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It absolutely bloody well is..

..X, any idiot knows that.
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..Cross, if the maker says it duh!
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..tis a silly debate
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X or Cross..

Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:39 pm

So the intarwebs have been all of a flutter over Playstation joypads, when someone dared to ask the seemingly innocent question of whether you call the lower button X or Cross?

On the one hand..

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Yet on the other..

PlayStation UK

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Triangle
Circle
Cross
Square

If Cross is called X (it's not), then what are you calling Circle? :eyebrow:


However, one pertinent point is..

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I've always said X because, hey, screw the man and their "rules", but my opinion is naught against the great mass that is NSG wisdom, a mass so great it moves at the speed of light.

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Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:43 pm

I've never called that button "cross," but I can see where they're coming from. Cross-country is abbreviated with an "x," and Railroad Crossings are abbreviated "RxR"

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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 pm

Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 pm

No Hasselhoff in the poll? Booo.

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Never crossed my mind, sorry. ;)

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For the OP, I would say context-dependent. I will say "x" if it is a letter, but if it is used for "WRONG!", then I will say "cross".
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Postby Heloin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Zessmas.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

I guess it makes sense to call it cross when they're all symbols. OTOH, on controllers where the buttons are letters, the same symbol should be considered to be X.
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Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Heloin wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Zessmas.

/ksmas/
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Mastodon wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:49 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mastodon wrote:
No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...

When Xbox One first came out, it was called XBONE... And I thought "What the fuck is a X-Bone?!"

.... Crossboxes.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:49 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.
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Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:50 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mastodon wrote:
No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...


True, but it's meant to represent the symbol of two bones crossed in an "X"

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Postby Heloin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.

That'd be ↑mas depending on what games you played first.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.

doubtmas.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 pm

Valentine Z wrote:No Hasselhoff in the poll? Booo.


You're not the boss of me!

Heloin wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Jumpmas.

That'd be ↑mas depending on what games you played first.


This is a problem unique to Playstation because..

The scrap is a rare event in the world of video games as console manufacturers usually name buttons after numbers, unambiguous letters of the alphabet or colours. The groundbreaking Nintendo Entertainment System pad, for example, went with A, B, while the SNES added X and Y (a configuration also used by Sega and Microsoft), and in this context, it’s clear that “X” is X.

The only other major console controller to utilise symbols was the disastrous Apple Bandai Pippen, which featured raised dots on its four main buttons as well as a sequence of buttons on the front of the pad, which in turn featured three shapes: “square”, “circle” and “diamond”. There was little controversy over what to call any of these buttons, however, because a), Apple avoided the contentious “X” symbol and b), no one bought an Apple Bandai Pippin.


I'd never even heard of the Apple Bandai Pippin..
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:20 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


Kaimas.

And to people who say that a cross cannot be X-shaped: St Andrew is spinning in his grave.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


Kaimas.

And to people who say that a cross cannot be X-shaped: St Andrew is spinning in his grave.


Sounds like he's a bit cross...

Anyway, X will always be pronounced X, as in X-ray.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:34 pm

I’ve been calling it the “X” button for over 20 years since the PS1 days, so “X” it shall remain.
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Postby Prydania » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:36 pm

The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 pm

Prydania wrote:The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P


Says someone with an x-shaped cross in their flag.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Prydania wrote:The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P


Says someone with an x-shaped cross in their flag.


You mean a cross-shaped X..
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I call it a d-pad, thats simply how I was raised to call it. Call me a nerd or weirdo, but that how it was for me.
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It's X. I don't give a shit what some dude from Sony says, 99.9999% of players call it x, so it's fucking x. Language is defined by consensus, people don't own words, one person doesn't get to say "AKSHUALLY..." regardless of their position.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:12 am

Page wrote:It's X. I don't give a shit what some dude from Sony says, 99.9999% of players call it x, so it's fucking x. Language is defined by consensus, people don't own words, one person doesn't get to say "AKSHUALLY..." regardless of their position.


So you're saying that a Japanese company doesn't get to base its terminology on the Japanese language?
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