NATION

PASSWORD

SF declares NRA a terrorist organization

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Will the more moderate leftists ever awaken to the insidious, authoritarian group among them?

Yes, in time.
74
16%
No, they are too established in their views, and don't care enough.
187
40%
Unsure.
60
13%
No, because no one's trying to take away guns!
86
18%
Yes, and they will come around to agree with the far left in that guns should be banned!
66
14%
 
Total votes : 473

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

SF declares NRA a terrorist organization

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:04 pm

San Francisco law makers have recently declared the NRA a terrorist organization, how far do you think the radical left will go to disarm Americans? What should be done about these fascistic policies that the new left is forcing upon us? Walmart is asking people not to follow their state law in states with open, or concealed carry, demanding that consumers stop bringing firearms into their stores, despite their complete failing to stop a mass shooting in one of their stores, and the fact that gun free zones are often targets for mass shooters. Many among the more moderate left continue to claim that the democrats aren't trying to disarm Americans, but when will they see that is exactly what the radical leftists want, and are pushing through, step by step at a time? Will they only see the truth when confiscation begins, or is their something we can do now to open their eyes to reality?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H1ZSnr9aZo

https://thewriterinblack.com/2017/05/17 ... ur-guns-2/
Last edited by Medwind on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 133353
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:09 pm

Pretty funny.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Banter For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Snark That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Sarcasm
He/Him

Dangerous this Jack o' Hearts.
With his kiss
the riot
starts

User avatar
Redternetia
Secretary
 
Posts: 30
Founded: Aug 16, 2019
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Redternetia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:10 pm

The "Far Left" doesn't want to take away guns. As a "far-leftist" myself, I advocate for arming all working people. San Francisco isn't a leftwing city of any sort. It's an American capitalist city, just like any other American city like Columbus, NYC, or Carson, except SF has a lot more gentrification going on (you know, what literally pushes poor people out of the city).

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:14 pm

Redternetia wrote:The "Far Left" doesn't want to take away guns. As a "far-leftist" myself, I advocate for arming all working people. San Francisco isn't a leftwing city of any sort. It's an American capitalist city, just like any other American city like Columbus, NYC, or Carson, except SF has a lot more gentrification going on (you know, what literally pushes poor people out of the city).


I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Obviously I'm not talking about communists, or foreigners, or whatever it is you're referring too. (also you don't speak for all "far leftists" buddy) I'm referencing a specific brand of american leftism that has been steadily growing over the years.


Ifreann wrote:Pretty funny.


If you say so. XD

User avatar
Catsfern
Envoy
 
Posts: 297
Founded: Mar 09, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Catsfern » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:16 pm

this is a court battle waiting to happen.
I use NS stats that applies to everyone no exceptions, for details telegram me or don't and NO we are not a nation of cats
WIP wiki here https://catsfern.fandom.com/wiki/Catsfern_WikiWIKI ALWAYS UPDATING!Most recent page: Map and States
ASK ME ANYTHING HERE https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=23&t=472606
100 COPIES OF MY OWN NATIONS CARD! https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=240
Catsfernian Newspaper! (new edition every Monday / edition 8 out now) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15CywWf8K6aSGbr63zhtnrIHsl4Y3X-mLVO2xOiUemro/edit?usp=sharing
My thoughts on NS stats https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1255156

User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63261
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Medwind wrote:
Redternetia wrote:The "Far Left" doesn't want to take away guns. As a "far-leftist" myself, I advocate for arming all working people. San Francisco isn't a leftwing city of any sort. It's an American capitalist city, just like any other American city like Columbus, NYC, or Carson, except SF has a lot more gentrification going on (you know, what literally pushes poor people out of the city).


I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Obviously I'm not talking about communists, or foreigners, or whatever it is you're referring too. (also you don't speak for all "far leftists" buddy) I'm referencing a specific brand of american leftism that has been steadily growing over the years.


Ifreann wrote:Pretty funny.


If you say so. XD

People keep speaking about a far left yet I've yet to see a far left in the US honestly.
General Sherman did nothing wrong, fact.
Liberal Social Democrat.

Proud denouncer of the Taliban.

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97564
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Ifreann wrote:Pretty funny.

Agreed
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Medwind wrote:
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Obviously I'm not talking about communists, or foreigners, or whatever it is you're referring too. (also you don't speak for all "far leftists" buddy) I'm referencing a specific brand of american leftism that has been steadily growing over the years.




If you say so. XD

People keep speaking about a far left yet I've yet to see a far left in the US honestly.



