by First American Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:03 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:07 am
by Galloism » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:13 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's not a paradox at all because it's sophistry. It's not asking a real question.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:14 am
Galloism wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's not a paradox at all because it's sophistry. It's not asking a real question.
Well, more to the point it’s a nonsensical question.
It’s premised on the notion that there’s something an omnipotent being cannot do, and so if the being is omnipotent, there’s nothing it cannot do, so asking if it can do something that requires it to be limited is nonsensical.
Could an omnipotent being create a rock the size of earth and lift it? Sure.
The size of the sun? Sure.
The size of the Milky Way? Well, it’s a black hole now, but sure.
The size of the universe? Sure.
The size of ten universes?
Fifty?
A hundred?
A million?
Sure. An omnipotent being can make a rock of literally any size. But there’s no such thing as a rock it can’t lift.
by Grenartia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:17 am
First American Empire wrote:I, personally, am of the opinion that an omnipotent being could create a rock too heavy to lift."Omnipotence", by definition, means one is able to do anything, and "anything" includes giving up one's own omnipotence. To use a forum analogy, it would be like an admin having the power to ban themself. It makes no sense to do it, but it is still theoretically possible.
by Risottia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:17 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's not a paradox at all because it's sophistry. It's not asking a real question.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:19 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:19 am
by Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:21 am
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:27 am
by -Ocelot- » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:27 am
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:28 am
-Ocelot- wrote:It's a paradox because it's based on a false assumption; the assumption that an omnipotent being can exist. So I guess the answer is no because there can't be an omnipotent being in the first place.
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:29 am
by Lost Memories » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:29 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:29 am
-Ocelot- wrote:It's a paradox because it's based on a false assumption; the assumption that an omnipotent being can exist. So I guess the answer is no because there can't be an omnipotent being in the first place.
by Pacomia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:32 am
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:34 am
by Kowani » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:35 am
Lord Dominator wrote:Personally I prefer the answer that you're presuming an omnipotent being is bound by logic.
Or, they can create a rock they can't lift and the lift it anyways
by First American Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:36 am
by First American Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:38 am
-Ocelot- wrote:It's a paradox because it's based on a false assumption; the assumption that an omnipotent being can exist. So I guess the answer is no because there can't be an omnipotent being in the first place.
by Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:38 am
by Kowani » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:39 am
by The V O I D » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:39 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:-Ocelot- wrote:It's a paradox because it's based on a false assumption; the assumption that an omnipotent being can exist. So I guess the answer is no because there can't be an omnipotent being in the first place.
No, it's based on the false assumption that there is a value higher than infinite value.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:40 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:41 am
First American Empire wrote:-Ocelot- wrote:It's a paradox because it's based on a false assumption; the assumption that an omnipotent being can exist. So I guess the answer is no because there can't be an omnipotent being in the first place.
I don't believe in an omnipotent being either. (My religion's Gods aren't omnipotent.) Treat this as a thought experiment for if an omnipotent being did exist.
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