California loses right to set emissions standards.

[Neutraligon]

Umm, what?

Oh yeah, Batman REPLIED to me.

I don't see electric cars selling well, and going into the junkyard (electric cars are slower). I see the rise of the Black Market, and illegal car dealers who also sell crack with your gas cars.

Just because you do not see electic cars selling well does not mean they are not selling well https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10567 they are selling more and more. You say you see the rise of a black market, got any evidence of this? Like I said, you can still sell gas cars in California, and the used car market still exists there.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

1, but I didn't have to take it to pay for university, I chose to take it.

I'm guessing it wasn't at a pub.

No, that's where I spend most of my time while at university.

[Neutraligon]

Oh yeah, Batman REPLIED to me.

I don't see electric cars selling well, and going into the junkyard (electric cars are slower). I see the rise of the Black Market, and illegal car dealers who also sell crack with your gas cars.

It's a shame if it won't sell well because it's a chicken and egg problem. Why not much electric cars? No infrastructure? Why no infrastructure? Because there's not much electric cars.

Except that the infrastructure is slowly being built and more and more electric cars are being sold as the price drops. Right now electric cars are still pretty much a luxury item.

[Diarcesia]

A ban is stupid. At the same time it will be terrible for your local place to have everyone driving gas cars as a protest in the long term, sooner or later. Singapore is a small place, it doesn't ban cars, but it was made really expensive so that people who want cars can get them, but not too many of them such that their roads would be a gridlock-infested hellhole.

But that would still make a black market exist if it was done in America, because people like to buy cheap cars.

This only really makes sense if everyone wants to go to the black market for the express purpose of pissing off the government.

[Tornado Queendom]

Where's the evidence?!

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.

Oh, I have JUST the right video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRgTcO3g90

Because some people want to protest, and SOMEONE out there is gonna buy gas cars even if Electric is cheaper and more efficient. If BP dies, some "gas cartel" will replace it. I will be one of those people that'll pick the black market over Agenda 21

This post is a whole lot of stupid

People will do ANYTHING to protest, and buying gas cars would be a form of civil disobedience.

[Thermodolia]

A ban is stupid. At the same time it will be terrible for your local place to have everyone driving gas cars as a protest in the long term, sooner or later. Singapore is a small place, it doesn't ban cars, but it was made really expensive so that people who want cars can get them, but not too many of them such that their roads would be a gridlock-infested hellhole.

But that would still make a black market exist if it was done in America, because people like to buy cheap cars.

And again why would they buy gas vehicles is electric vehicles where the cheapest option

[Tornado Queendom]

It's a shame if it won't sell well because it's a chicken and egg problem. Why not much electric cars? No infrastructure? Why no infrastructure? Because there's not much electric cars.

Except that the infrastructure is slowly being built and more and more electric cars are being sold as the price drops. Right now electric cars are still pretty much a luxury item.

Even if electric cars beat Gas, Gas will still exist as long as there are people who dissent. They'll be like guns: the government is trying to steal them, while those who DO own them will be holding onto them for deal them.

[Neutraligon]

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.

Oh, I have JUST the right video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRgTcO3g90

This post is a whole lot of stupid

People will do ANYTHING to protest, and buying gas cars would be a form of civil disobedience.

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

[Tornado Queendom]

But that would still make a black market exist if it was done in America, because people like to buy cheap cars.

And again why would they buy gas vehicles is electric vehicles where the cheapest option

Likely to protest the government, because that would count as civil disobedience.

Remember this quote from Linus Tech Tips: "The cheapest thing on the market is almost NEVER a good value"

[Diarcesia]

Oh, I have JUST the right video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRgTcO3g90

People will do ANYTHING to protest, and buying gas cars would be a form of civil disobedience.

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

Slippery slope is invoked.

[Drongonia]

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.
This post is a whole lot of stupid

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/24/tesla ... d-quarter/

Tesla might not be around for much longer, they reported a $408m US loss in just one quarter. It seems like in the future, electric vehicles are going to be the domain of already established (mostly Japanese) manufacturers like Toyota, Nissan and Honda. Also, as long as traditional gasoline is available to consumers at a decent price, electric vehicles will count for a minute proportion of all sales.

[Diarcesia]

And again why would they buy gas vehicles is electric vehicles where the cheapest option

Likely to protest the government, because that would count as civil disobedience.

Remember this quote from Linus Tech Tips: "The cheapest thing on the market is almost NEVER a good value"

The majority of people don't have the spare change to buy a hypothetical more expensive gas car over a hypothetical cheaper electric car just so they can protest. What you'll see instead is protesters wielding placards demanding lower prices for gas vehicles. And then a new debate ensues in the context of the cultural norms of the time, obviously changed from the present.

[Tornado Queendom]

Oh, I have JUST the right video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRgTcO3g90

People will do ANYTHING to protest, and buying gas cars would be a form of civil disobedience.

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

I still see people buying gas, even IF they're not banned. There are people who prefer their gas cars, like me. They will NEVER switch to electric, no matter how much you try.

If you want to know what it's like, there are still a few people in this world that use WINDOWS XP as their daily driver.

[The Black Forrest]

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.

Oh, I have JUST the right video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRgTcO3g90

This post is a whole lot of stupid

People will do ANYTHING to protest, and buying gas cars would be a form of civil disobedience.

I want to protest this post!