It may not be a "far left" to *foreigners* but by *US* standards their definitely is. EVERY country has a "far left" it doesn't mean that they all agree on the same things, or are a united ideology, they are just those leftists who are on the far end of the spectrum BY THAT COUNTRIES STANDARDS. That's what I mean when I speak of "the far left in the US." I don't know why this is so confusing.
Last edited by Medwind on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:28 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 133353
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:32 pm

Medwind wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pretty funny.


If you say so. XD

It's as if they're trolling the right.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Banter For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Snark That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Sarcasm
He/Him

Dangerous this Jack o' Hearts.
With his kiss
the riot
starts

User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63261
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:33 pm

Medwind wrote:
Genivaria wrote:People keep speaking about a far left yet I've yet to see a far left in the US honestly.



It may not be a "far left" to *foreigners* but by *US* standards their definitely is. EVERY country has a "far left" it doesn't mean that they all agree on the same things, or are a united ideology, they are just those leftists who are on the far end of the spectrum BY THAT COUNTRIES STANDARDS. That's what I mean when I speak of "the far left in the US." I don't know why this is so confusing.

Yes but in America 'far left' basically means "guys maybe people shouldn't go bankrupt from not having health insurance."
General Sherman did nothing wrong, fact.
Liberal Social Democrat.

Proud denouncer of the Taliban.

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:36 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Medwind wrote:

It may not be a "far left" to *foreigners* but by *US* standards their definitely is. EVERY country has a "far left" it doesn't mean that they all agree on the same things, or are a united ideology, they are just those leftists who are on the far end of the spectrum BY THAT COUNTRIES STANDARDS. That's what I mean when I speak of "the far left in the US." I don't know why this is so confusing.

Yes but in America 'far left' basically means "guys maybe people shouldn't go bankrupt from not having health insurance."

Not quite, that's about moderate left bruh.

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97564
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:36 pm

Here is a biased in the other direction source, but I think it actually better frames what the resolution that was passed does.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... anization/
Last edited by Ethel mermania on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97564
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Medwind wrote:
If you say so. XD

It's as if they're trolling the right.


The NRA has to respond. In effect if not wording. New jersey is trying to do something similar.
Last edited by Ethel mermania on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Conservative New America
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 13
Founded: Jun 28, 2019
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Conservative New America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:38 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Medwind wrote:

It may not be a "far left" to *foreigners* but by *US* standards their definitely is. EVERY country has a "far left" it doesn't mean that they all agree on the same things, or are a united ideology, they are just those leftists who are on the far end of the spectrum BY THAT COUNTRIES STANDARDS. That's what I mean when I speak of "the far left in the US." I don't know why this is so confusing.

Yes but in America 'far left' basically means "guys maybe people shouldn't go bankrupt from not having health insurance."


That's about as gross of an oversimplification as considering the NRA a terrorist organization.

If it actually were it'd make Hamas look like a UN delegation.

User avatar
Redternetia
Secretary
 
Posts: 30
Founded: Aug 16, 2019
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Redternetia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:39 pm

Medwind wrote:
Redternetia wrote:The "Far Left" doesn't want to take away guns. As a "far-leftist" myself, I advocate for arming all working people. San Francisco isn't a leftwing city of any sort. It's an American capitalist city, just like any other American city like Columbus, NYC, or Carson, except SF has a lot more gentrification going on (you know, what literally pushes poor people out of the city).


I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Obviously I'm not talking about communists, or foreigners, or whatever it is you're referring too. (also you don't speak for all "far leftists" buddy) I'm referencing a specific brand of american leftism that has been steadily growing over the years.


What semantics? The actual far-left (both anarchist and Marxist) do not want to disarm the working people, but quite the opposite. This is pretty grounded stuff in most of both tendencies theory. That American "socialism" you are referring too, which I assume is stuff like the DSA, is nothing more than social democracy. An ideology that supports the maintenance of capitalism via welfare programs ... i.e. concessions to the working class.
Last edited by Redternetia on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Nova Cyberia
Senator
 
Posts: 4456
Founded: May 06, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Lol

The only terrorist organization that doesn't actually engage in any terrorism.

San Francisco is a feces-infested joke.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
##############
American Nationalist
Third Positionist Gang

User avatar
Galloism
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60980
Founded: Aug 20, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:Lol

The only terrorist organization that doesn't actually engage in any terrorism.

San Francisco is a feces-infested joke.

Actually, the Russians and Chinese already have designated several of those.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


User avatar
Major-Tom
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9365
Founded: Mar 09, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:42 pm

I mean, conservatives in the US go around labeling every small, broad left-wing group as terroristic, so if SF wants to label an organization that facilitates and is complicit in large-scale gun violence as a dangerous group, so be it.

