migrated into the business district
by Kowani » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:55 am
by Grinning Dragon » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 am
Kowani wrote:Your daily reminder that police have no duty to serve the public under US law.
by Kowani » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:04 am
I know. My point is that the entire system is built to incentivize these “bad apples.”
Police do however take an oath to support and defend the constitution.
by Drongonia » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:08 am
Crysuko wrote:oh woe is me, i'm relied upon to uphold the law and not make an ass of myself. Truly the burden is too much.
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by Rojava Free State » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:11 am
Petrolheadia wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops in a department.there's thugs who abuse the rights of civilians and the cowards who look the other way.
A recent study by the Plainview project of several police departments revealed that 24% of their officers posted violent or racist material online. That's almost a quarter. It isn't a few bad apples. It's a handful of crooks and the rest don't have the manhood to call out their corrupt colleagues
An important question is: what counts as "violent" and/or "racist"?Rojava Free State wrote:so in a plutocracy like our own, they increasingly protect only certain people, like when the mayor of Baltimore gave the rioters "room to burn" in the poor West side, but then called in all forces when violence migrated into the business district
This is a legitimate tactic if you don't have or don't want to jeopardise the resources for a full-on attack - dissipating the enemy's energy in a written-off territory.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:12 am
Drongonia wrote:Crysuko wrote:oh woe is me, i'm relied upon to uphold the law and not make an ass of myself. Truly the burden is too much.
This is the most steaming hot (pile of garbage) take I've heard in a while. The boys and girls in blue throughout the world have to see and put up with some of the most horrific shit you could imagine, short of serving in the armed forces. Car crashes, domestic abuse, murder scenes, rapes, pedophilia, the list goes on. Not to mention that most cops from what I've seen get paid peanuts at the junior ranks. Being a cop isn't just sitting around eating donuts all day beating minorities or some shit. Grow up.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Crysuko » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:07 am
Drongonia wrote:Crysuko wrote:oh woe is me, i'm relied upon to uphold the law and not make an ass of myself. Truly the burden is too much.
This is the most steaming hot (pile of garbage) take I've heard in a while. The boys and girls in blue throughout the world have to see and put up with some of the most horrific shit you could imagine, short of serving in the armed forces. Car crashes, domestic abuse, murder scenes, rapes, pedophilia, the list goes on. Not to mention that most cops from what I've seen get paid peanuts at the junior ranks. Being a cop isn't just sitting around eating donuts all day beating minorities or some shit. Grow up.
by Petrolheadia » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:55 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Petrolheadia wrote:An important question is: what counts as "violent" and/or "racist"?
This is a legitimate tactic if you don't have or don't want to jeopardise the resources for a full-on attack - dissipating the enemy's energy in a written-off territory.
"It's a good day for a chokehold" said the guy you trust with a gun and a badge.it's stuff like that. The officers involved are being investigated for these comments which were on their Facebook profiles. Police ought to be held to a higher standard than the public considering the job they do and yet we let them get away with so much shit. Things gotta change.
As for the second part, I didn't know letting part of your city burn down was a legit tactic.I think most would see it simply as the people in power saying "let's get out of here. Let them kill each other, fuck them"
by Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:05 pm
Petrolheadia wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
"It's a good day for a chokehold" said the guy you trust with a gun and a badge.it's stuff like that. The officers involved are being investigated for these comments which were on their Facebook profiles. Police ought to be held to a higher standard than the public considering the job they do and yet we let them get away with so much shit. Things gotta change.
As for the second part, I didn't know letting part of your city burn down was a legit tactic.I think most would see it simply as the people in power saying "let's get out of here. Let them kill each other, fuck them"
What's important is the context and intent of what is said.
Also, letting part of your city burn down is a legit tactic. See Napoleon's army in Moscow.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Gredda » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:08 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Crysuko wrote:it would seem a worrying amount of sociopaths are drawn to law enforcement
There wouldn't be so many in law enforcement if many police departments didn't have a revolving door policy, where an officer fired for misconduct from one can still get a job in another. There's also the blue wall of silence, where cops refuse to turn in troublemakers among their ranks.
by Chan Island » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:55 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Auze » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Petrolheadia wrote:What's important is the context and intent of what is said.
Also, letting part of your city burn down is a legit tactic. See Napoleon's army in Moscow.
Pretty sure the job of the police is to stop any part of the city from burning down. I have yet to see the fire department say "a house is burning down, let's just let the whole block burn and we'll defend the houses on the next street."
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