[Drongonia]

Also here's a post from the LA Times (a generally left-leaning pro-green publication) about how electric car sales in California are rising, but are still... meh, at best.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ ... rnia-tesla

Pure electric cars still total only 5.5% of California car sales. Consumers, for the most part, are shrugging at EV offerings from car companies not named Tesla. And Tesla sales could be topping out. “California is the largest green market in the country,” said Jessica Caldwell, market analyst at Edmunds. The state accounts for nearly half of the 105,472 pure EVs sold nationwide. “But EVs are still a tough market, even in California.” Dealers sold nearly 950,000 new automobiles statewide in the first six months of 2019, according to the California New Car Dealers Assn. About 13% of them were “electrified” in some form — pure EV, hybrid or plug-in hybrid.

[Neutraligon]

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.
This post is a whole lot of stupid

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/24/tesla ... d-quarter/

Tesla might not be around for much longer, they reported a $408m US loss in just one quarter. It seems like in the future, electric vehicles are going to be the domain of already established (mostly Japanese) manufacturers like Toyota, Nissan and Honda. Also, as long as traditional gasoline is available to consumers at a decent price, electric vehicles will count for a minute proportion of all sales.

Not necessarily, for one thing, the prices of electric cars are coming down, as they get closer and closer to the price of gas cars they begin to become more likely to be bought as they have other advantages, namely that they are less likely to break down due to fewer moving parts and systems (No need for an exhaust system), which means maintenance is cheaper in addition to not having to pay for gas.

[Thermodolia]

Except that the infrastructure is slowly being built and more and more electric cars are being sold as the price drops. Right now electric cars are still pretty much a luxury item.

Even if electric cars beat Gas, Gas will still exist as long as there are people who dissent. They'll be like guns: the government is trying to steal them, while those who DO own them will be holding onto them for deal them.

Those things are literally not equivalent at all. Nobody is going to buy a gas powered car when a electric vehicle costs a lot less. If an electric vehicle can go 600 miles per charge you’d be making less stops than a gas powered car. Why would you not want that?

[Diarcesia]

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

I still see people buying gas, even IF they're not banned. There are people who prefer their gas cars, like me. They will NEVER switch to electric, no matter how much you try.

If you want to know what it's like, there are still a few people in this world that use WINDOWS XP as their daily driver.

Windows XP has a ~3% market share. I can see specialist stores catering to them. The rest would buy their car at the mainstream electric car dealership.

Edit: Added source

[Neutraligon]

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

I still see people buying gas, even IF they're not banned. There are people who prefer their gas cars, like me. They will NEVER switch to electric, no matter how much you try.

If you want to know what it's like, there are still a few people in this world that use WINDOWS XP as their daily driver.

Correct people are still buying gas, because right now electric cars are still luxury cars.

[Tornado Queendom]

Likely to protest the government, because that would count as civil disobedience.

Remember this quote from Linus Tech Tips: "The cheapest thing on the market is almost NEVER a good value"

The majority of people don't have the spare change to buy a hypothetical more expensive gas car over a hypothetical cheaper electric car just so they can protest. What you'll see instead is protesters wielding placards demanding lower prices for gas vehicles. And then a new debate ensues in the context of the cultural norms of the time, obviously changed from the present.

Yeah, I see where this is going. Eventually, Free Gas Cars and "Unlimited Free Refills" for Gas for everyone will be rising if this keeps going.

Gas cars will be seen as a sign of wealth, and electric as a sign of poorness.

[Thermodolia]

And again why would they buy gas vehicles is electric vehicles where the cheapest option

Likely to protest the government, because that would count as civil disobedience.

Remember this quote from Linus Tech Tips: "The cheapest thing on the market is almost NEVER a good value"

But gas cars wouldn’t be illegal so it wouldn’t be civil disobedience. Just plain stubbornness

[Tornado Queendom]

I still see people buying gas, even IF they're not banned. There are people who prefer their gas cars, like me. They will NEVER switch to electric, no matter how much you try.

If you want to know what it's like, there are still a few people in this world that use WINDOWS XP as their daily driver.

Correct people are still buying gas, because right now electric cars are still luxury cars.

I also mean in the future, because there are still people using WINDOWS XP even when support ended FIVE YEARS AGO.

You'll take my gas cars when you pry them from my cold dead hands!

[Thermodolia]

No it would not be an act of civil disobedience because guess what, it is not illegal to buy gas cars.

I still see people buying gas, even IF they're not banned. There are people who prefer their gas cars, like me. They will NEVER switch to electric, no matter how much you try.

If you want to know what it's like, there are still a few people in this world that use WINDOWS XP as their daily driver.

If electric cars where cheap I’d buy one. Do you realize how much money I’d save on gas?

[Tornado Queendom]

Let’s see there’s Tesla and the ever falling prices. And the fact that more and more manufacturers are making more electric vehicles.
This post is a whole lot of stupid

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/24/tesla ... d-quarter/

Tesla might not be around for much longer, they reported a $408m US loss in just one quarter. It seems like in the future, electric vehicles are going to be the domain of already established (mostly Japanese) manufacturers like Toyota, Nissan and Honda. Also, as long as traditional gasoline is available to consumers at a decent price, electric vehicles will count for a minute proportion of all sales.

I agree with you, because Electric will NEVER take over. At least, not until the day Gas becomes so costly due to inflation that electric becomes popular. That is, if Electric doesn't inflate in price but gas does.

[The Black Forrest]

Trump is corrupted by big oil he has to go for humanity's survival it's not optional.

Trump was corrupted long before. He is far to simple minded...ignorant?....to even worry about it.

He probably has Maralago majorly insured so he won’t care if it’s below water.