It's more intellectually honest then saying some asinine, truly moronic shit like "SPLC are terrorists" or my personal favorite "ANTIFA = Fascists!"
White Trash Hipster- Overly Proud Arizonan - Swimmer - Hiker - Powered by Caffeine and Nicotine
Who is Tom?
Other Pertinent Factbooks
Pro: Social Democracy, Market Socialism, Labour Unions, Progressivism, Civic Nationalism, Environmentalism, Left-Populism, Civil Liberties.

User avatar
Mexican Liberation
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1850
Founded: May 18, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Mexican Liberation » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:43 pm

tbh surprised something like this didn't happen sooner, as in right after it was made known the NRA was a Russian mouthpiece.

Not to mention the fearmongering, the NRA literally stops short of advocating genocide in a weird self-defense jerkoff fantasy, always bringing up "they" whoever the hell "they" is supposed to mean.
Libertarian Socialism
I don't RP but if you're curious: cyberpunk New Spain, or steampunk or fantasy, depends on the mood

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41675
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:44 pm

Not shocking. I saw some polling the other day that a third of Dem leaning voters support criminalizing membership in the NRA.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 133353
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:44 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not shocking. I saw some polling the other day that a third of Dem leaning voters support criminalizing membership in the NRA.

Maddest bantz.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Banter For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Snark That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Sarcasm
He/Him

Dangerous this Jack o' Hearts.
With his kiss
the riot
starts

User avatar
Gagium
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1217
Founded: Apr 08, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gagium » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:47 pm

:blink:
Mexican Liberation wrote:whoever the hell "they" is supposed to mean.

Probably the people designating them a terrorist group for literally advocating for constitutional rights...
E

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:48 pm

Redternetia wrote:
Medwind wrote:
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Obviously I'm not talking about communists, or foreigners, or whatever it is you're referring too. (also you don't speak for all "far leftists" buddy) I'm referencing a specific brand of american leftism that has been steadily growing over the years.


What semantics? The actual far-left (both anarchist and Marxist) do not want to disarm the working people, but quite the opposite. This is pretty grounded stuff in both tendencies theory. That American "socialism" you are referring too, which I assume is stuff like the DSA, is nothing more than social democracy which supports the maintenance of capitalism.


Here we goooo! *rubs hands* semantics arguments, gotta love em! Refer to my previous post for what I meant by "far left" I wasn't speaking of your personal brand of communism m8. Anyway, was Stalin not far left by your standards? Only people who are far left to you are Marxists and Anarchists, because those are the ones who follow a somewhat similar viewpoint as you? Is Stalinism not far left? Lol, I suppose not. What do you call them then, when referring to their position on the political spectrum? Finally *PLEASE* read 2nd to last post, as that should clear things up for you.
Last edited by Medwind on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Medwind
Diplomat
 
Posts: 605
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Medwind » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not shocking. I saw some polling the other day that a third of Dem leaning voters support criminalizing membership in the NRA.

Yes I have also seen this poll, it was from a verified and trustworthy source.

User avatar
Aureumterra
Senator
 
Posts: 3897
Founded: Oct 25, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Aureumterra » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Medwind wrote:
If you say so. XD

It's as if they're trolling the right.

By declaring the NRA a terrorist group? And not Proud Boys?
♔-Put this in your sig if you’re a Monarchy/Empire
Global Politics Roleplay!
Pro: Trump, MAGA, Capitalism, Gender Equality, MAGA 2020
Anti: Democrats, 3rd wave feminism, Racism, Socialism, ANTIFA
Icelandic Nationalist and proud
I’m your average Íslandic NS player (yes, I live in Ísland, and it’s NOT called Iceland)
I DO NOT USE NS STATS!
A 12 civilization, according to this index.
Kragholm Free States wrote:oooh daddy hitler I've been a naughty little untermensch gas me harder

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Abserdia, American Pere Housh, Ameriganastan, Auzkhia, Costa Fierro, Empire of Ur, Emulation White, Ethel mermania, Gagium, Galloism, Geneviev, Ghost Land, Google [Bot], Grinning Dragon, Infected Mushroom, Klorgia1, Liriena, Luziyca, MSN [Bot], Nakena, Necroghastia, New haven america, Ostroeuropa, Plzen, Quott, Samudera Darussalam, SD_Film Artists, Seythennia, Sino-Mehxicolan, Sovaal, Sundiata, Teachian, The Greater Ohio Valley, The Lune, The New California Republic, The South Falls, The West Valley Mountains, Vaeruio, Voless, Xuloqoia, Zixu

Advertisement

Remove ads